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The Rapture Deception

wondering said:
Over here they're trying to remove cash from circulation and I foresee
a day when we'll have a cashless society.
Is this a mark?
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imo i think its part of the plan .in the states its getting close to that way .i been told some places will not take cash. in afct couple months ago i hit a deer in my car. i had insurance to rent a car while repaired . i went to pick it up.i had have 50.00 deposit . they said we dont accept cash .i had the money on me. i had go to the bank get a debit card
 
for_his_glory said:
. Many who claim they are Christ own, but yet have no knowledge of the end times will believe the lying signs and wonders of the son of perdition when he takes his seat in Jerusalem causing a great falling away from the true God and His Son Christ Jesus as they bow down and worship this beast taking its mark as many will believe he is God comedown from heaven.
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the southern baptist teach that real hard on t.v the better preachers are southern baptist .
 
The concept of YHWH for the Jews,Jesus for the gentiles is in Futurism.

That is a whole thread
 
jerry63935 said:
when you call someone a false teacher that is exactly what your saying. that is the point your not getting . i very seldom listen to hagee .i listened to him on you tube the other day. the man is knowledgeable . he is not among my favorite. once again he is not a false teacher.because his doctrine is not the same as yours. .drop your false teacher and you will be ok. joel olsteen is so far out in spaceland. he waters everything down. the preacher in waco texas David ??? then jim jones false teachers J.W falls there to along with latter day saints . i don't agree with apostolic would you consider them false teachers?
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There is no point that I am not getting so let me reiterate. A false teacher is one who teaches the doctrines of man that are separate from the doctrines of Christ and for this they will be accursed, Galatians 1:6-12.

I only hold one doctrine and that is what has already been written in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation being the doctrines of Christ for what He has already taught. You might know that by all the scriptures I have been posting, but no one ever goes back and study's them.

I do not think you and I have anything more to say on this topic so it's time for me to bow out of our conversation.

God bless you and have a good evening.
 
wondering said:
Must leave sis,,,,
but what do you think the mark of the beast is?
I have no idea....
Over here they're trying to remove cash from circulation and I foresee
a day when we'll have a cashless society.
Is this a mark?

tomorrow....
:hug
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The mark of the beast will cause a great falling away of many of the saints of God as they believed a lie that they would be caught up to Christ before the seven trumpets of God's great wrath being poured out into the world that will cause great tribulations. The seventh trumpet will usher in the timing of the son of perdition who takes his literal seat in Jerusalem on the very temple mount of God. He will demand allegiance of the people throughout every nation on every continent as he deceives the nations showing he is God by using lying signs and wonders, promising peace, safety and provision to all who will bow down and worship him, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.

IMO, I believe this mark of the beast is that of the thoughts of the mind and the actions of the hands as many will believe he is God and will reach out and accept him as God. As far as chip implants and the change in currency in order to buy and sell, I can see this happening, but yet we are told in scripture to not accept any of it.
 
jerry63935 said:
you got one thing right you got no POINT and so do they you hold to being judgemental its all about you all about your belief .it reminds me of carm anything outside the calvinist teaching is fake and your not part of the Body of Christ. time to go beat my dead horse :thumbsup my mule is looking at the after trying to figure out where it come from.. enjoy YOUR DOCTRINE as for me i dont drink that kool aid
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And you have a good evening sir.
 
jerry63935 said:
imo i think its part of the plan .in the states its getting close to that way .i been told some places will not take cash. in afct couple months ago i hit a deer in my car. i had insurance to rent a car while repaired . i went to pick it up.i had have 50.00 deposit . they said we dont accept cash .i had the money on me. i had go to the bank get a debit card
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A 50$ deposit wouldn't do the trick anyway.
They used to want 500$ if it was cash...and then they stopped taking the cash and insisted on a credit card. I'm talking about over 30 years ago.

I think something is coming our way...
but I don't know what. Our freedoms are going, going,.......
But the cashless society can't be the mark. One would HAVE TO get that or starve to death.

This is why I don't care too much about eschatology....too much we don't know for certain.
 
for_his_glory said:
The mark of the beast will cause a great falling away of many of the saints of God as they believed a lie that they would be caught up to Christ before the seven trumpets of God's great wrath being poured out into the world that will cause great tribulations. The seventh trumpet will usher in the timing of the son of perdition who takes his literal seat in Jerusalem on the very temple mount of God. He will demand allegiance of the people throughout every nation on every continent as he deceives the nations showing he is God by using lying signs and wonders, promising peace, safety and provision to all who will bow down and worship him, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.

IMO, I believe this mark of the beast is that of the thoughts of the mind and the actions of the hands as many will believe he is God and will reach out and accept him as God. As far as chip implants and the change in currency in order to buy and sell, I can see this happening, but yet we are told in scripture to not accept any of it.
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How could one not accept a chip?
How would one do their food shopping,,,or any shopping?

As to the rest, Jesus said to watch for those that said they were the Messiah.
Matthew 24:23
 
wondering said:
A 50$ deposit wouldn't do the trick anyway.
They used to want 500$ if it was cash...and then they stopped taking the cash and insisted on a credit card. I'm talking about over 30 years ago.

I think something is coming our way...
but I don't know what. Our freedoms are going, going,.......
But the cashless society can't be the mark. One would HAVE TO get that or starve to death.

This is why I don't care too much about eschatology....too much we don't know for certain.
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I seldom use cash and the non fiat money now is actually cashless ,ie bit coin
 
It is theological shell game, confusion, and slippery teaching to talk of the coming beast , Son of perdition without addressing God's facilitating this event .
The beast , son of perdition has no power whatsoever to make himself known at any time he desires .
Even he is subservient to the will and timing of God.
God must withdraw His Holy restraining Spirit before Satan can even think about beginning his last hurrah .
" And now ye know what withholdeth that he be revealed in his time"
( 2 Thessalonians 2:6 )
This withdrawing of the withholder at God's command must happen first .
You will never hear the deniers and false teachers address this watershed event in world history as God has assured it will happen .

" ...only He who now letteth will let until He be TAKEN OUT OF HE WAY."
( 2 Thessalonians 2:7 )

Never trust a teacher who studiously avoids discussing a passage of God's Word for fear of weakening their deceptive teaching.
You have not heard them address this watershed moment that God has declared in His word anywhere in this thread.
And you will not hear them address this removal of the withholding Spirit of God .
Beware of any teacher who feels the Word of God Himself contains to many pitfalls for their opinion .
If it were truth the Word of God, in it's entirety, would only strengthen their teaching .
 
wondering said:
How could one not accept a chip?
How would one do their food shopping,,,or any shopping?

As to the rest, Jesus said to watch for those that said they were the Messiah.
Matthew 24:23
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This chip could possibly be the mark of the beast as it can also be a tracking device for government control over the people as a part of this Luciferian NWO. This will come to fruition when the son of perdition being the beast out of the earth/false prophet/last antichrist takes his literal seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years causing all to bow down and worship him or be killed. No one will be able to buy or sell unless they have this mark of the beast, Rev 13.

Jesus told us to flee into the wilderness when we see the abomination of desolation that Daniel spoke of, Matthew 24:11-16. This will be a time of a greater faith and trust in Christ for His provision for us, like that of the exodus journey in the wilderness where God sent them manna and Quails. From the sounding of the first trumpet to the ending of the sixth this world as we know it will be in total chaos. If we are not trusting Christ and heed His warnings of those things which must come first before His return we could find ourselves accepting this mark of the beast as we fear for our self and our family. There will be a great falling away at this time as even many Christians rejected truth and believe a lie instead, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.
 
for_his_glory said:
This chip could possibly be the mark of the beast as it can also be a tracking device for government control over the people as a part of this Luciferian NWO. This will come to fruition when the son of perdition being the beast out of the earth/false prophet/last antichrist takes his literal seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years causing all to bow down and worship him or be killed. No one will be able to buy or sell unless they have this mark of the beast, Rev 13.

Jesus told us to flee into the wilderness when we see the abomination of desolation that Daniel spoke of, Matthew 24:11-16. This will be a time of a greater faith and trust in Christ for His provision for us, like that of the exodus journey in the wilderness where God sent them manna and Quails. From the sounding of the first trumpet to the ending of the sixth this world as we know it will be in total chaos. If we are not trusting Christ and heed His warnings of those things which must come first before His return we could find ourselves accepting this mark of the beast as we fear for our self and our family. There will be a great falling away at this time as even many Christians rejected truth and believe a lie instead, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.
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Over here there's talk about using an app on person's cell phone to keep track of their health and their movements. It's voluntary ----- for now.

As to fleeing to the wilderness....I can understand how living in a city will not be a very good position to be in when the above happens. We're in the mountains and land is available for planting and hunting is available. It may come to this....this virus has brought us very close.
Food is becoming very expensive and some items can't be found at all times.
 
wondering said:
Right.
I don't even understand bit coin...
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Bit coin is money that is generated by codes,the codes are set to create dollar amounts and are taken in America ,they are tracked when they are used .monry is printed by codes added .its actually not perfect but free from central bank controlling
 
wondering said:
Over here there's talk about using an app on person's cell phone to keep track of their health and their movements. It's voluntary ----- for now.

As to fleeing to the wilderness....I can understand how living in a city will not be a very good position to be in when the above happens. We're in the mountains and land is available for planting and hunting is available. It may come to this....this virus has brought us very close.
Food is becoming very expensive and some items can't be found at all times.
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Flees to the stick marsh,gator has a meal of a few humans and pets .Florida wilderness is a swamp .
 
wondering said:
Over here there's talk about using an app on person's cell phone to keep track of their health and their movements. It's voluntary ----- for now.

As to fleeing to the wilderness....I can understand how living in a city will not be a very good position to be in when the above happens. We're in the mountains and land is available for planting and hunting is available. It may come to this....this virus has brought us very close.
Food is becoming very expensive and some items can't be found at all times.
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I see all that is happening right now that involves the whole world is just a very small snippet of worse things to come. It's good to be educated on certain things so we will not be taken as a thief in the night when Christ returns. In my spirit I feel such an urgency of understanding all that must come first before the return of Christ as I don't want to be off guard in my watching.
 
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