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The Rapture Deception

for_his_glory said:
I don't want to be off guard in my watching.
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we watch by being ready that day can not catch Christians those truly born again off guard. we are children of the day https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2&version=KJV
1 Thessalonians 5:4-6 King James Version (KJV)
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober

what happens if we are in a comma unconscious yet saved? we still go
if we truly believed his return was at any moment . we would be on our knees in prayer more often than we do
 
jasonc said:
Bit coin is money that is generated by codes,the codes are set to create dollar amounts and are taken in America ,they are tracked when they are used .monry is printed by codes added .its actually not perfect but free from central bank controlling
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Jason, I hear some have made a lot of money with this.
I still don't understand it well,
I understand that it's computer money and used for purchasing.
I just don't "get it".
 
wondering said:
Jason, I hear some have made a lot of money with this.
I still don't understand it well,
I understand that it's computer money and used for purchasing.
I just don't "get it".
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Your dollar ,is really just a promissory note whose power is controlled by bankers .

Meaning that stimulus money will cost you in the future via less income as prices go up.
 
jasonc said:
Your dollar ,is really just a promissory note whose power is controlled by bankers .

Meaning that stimulus money will cost you in the future via less income as prices go up.
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Well, I don't live there so it won't cost me more...
Wait,,,it will because Italy is sending money to small companies and of course they'll want it back in one way or another.

I've always said that if the government gives you something....they want more back.
Yeah.
 
wondering said:
Well, I don't live there so it won't cost me more...
Wait,,,it will because Italy is sending money to small companies and of course they'll want it back in one way or another.

I've always said that if the government gives you something....they want more back.
Yeah.
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Italy on the euro,they have a fiat system
 
Consecrated Life said:
It is theological shell game, confusion, and slippery teaching to talk of the coming beast , Son of perdition without addressing God's facilitating this event .
The beast , son of perdition has no power whatsoever to make himself known at any time he desires .
Even he is subservient to the will and timing of God.
God must withdraw His Holy restraining Spirit before Satan can even think about beginning his last hurrah .
" And now ye know what withholdeth that he be revealed in his time"
( 2 Thessalonians 2:6 )
This withdrawing of the withholder at God's command must happen first .
You will never hear the deniers and false teachers address this watershed event in world history as God has assured it will happen .

" ...only He who now letteth will let until He be TAKEN OUT OF HE WAY."
( 2 Thessalonians 2:7 )

Never trust a teacher who studiously avoids discussing a passage of God's Word for fear of weakening their deceptive teaching.
You have not heard them address this watershed moment that God has declared in His word anywhere in this thread.
And you will not hear them address this removal of the withholding Spirit of God .
Beware of any teacher who feels the Word of God Himself contains to many pitfalls for their opinion .
If it were truth the Word of God, in it's entirety, would only strengthen their teaching .
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Satan's man will only be allowed to come forward at the advent of the Holy Spirit's
restraining power being removed from the earth in like manner that He arrived, amidst
" astonishment " and " marvel " .
No secret departure in God's word .
Anyone who tries and portray God's Word as saying this exit will be "secret" has not the Spirit Of Truth .
 
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for_his_glory said:
No, it's not a sin to want to be avenged, but only becomes a sin when anyone takes action on vengeance against their enemies.

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
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Another side note. The police helicopter back where we used to live and that used to buzz our home and harass us(even on Christmas Eve) crashed recently. It fell out of the sky like a brick. It got so bad I prayed the Lord would take it down........be very very careful what you pray for. I shudder at things like this. I'm praying for his family.....he's dead.
 
wondering said:
Don't worry you won't miss the rapture because there won't be any.
You need to rethink this whole matter.

Could you explain
Luke 17:37
37And answering they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.”
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Yep, Love that verse and the one in Matthew that is similar. One is asking where Christ will be and the other asks where we will be. Both are answered the same way. The answer is found in Revelations chapter 19. The other scriptures pre-tribbers cannot account for is where Jesus said we cannot be caught up until the dead in Christ rise first.....and when did He say the dead in Christ are raised? The LAST DAY. Therefore, there is no pre-trib lest they call Christ a liar. The way pre-tribbers "get around" this, is to create multiple Last Days......go figure.
 
wondering said:
Over here there's talk about using an app on person's cell phone to keep track of their health and their movements. It's voluntary ----- for now.

As to fleeing to the wilderness....I can understand how living in a city will not be a very good position to be in when the above happens. We're in the mountains and land is available for planting and hunting is available. It may come to this....this virus has brought us very close.
Food is becoming very expensive and some items can't be found at all times.
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Glad to hear you are safe.
 
jasonc said:
Your dollar ,is really just a promissory note whose power is controlled by bankers .

Meaning that stimulus money will cost you in the future via less income as prices go up.
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Yep, in the short term we face massive deflation. In the long term after fake money floods in to the people to kick start our consumer driven economy........hyper inflation. This may trigger the absolute collapse of the fiat dollar with a new currency taking its place.
 
daninthelionsden said:
Yep, Love that verse and the one in Matthew that is similar. One is asking where Christ will be and the other asks where we will be. Both are answered the same way. The answer is found in Revelations chapter 19. The other scriptures pre-tribbers cannot account for is where Jesus said we cannot be caught up until the dead in Christ rise first.....and when did He say the dead in Christ are raised? The LAST DAY. Therefore, there is no pre-trib lest they call Christ a liar. The way pre-tribbers "get around" this, is to create multiple Last Days......go figure.
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From my understanding, they believe Jesus is coming back two times....
Once for the saved Christians and then again at the end of times.
I agree with you...nowhere does the N.T. speak of two returns.

There is a very valid reason why Jesus says that one will be taken and one will be left....
the FORTUNATE one will be left...the one taken will be killed by the Roman Empire.
WHERE THE VULTURES FLY....where the dead bodies are of those killed. (Luke 17:37)

An answer from the other member would have been interesting...but there is no answer.
That verse makes no sense in the pre-trib scenario.
 
daninthelionsden said:
Another side note. The police helicopter back where we used to live and that used to buzz our home and harass us(even on Christmas Eve) crashed recently. It fell out of the sky like a brick. It got so bad I prayed the Lord would take it down........be very very careful what you pray for. I shudder at things like this. I'm praying for his family.....he's dead.
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We really do need to be careful for what we speak as there is power in our words.

Proverbs 18:20 A man's belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth; and with the increase of his lips shall he be filled. 21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
 
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