Salvation by Faith Alone?

[glorydaz]

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Besides...you don't even believe in eternal life since you claim we can lose our salvation, so why are you making such a big deal about someone doing good deed to gain eternal life. .

Sorry, but that doesn't make sense.

Just because he believes that salvation can be lost you can't assume he doesn't believe in eternal life.

Jesus made a big deal about doing good deeds.

Why did he do that?

Jesus made a big deal about love. Every good deed is based on it.
The fruit of the Spirit is LOVE....The Holy Spirit produces fruit in the life of the believer. Do we produce the fruit in our own strength? If we could then we wouldn't have needed Jesus to die on the cross.

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

If we fail to let Christ live through us, we frustrate the grace of God. What is impossible for man is possible with God. The deeds we do in the flesh are not the righteous deeds of God...although men may claim otherwise. I know some athiests who give to the poor and do many good deeds..they do not come from a pure heart...they can't because the righteousness of man is as filthy rags to God. I realize men don't like to hear that, but it's the truth nonetheless. It's only His work through us that will find favor with God.

For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It says right here...whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
If it's only "eternal" until you lose it, it isn't really eternal, is it?

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

 

[glorydaz]

JAMES 2:14-26
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? ... faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds. Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do ... As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

so, faith is meaningless if you dont show it with your actions. and actions would include things like "loving your enemy" and "give everything you own to the poor if you want to follow" jesus.

You notice James says, "claims to have faith". He is speaking to the hypocrites who show by their actions that they do not really have faith. I'm glad you brought this verse forward. It's a perfect example of good deeds being the effect of faith. Not the cause of salvation but the effect. We will know them by their fruit. We are ordained to walk in good deeds when we are saved. We aren't saved by our deeds but we will manifest the fruit of the Spirit once we have been given a new heart of flesh instead of stone. Cause and effect. The cart comes before the horse.

 

[doubting thomas]

JAMES 2:14-26
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? ... faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds. Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do ... As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

so, faith is meaningless if you dont show it with your actions. and actions would include things like "loving your enemy" and "give everything you own to the poor if you want to follow" jesus.

You notice James says, "claims to have faith". He is speaking to the hypocrites who show by their actions that they do not really have faith. I'm glad you brought this verse forward. It's a perfect example of good deeds being the effect of faith. Not the cause of salvation but the effect. We will know them by their fruit. We are ordained to walk in good deeds when we are saved. We aren't saved by our deeds but we will manifest the fruit of the Spirit once we have been given a new heart of flesh instead of stone. Cause and effect. The cart comes before the horse.

right. but the inverse is also true. faith and deeds presuppose one another. the product of true faith is ones deeds, but the testament of one's faith is illustrated in one's actions. this is why i first quoted 1corinthains 13:13, 1john 3:18 and galatians 5:22-23. we can assume that those without demonstrable charity, who love in tongue alone, and who do not act with joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness and self-control are not people of faith. thus mark 7:6 -- if you really have faith in jesus, you'll have the deeds to prove it. you aren't saved by your deeds, but you will be denied by your lack thereof. the question is not "do you believe?" -- it's "show me you believe" (did you heed, for example, matthew 25:33-40 or luke 18:22)

 

[glorydaz]

[quote="doubting thomas":30ycp3l8]
JAMES 2:14-26
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? ... faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds. Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do ... As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

so, faith is meaningless if you dont show it with your actions. and actions would include things like "loving your enemy" and "give everything you own to the poor if you want to follow" jesus.

You notice James says, "claims to have faith". He is speaking to the hypocrites who show by their actions that they do not really have faith. I'm glad you brought this verse forward. It's a perfect example of good deeds being the effect of faith. Not the cause of salvation but the effect. We will know them by their fruit. We are ordained to walk in good deeds when we are saved. We aren't saved by our deeds but we will manifest the fruit of the Spirit once we have been given a new heart of flesh instead of stone. Cause and effect. The cart comes before the horse.

right. but the inverse is also true. faith and deeds presuppose one another. the product of true faith is ones deeds, but the testament of one's faith is illustrated in one's actions. this is why i first quoted 1corinthains 13:13, 1john 3:18 and galatians 5:22-23. we can assume that those without demonstrable charity, who love in tongue alone, and who do not act with joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness and self-control are not people of faith. thus mark 7:6 -- if you really have faith in jesus, you'll have the deeds to prove it. you aren't saved by your deeds, but you will be denied by your lack thereof. the question is not "do you believe?" -- it's "show me you believe" (did you heed, for example, matthew 25:33-40 or luke 18:22)[/quote:30ycp3l8]
Thus we will know them by their fruit. It's the cause and effect I was talking about. We are saved, given a new heart, filled with the Spirit, and the fruit of the Spirit will follow...it has been ordained by God that we will show forth good deeds.

I'd also like to point out that when we go before the Lord, in our own strength or flesh, any good deeds we do will not be acceptable to the Lord. That is the "righteousness of man" that the Lord sees as filthy rags. I know, because when I was first saved, I'd purpose in my heart to go "help" someone. God was able to see into my heart and the hidden selfish motives I'd harbored..."aren't I special?" Something always went wrong when I did that. God may know that person needs to change in some way that I couldn't see, and my "helping" only frustrated God's plan. We must always wait on the Lord to move us in the direction He wants us to go...we are such a presumptuous being. Ever thinking we can or should be doing something the Lord isn't doing. When He prompts, we move....when He whoa's, we stop. That's why we can't be saved by good works...they are and should be His. We but do our duty and obey.

 

[Rick W]

What an outrageous request. I am, frankly, surprised that the moderators put up with this.

I'm surprised they put up with you calling people liars. :yes

Yeah, it's the responsibility of the staff that professing Christians behave themselves befitting a Christian.

We've tried to keep discussions civil but nothing seems to help, it's right back to same 'ol, same 'ol.
What would the objective reader think of the bickering, insult and mud-slinging?
I don't understand why it's so difficult to demonstrate restraint concerning what one thinks of another. But I suppose chalking up a "win" trumps all.

 

[chestertonrules]

It says right here...whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
If it's only "eternal" until you lose it, it isn't really eternal, is it?

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

We must believe, but belief alone is insufficient. Even demons believe. Even Satan believes.

Matthew 6:14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

Romans 2:6-7 "For He will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life."

Matt 25
45“He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.â€


John 14:15 If you love me, you will obey what I command.

John 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.

1 John 2:3
By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.

Acts 26:20
First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.

 

[glorydaz]

It says right here...whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
If it's only "eternal" until you lose it, it isn't really eternal, is it?

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

We must believe, but belief alone is insufficient. Even demons believe. Even Satan believes.

Belief alone is sufficient...and since God sees into the heart of men (and demons), he can judge whether one believes or not. :yes

I would hope most people understand the difference between believing unto salvation and how demons believe. Paul describes the difference here....the Jews had zeal, but went about to establish their own righteousness...not submitting themselves to the righteousness of God. Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believes. God sees our heart...with the heart man believes God has raised Christ from the dead, and we confess Him with our mouth.

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 

[chestertonrules]

[ The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

[/quote]

Dead faith will not save you. Sin can destroy your faith. Salvation is not a one time event.

1 Cor 9:27
No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

Note that this is an ongoing process, not an event:

Romans 8:13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Gal 6
8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.

Romans 11
22Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

 

[Drew]

Salvation is not a one time event.

Indeed.

There are many texts where Paul clearly says that believing Christians are being saved. I wonder what gd and others do with such text. Perhaps the same thing they do with Romans 2:6-7.

How about this one?

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Now let's be clear - those who claim that "you're saved at the moment you believe and that's it" are really not taking Paul seriously in the details. If they were taking Paul seriously, they would accept that salvation is indeed a process.

 

[glorydaz]

[ The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Dead faith will not save you. Sin can destroy your faith. Salvation is not a one time event.

1 Cor 9:27
No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

Note that this is an ongoing process, not an event:

Romans 8:13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Gal 6
8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.

Romans 11
22Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

You're correct...dead faith will not save us.
Dead faith is what the hypocrites have...that is not the faith that saves.

It's a good thing our salvation isn't contingent on our faith , isn't it? We live by the faith of Jesus Christ who lives in those of us who have been born of the Spirit.

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Sin can certainly affect our faith, but we'd be in a world of hurt if our salvation depended on our "not sinning." "For all men sin and come short of the glory of God." "Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." And blessed are we who are saved by the faith of Jesus Christ and don't have to worry about our own feeble efforts to keep the faith.

Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. What isn't possible with man is possible with God.

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

We can be confident "he which hath begun a good work in us, we will perform".

Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Salvation is a one-time event. None of the verses you presented say we are not saved when we believe. When we are born again of the Spirit, we are born a new creature. Birth does not take a lifetime...it's a one-time event. Whosoever believeth will not perish, but have eternal life.

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The scripture is very clear concerning this..."hath everlasting life...is passed from death unto life.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

 

[glorydaz]

Salvation is not a one time event.

Indeed.

There are many texts where Paul clearly says that believing Christians are being saved. I wonder what gd and others do with such text. Perhaps the same thing they do with Romans 2:6-7.

How about this one?

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Now let's be clear - those who claim that "you're saved at the moment you believe and that's it" are really not taking Paul seriously in the details. If they were taking Paul seriously, they would accept that salvation is indeed a process.

I'd say depends on what translation you're using. Mine doesn't happen to say that, although some do. This is when it's important to take the whole of Scripture, and there is a mountain of evidence that says we are "saved" when we believe.

I'll give a few translations but I won't argue about it being "are saved" or "being saved", since taking that verse in context it's clear what is being said. We are saved by the preaching of the Gospel. Once our heart is circumcised and we're born again, we enter into eternal life...passed from death unto life.

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

For the word of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us who are saved it is the power of God.

For the word of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but to us that are saved it is God's power.

I might add, there are many people that are "being saved" every day by the preaching of the Gospel. We're also being saved from some condition...such as unbelief. It's imperative that we take the whole Word of God and then it becomes very clear.

Just a couple of other examples...there are many many more.

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

 

[Nick]

You notice James says, "claims to have faith". He is speaking to the hypocrites who show by their actions that they do not really have faith. I'm glad you brought this verse forward. It's a perfect example of good deeds being the effect of faith. Not the cause of salvation but the effect. We will know them by their fruit. We are ordained to walk in good deeds when we are saved. We aren't saved by our deeds but we will manifest the fruit of the Spirit once we have been given a new heart of flesh instead of stone. Cause and effect. The cart comes before the horse.

I will add Epheisians 2:8-10:
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Notice that yes, we are to do good works to glorify God - that is our purpose in life. But notice that just before that it is stated that we are NOT saved by works, but through faith. Good works are a product of our faith - which shows our true repentence.

 

[Joe67]

Rom 4:23-5:2
23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: KJV

It is not openly stated, in this witness, what happens when we, through the Spirit, see Jesus being delivered for our offenses, but we do see him dying because of our offenses.Then we see him being raised again for us and our being justified by God for Jesus' sake. This brings us peace with God.

We are justified with God through hearing and believing the communication of the Lord to us concerning, either our sinful deeds as in David's case, or the work that the Lord will have us do as in Abraham's case.

But this is not the end of the matter. It is the beginning, the foundation, the alpha, the key into the room of salvation. Jesus of Nazareth dying because of us and being raised again for us. This is bitter sweet. "The Lord himself providing the sacrifice." "The Lord is our righteousness."

Then comes the next phase of this work of God in and by Jesus Christ, the holy One of the family of God the Father.
Rom 5:2-5
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. KJV

Verse 2 summarizes the relation between faith and grace and the fruit of hope that is brought forth through the union of faith and grace. This is much more bitter sweet.

Verses 3-5 witness to the daily working of this grace and the result of the love of God being shed "abroad" in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us as an earnest of our inheritance.

Grace is a gift wherein the Lord gives us to "stand" in hope. This is a posture of "fighting the good fight of faith", being clothed with the armor of righteousness and the instruments of battle against the wicked one.

It does not openly say that faith is experienced on our face, but look at the experience of all the saints in the Scripture. Before they are lifted up and are given their marching orders, they either cover their face or they fall on their face. But this is not in their first contact with the Lord. It is in a more mature communication of the Lord to them as youth being brought into the service of the Lord. They must be ashamed before the plan and purpose can be revealed to them.

Without faith we cannot please God/have peace with God. Faith is the key into the room of grace, wherein we gain the victory over the wicked one and are saved from our sins as we minister to the family of God given unto Jesus our Lord.

Joe

 

[francisdesales]

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I will add Epheisians 2:8-10:
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Notice that yes, we are to do good works to glorify God - that is our purpose in life. But notice that just before that it is stated that we are NOT saved by works, but through faith. Good works are a product of our faith - which shows our true repentence.

this is an incorrect conclusion.

1 Cor 13:2 DEFINITIVELY destroys the idea that Paul believed that FAITH ALONE saved. NEVER MIND what James says - for the time being. Paul's statement to the Corinthians does not suggest that "good works are a product of our faith". They are a product of God's work within us, not a product of faith. We must first have faith, true, but it doesn't follow that having "faith to move mountains" - a freakin lot of faith - will produce ANY love whatsoever, making faith NOTHING, according to Paul.

"NOTHING" does not save alone. I'm sorry to deflate the sola fide fallacy. It is quite simple. But pretending you are on some "faith alone" conveyor belt to heaven is not in keeping with the Lord's Words in the Gospel about taking the narrow road, dying to self, and having a righteousness of self that is superior to the Pharisees. He explains, in different words, that "faith working in love" is the only thing that matters...

The work of God is to believe in the Christ. To the Jew, belief = ACTION. Not a mental idea that Jesus is the Messiah and trusting that He will save you. It requires love.

Faith without love is nothing.
THUS, faith alone is nothing.

NOTHING does not save.

Regards

 

[francisdesales]

The fact remains...good works do not save us. Good works are the evidence of one's salvation. :yes

So with no evidence, you aren't saved, no matter how much faith you have, correct?

Thus, without love, you are not saved.

Thanks for clearing that up. Faith alone is nothing. 1 Cor 13:2.

 

[francisdesales]

The scripture is very clear concerning this..."hath everlasting life...is passed from death unto life.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Jesus and Paul often refers to "death" and "life" in the spiritual realm, our status TODAY. Those in Christ have life. Those without Christ are "dead". They are indeed PHYSICALLY alive, but are dead to God, spiritually dead. Thus, when Christ says "we have passed from death unto life", He is refering to being born from above, spiritually alive to Christ, no longer "dead" in a relationship.

However, as all relationships, they are not unconditionally established and can be effected by either party's responses. The Bible clearly tells us that God will never leave us. The Bible clearly tells us that man can leave God. Thus, a man can be considered "dead" once again by returning to a 'dead' lifestyle.

Jesus is talking about our relationship with God, not about heaven.

Regards

 

[awaken]

Two questions...
Does the New Testament ever say that those who do not have faith will not be allowed into heaven? Yes, the New Testament specifically says this (e.g. Mark 16:16, John 3:18), and everyone in the faith-alone group and the faith-plus-works group all agree on this point.

Does the New Testament ever say that those that do not have works will not enter heaven?

 

[Drew]

Does the New Testament ever say that those that do not have works will not enter heaven?

Yes.

6God "will give to each person according to what he has done." 7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. 9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; 10but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. 11For God does not show favoritism. 12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.

There is nothing more mystifying than the fact that some will read this text and not see the phrase "he will give eternal life". No, wait, there is something more mystifying - that some will say that they have knowledge that the original Greek is really "he will give (rewards, by implications) in eternal life".

But aside from such unusual positions, this text has to be appropriately understood. The repentent thief is promised salvation. So even though he only lived, say, a few hours after repentence, he apparently does pass the "good works" test.

This is perfectly consistent with the Romans 2 text, however, which gives no specific criteria about "how much good" one has to do in order to be awarded eternal life.

What is not consistent with the text, however, is to assert that this text is not about the awarding of eternal life - it is not possible four Paul to be clearer:

...He will give eternal life.

 

[chestertonrules]

Two questions...
Does the New Testament ever say that those who do not have faith will not be allowed into heaven? Yes, the New Testament specifically says this (e.g. Mark 16:16, John 3:18), and everyone in the faith-alone group and the faith-plus-works group all agree on this point.

Does the New Testament ever say that those that do not have works will not enter heaven?

Yes.

Matt 7:21
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Romans 2
6God "will give to each person according to what he has done."7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

Matt 25
45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' 46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Gal 6
7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

 

[Mysteryman]

Romans 10:10 - "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation"

Romans 10:13 - "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved"