[_ Old Earth _] PROOF of a world wide flood CHALLENGE!

[John]

I'm beginning to wonder if we'll ever find out how a worldwide flood had time to put a desert in the middle of flood deposits.

Sand is a form of sediment, how is it a problem to have sand during the flood?

 

[Crying Rock]

Oldest Surface on Earth Discovered by Robert Roy Britt
May 5, 2009:

http://www.livescience.com/environment/ ... earth.html

Matmon, A., O. Simhai, R. Amit, I. Havi, N. Porat, E.
McDonald, L. Benedetti, and R. Finkel, 2009, Desert
pavement–coated surfaces in extreme deserts present
the longest-lived landforms on Earth. Geological
Society of America Bulletin. vol. 121, no. 5-6,
pp. 688-697:

http://bulletin.geoscienceworld.org/cgi ... 21/5-6/688

 

[John]

Yeah but that guy is ignorant of the flood, the dating methods are flawed.

 

[Barbarian]

Sand is a form of sediment, how is it a problem to have sand during the flood?

The shape of sand grains formed underwater is different than that of desert sand grains. The angle of repose in cross-bedding is different, and you don't find fossil burrows, desert plants and remains of insect nests in sand that formed underwater.

 

[John]

The shape of sand grains formed underwater is different than that of desert sand grains. The angle of repose in cross-bedding is different, and you don't find fossil burrows, desert plants and remains of insect nests in sand that formed underwater.

Who said the sand formed under water? There was deserts before the flood and they got buried by other sediment.

The flood even managed to preserve soft bodied animals like jelly fish.

On the other hand you could be right. The desert formed after the flood on top on flood deposited sediments then some event buried them later on. After Mt. St. Heleans blew it buried forests and lakes and created many layers of sediment, if there was a small desert there it would have been buried. We cannot be sure of remote events in the past, however we do know for sure that this world was covered in water at some point.

 

[lordkalvan]

[...The flood even managed to preserve soft bodied animals like jelly fish....

Er, that would be a flood. Perhaps one of the most convincing pieces of evidence against a global flood is the occurrence of fossil crinoids. These animals are so delicate that anything except very rapid burial and smothering will result in their bodies breaking up. As rapid burial and smothering is touted by YECs as both the way in which fossilization occurs and evidence that a rapid burying and smothering event such as the biblical flood must have happened for all those fossils to have been formed in the first place, the expectation would be that most fossil crinoids that we find would be pretty much whole animals; the contrary is the case, however, and most such remains are found in particular bedding planes or quite localized lenses, suggestive of an isolated burial event. By far most fossil crinoids comprise only fragments of the animals, which suggests the process of fossilization was by no means rapid. Crinoids are so prevalent in limestone deposits such as those found in the Burlington Limestone of the Mississippi Valley (around 15,000 per cubic metre, giving an estimate of anything from 10^13 to 10^16 in this formation alone), that if fossil crinoids are the result of the biblical flood, then the pre-flood world must have been formed mostly of crinoids (the largest fossil crinoid had a stem 40m long, although considerably less than a metre, including arms is more typical).