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Lewis W said:What I saying was, that the ones that I have seen and met. Teach and preach also.
Amen Lewis. It is hard to prophesy without teaching and preaching. :wink:
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Lewis W said:What I saying was, that the ones that I have seen and met. Teach and preach also.
Lewis W said:What I saying was, that the ones that I have seen and met. Teach and preach also.Prophetess
4398 προφῆτις [prophetis /prof•ay•tis/] n f. From 4396; TDNT 6:781; TDNTA 952; GK 4739; Two occurrences; AV translates as “prophetess†twice. 1 a prophetess. 2 a woman to whom future events or things hidden from others are at times revealed, either by inspiration or by dreams and visions. 3 a female who declares or interprets oracles.
Lewis W said:Well thats what they call themselves anyway. Now I have never met this one but she and others call her one. She is Jaunita Bynum, who comes on TV a lot.
And to be perfectly honest I don't know what to make of people like that.
But I have met a few who call themselves a prophetess here in Philly, at revivals. No big deal.
Using televangelist as a gage for woman false prophets and teachers is a narrow view.jgredline said:Lewis W said:Well thats what they call themselves anyway. Now I have never met this one but she and others call her one. She is Jaunita Bynum, who comes on TV a lot.
And to be perfectly honest I don't know what to make of people like that.
But I have met a few who call themselves a prophetess here in Philly, at revivals. No big deal.
Lewis
Jaunita is a false prophet http://craom.net/JuanitaBynum.htm
To be honest I can't think of one women who preaches that does not teach falsely of a regular basis. Not one. I realize that there are men who are much worse at preaching heresy, more so than women, but there are many men that teach the word properly.
There is much more about her but this discussion is about should women be pastors. For the record I do believe in the gift of prophecy and I believe that God does use certain people to prophecy / give a message to the church through tounges but this is differant than being a pastor / shepard / teacher in the context of church. A prophetess is not a pastor.
destiny said:Using televangelist as a gage for woman false prophets and teachers is a narrow view.jgredline said:Lewis W said:Well thats what they call themselves anyway. Now I have never met this one but she and others call her one. She is Jaunita Bynum, who comes on TV a lot.
And to be perfectly honest I don't know what to make of people like that.
But I have met a few who call themselves a prophetess here in Philly, at revivals. No big deal.
Lewis
Jaunita is a false prophet http://craom.net/JuanitaBynum.htm
To be honest I can't think of one women who preaches that does not teach falsely of a regular basis. Not one. I realize that there are men who are much worse at preaching heresy, more so than women, but there are many men that teach the word properly.
There is much more about her but this discussion is about should women be pastors. For the record I do believe in the gift of prophecy and I believe that God does use certain people to prophecy / give a message to the church through tounges but this is differant than being a pastor / shepard / teacher in the context of church. A prophetess is not a pastor.
God has a people who are out there behind the scenes doing the work of the kingdom. Both men and woman.
If by way of television was the only way I had to judge woman or men ministers of the gospel, I would get very discouraged.
Lewis W said:Yes I think women should preach the Word of God, and I know that many here will not agree with me. And as I said in another thread I have seen the Holy Ghost use certain women to the max. God will use who He wants.
Rob said:This subject must be a lot easier for the anti-Paul people lol. Anyhow Lovely, I respect the fact that you feel the way you do about this subject. I can't really say that I have ever been to any church where a woman was preaching but I've been to many where women have led Bible study or sunday school. Many women have been given a gift that allows them to share God's word in a special way and maybe they don't have to be a preacher to do that, I don't know. I'm going to have to pray for more guidance on this issue myself.
ikester7579 said:Rob said:This subject must be a lot easier for the anti-Paul people lol. Anyhow Lovely, I respect the fact that you feel the way you do about this subject. I can't really say that I have ever been to any church where a woman was preaching but I've been to many where women have led Bible study or sunday school. Many women have been given a gift that allows them to share God's word in a special way and maybe they don't have to be a preacher to do that, I don't know. I'm going to have to pray for more guidance on this issue myself.
I used to be right where you are at on this subject. Seeing that you seek God instead of listening to others means you are seeking truth from the right place. For any person to be not wanting to be corrected on any issue concerning the word of God, shows an unwillness not to be humble, and not find truth. I know because I had to swallow this truth along with my pride.
The thing that makes me see more truth in the word of God is to ask myself these questions.
1) Is what I believe a preconcieved truth taught to me before I read it in the word of God? You see, when we open the word with an idea of what truth is. Then we will tend to make what we read to conform to that truth.
2) Does what we believe mesh and conform to other parts of the word of God, or are there contridictions? Contridictions in the word of God is actually a human excuse for not understanding it. And is the very reason we need to seek truth from the source and quit relying on what everyone tells us, and accepting majority opinion, where only God's opinion counts.
3) How do we know that we have found some truth concerning God's word? When you get closer and closer to not making things sound as if they contradict each other. There are always situation or conditions that change what is applied to how things work. We are all to willing to apply what we find to everything, when in certain situation, they would not apply. And that is what makes a contradiction.
For once it is understood that the contridiction is not written, but only exists in our minds because we do not understand. Then we have taken the first step towards finding truth.
Contradictions in God's word only exist in our minds. Truth revealed makes them disappear.
The question I would ask to someone who believes women should not preach is this:
What is the only difference between a prophet, and a prophetess?
jgredline said:Some of you have brought women you say are annointed as an example but no biblical proof.
lovely said:Okay, I also wanted to list a few women, past and present, who I believe have ministries that are within the parameters that God has set forth in the Word, and that I believe are not false teachers.
Lewis W said:I was lead to the Lord by a women. And this women said the sinners prayer with me, and then I repeated Romans 10: 9-10 with her. You can go anywhere here in Philly and see women passing out tracks, and sharing the Word of Christ and leading people to God's Kingdom. Are they not to do this ? Today there are more women in the church than men, and thats a fact. Women are more willing than men to receive God, and thats a fact also. I have heard this said by more than a few male pastors, and I know it to be true for myself. And you think God does not know this ? Yes He does, so why not use them. Everywhere I go I see more women in the church than men. I am not downplaying men, because I am a man. I am just stating facts. And men are more willing to go up against God than women, and thats a fact too. So where do we go from here ?
I just think that I needed to post this again. Because a women lead me to the Lord, so because it was a women was it less affective, or not affective at all ?Lewis W said:I was lead to the Lord by a women. And this women said the sinners prayer with me, and then I repeated Romans 10: 9-10 with her. You can go anywhere here in Philly and see women passing out tracks, and sharing the Word of Christ and leading people to God's Kingdom. Are they not to do this ? Today there are more women in the church than men, and thats a fact. Women are more willing than men to receive God, and thats a fact also. I have heard this said by more than a few male pastors, and I know it to be true for myself. And you think God does not know this ? Yes He does, so why not use them. Everywhere I go I see more women in the church than men. I am not downplaying men, because I am a man. I am just stating facts. And men are more willing to go up against God than women, and thats a fact too. So where do we go from here ?