Third Temple Update

[Benoni]

I sure am.

I really do not care about what the Jewish people think or do, they lost there place as God’ s chosen people when they reject the very Christ they were seeking for. God’s elect are not the tribe of Judah and Benjamin as we outward see them today.

Back to my point...

1 Corin 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world (age) are come. example

Example: NT:5178 a : Strong’s: tupikos (toop-ee-kos'); an adverb related to NT:5179; found only in 1 Cor 10:11: as a warning, by way of example, typologically (i.e. figuratively, as a prophetic type, a typological interpretation of Scripture)
Pro. 25: 2

God desires to dwell in a people, not a building.

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter

The Bible is so full of signs and symbols, types, shadows, parables, hidden manna and these realities are found and established all though the Bible. Much that is written about the temple to be is in the Book of Revelation or unveiling of Jesus Christ; that is what the title declares and that is the message. No where does this book declare it is a book of prophesy; nor does it declare it is literal. This message is not like some fairy tale in children’s hour; it is deep and hidden for those with spiritual ears and eyes to see and hears to hear; not religious eyes and ears. God is spiritual and is the essence of life; that which is spiritual is beyond human/ carnal/religious understanding and is deep; the letter killeth; in other words the carnal earthy understanding killeth. God is real; substantial; but God is Spirit and so is truth; only though God’s Spirit will these spiritual symbolism be understood.

According to Webster the word revelation means : apoc•a•lypse

Middle English, revelation, Revelation, from Anglo-French apocalipse, from Late Latin apocalypsis, from Greek apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover. I prefer the Greek

Mysteries: I had a Christian friend at work who was a major figure in his spirit filled, Bible based fundamental religion; tell me there were no mysteries in the Bible. The Bible is full of mysteries (mystery in the Greek language means a sacred secret and used 27 times in NT); The Bible pages are full hidden spiritual mysteries especially when you consider parables types and shadows, patterns not even including the culture and language barriers. The Bible is the blue print of truth; the Holy Spirit within us is the engineer or architect who is the only source of interpreting it.

Not sure what your point is.. It is undisputed that a third temple is planned to be rebuilt by the Jewish people have you been to http://www.templeinstitute.org ?? It's all ready to go. The stage is set.

They won't be sacrificing sheeps and goats. It will be a lamb and a red heffer. The Jewish people don't believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins hense the reason for the daley sacrifice. If your saying the third temple is a biblical metaphor, I am sorry I don't agree.

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Well then guess what ? I've got about 100 coincidences in which endtime scripture is relating to events in the modern day. So I wonder how many coincidences it would take before you would change your mind. How much evidence would you need to see that almost all aspects of prophecy are on their way to being fullfiled in this life time?

A one world religion via the Alliance of Civilizations.

The 10 Horns via the W.E.U.

RFID microchipping to ultimately control buying and selling.

The Third Temple.

Rebuild of Babylon.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) the military alliance between Russia, China, Iran and Islamic countries in Central Asia. All members match the countries in Ezekiel 38.

River Euphrates dried at the push of a button via that Ataruk Dam built in 1990.


This is just a few of my personal favs.


I guess we will agree to disagree. The fact remains a temple is soon to be built and daley sacrifice will happen. I don't know what you call it then, when you see it on the news or read about it right in front of view. Perhaps denial?

Did you go to the Temple Institute website?

 

[Benoni]

You have been reading too many religous books and you are carnalizing far too much of God's Word. These verses were put in God's Word for a reason.

1 Corinthians 3
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1 Corinthians 6
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


Revelation 11
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Hebrews 9
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Hebrews 9
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

2 Corinthians 5
1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Acts 15:14
Declares that he will return again and restore the Tabernacle of David and then he will save the remainder of mankind

Well then guess what ? I've got about 100 coincidences in which endtime scripture is relating to events in the modern day. So I wonder how many coincidences it would take before you would change your mind. How much evidence would you need to see that almost all aspects of prophecy are on their way to being fullfiled in this life time?

A one world religion via the Alliance of Civilizations.

The 10 Horns via the W.E.U.

RFID microchipping to ultimately control buying and selling.

The Third Temple.

Rebuild of Babylon.

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) the military alliance between Russia, China, Iran and Islamic countries in Central Asia. All members match the countries in Ezekiel 38.

River Euphrates dried at the push of a button via that Ataruk Dam built in 1990.


This is just a few of my personal favs.


I guess we will agree to disagree. The fact remains a temple is soon to be built and daley sacrifice will happen. I don't know what you call it then, when you see it on the news or read about it right in front of view. Perhaps denial?

Did you go to the Temple Institute website?

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Only reading one religious book...

The Third Temple

When will it be built?

by Dr. David R. Reagan

The Bible clearly teaches that a new temple  which will be called The Third Temple  will be built in the future. The First Temple was the one that Solomon built and which was destroyed in 586 BC. The Second Temple (516 BC to 70 AD) was built after the Jews returned from Babylonian captivity. The platform on which it sat was greatly expanded and beautified by King Herod, as was the temple itself, but since the sacrifices were never stopped during this renovation and expansion, the new temple was still considered to be The Second Temple.

The Third Temple will exist during the Great Tribulation. Daniel refers to this temple when he says that "the prince who is to come" (the Antichrist) will enter it and stop the sacrifices in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27). The Apostle Paul mentions it when he declares that the "man of lawlessness" will profane the temple by entering it and declaring himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). The Third Temple is also mentioned in the book of Revelation when John is told to measure it  a symbolic way of telling him to assess its spiritual condition (Revelation 11:1-2).

This raises the question as to precisely when the temple will be rebuilt. The Bible does not reveal the answer to this question. All it says for certain is that the temple will be in existence when the Antichrist reveals himself (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), and that will be in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27). Since this will be only three and a half years into the Tribulation, many have concluded that the temple will likely be rebuilt before the Tribulation begins, because how could such a magnificent building be constructed in such a short period of time?

But this conclusion overlooks the fact that the temple can be literally resurrected overnight! That's because the Jews plan to erect a tent temple like the Tabernacle of Moses, and they are ready to do so at any moment. Everything has been prepared. Once this temporary temple is put up, they will resume the sacrifices and then start building a more permanent structure around and above the temporary one.

Currently there are two major obstacles to the reconstruction of The Third Temple. One pertains to its location. The next temple can only be built where the two previous temples stood because the Holy of Holies must be on the exact same spot. But no one knows for sure where the previous temples were located on the Temple Mount. Most scholars believe that they stood where the Dome of the Rock currently stands. That conclusion may be wrong, but there is no way to prove the exact location without conducting archeological excavations on the Temple Mount, something which is currently prohibited by the Muslims. If The Third Temple is to be built where the Dome of the Rock now stands, then that Muslim structure must first of all be removed either by Man or God. It could, of course be burned to the ground by a saboteur, or it could be destroyed by an earthquake.

The second obstacle is the attitude of the Jewish people and their leaders. Currently, there is no desire among them to build a third temple. The average Israeli is very secular. He knows that any attempt to build a third temple would result in immediate war with the Muslims. Only a handful of ultra-Orthodox Jews have a passion for The Third Temple. They are the ones who have made all the preparations. But they have no popular support. Something will have to happen to create a surge of nationalistic pride that will demand a new temple. This catalytic event could be the discovery of the Ark of the Covenant.

There is a distinct possibility that the ancient temples were not located where the Dome of the Rock currently sits. There is strong evidence that their location was to the north of the Dome and that the sacrificial altar inside the Dome was the one that Solomon built in "the middle of the court" to handle the thousands of special sacrifices which he offered to the Lord on the day The First Temple was dedicated (2 Chronicles 7:7). If that is so, then The Third Temple could be built north of the Dome of the Rock, putting the Dome in the Court of the Gentiles. This may well be the solution the Antichrist will come up with when he negotiates a peace between the Jews and the Arabs (Daniel 9:27).

To summarize, there is definitely going to be a third temple. It will most likely be erected at the beginning of the Tribulation in the form of a tent temple, like the Tabernacle of Moses. A more permanent structure will then be built around and above it. The Antichrist will desecrate this temple in the middle of the Tribulation.

The Third Temple will be destroyed at the Second Coming of Jesus. The great earthquake at that time will radically change the topography of Jerusalem and all the earth (Revelation 6:12-17). In Jerusalem it will result in the provision of a very large level area where the Millennial Temple will be constructed. This is the temple from which Jesus will reign over all the earth. It is described in detail in Ezekiel 40-46.

 

[Benoni]

Well if you are your carnalizing it; I quoted valid verses that declares the temple of God is within us. Show me where it is a literal temple seeing God's Word over and over declares the temple of God is with in.

Only reading one religious book...

 

[Benoni]

To start with the Jews are not Isreal; they are the Jews.

Second point there is no such thing as a "second coming" in the Bible.


My last point:

To give a relevant example, what did Jesus actually say was the only reason that he first came ? :-

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

This then is the means by which Jesus intends to save all sinners, but most who cal themselves 'Christian' do not even know he said this, let alone knowing who the House of Israel are or that the new covenant of grace is ONLY with those whose fathers broke the old covenant, with the descendants of the House of Israel and the House of Judah ...

Do you see how far religion has strayed , it no longer seeks out the House of Israel that the disciples of Jesus were commanded to go and find, scattered amongst the gentiles :-

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the House of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the House of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the House of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Temple Institute Builds Sacrificial Altar!



By David Hocking

Temple Institute to Build Sacrificial Altar on Tisha b'Av
by Yehudah Lev Kay

The Temple Institute will begin building the sacrificial altar on Thursday, Tisha B’Av, a fast day when Jews mourn the destruction of the Temple some 2,000 years ago.

The sacrificial altar was located in the center of the Temple, and upon it the Kohanim (priests) offered the numerous voluntary and obligatory sacrifices commanded in the Bible.

The Temple Institute, which has already built many of the vessels for the Holy Temple, such as the ark and the menorah, has now embarked on a project to build the altar. Construction begins Thursday in Mitzpe Yericho (east of Jerusalem) at 5:30 p.m.
“Unfortunately, we cannot currently build the altar in its proper place, on the Temple Mount,†Temple Institute director Yehudah Glick said. “We are building an altar of the minimum possible size so that we will be able to transport it to the Temple when it is rebuilt.â€Â


Even a minimum size altar will work out to be approximately 4 meters tall, 6 meters long, and 6 meters wide. Workers have collected around 10 cubic meters of rocks weighing several tons already.

The rocks were gathered from the Dead Sea area and wrapped individually to assure they remain whole and are not touched by metal, as the Bible requires.

“The Torah says that no iron tools should be used on the altar’s stones,†Glick explained. “The altar represents a connection to life and to the creation of the world. Iron is the opposite – it is used to build tools of war, death, and destruction.â€Â

The stones will be cemented together with a mixture of sand, clay, tar, and asphalt. Researchers from the Temple Institute visited the Finish glass factory near Yerucham to learn how to create a mixture which would remain as cool as possible under the altar’s unremitting fires and protect the Kohanim, who always worked in the Temple barefoot.

Glick said that Tisha B’Av, a day associated with mourning, is really the ideal time to begin to build the Temple. “People mistakenly think Tisha B’Av is only a day to cry,†he explained. “It also has to be a day of action. We have the ability in our era to begin the construction of the Temple.â€Â

“There are many positive developments recently with regard to the Temple,†Glick added. “Hudreds of Jews visited the Temple Mount this week, and more and more continue to come, after undergoing the requisite ritual immersion.â€Â

 

[Benoni]

Sorry not impressed; God's temple is with in me not in some building made of rock.

Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Temple Institute Builds Sacrificial Altar!



By David Hocking

Temple Institute to Build Sacrificial Altar on Tisha b'Av
by Yehudah Lev Kay

The Temple Institute will begin building the sacrificial altar on Thursday, Tisha B’Av, a fast day when Jews mourn the destruction of the Temple some 2,000 years ago.

The sacrificial altar was located in the center of the Temple, and upon it the Kohanim (priests) offered the numerous voluntary and obligatory sacrifices commanded in the Bible.

The Temple Institute, which has already built many of the vessels for the Holy Temple, such as the ark and the menorah, has now embarked on a project to build the altar. Construction begins Thursday in Mitzpe Yericho (east of Jerusalem) at 5:30 p.m.
“Unfortunately, we cannot currently build the altar in its proper place, on the Temple Mount,†Temple Institute director Yehudah Glick said. “We are building an altar of the minimum possible size so that we will be able to transport it to the Temple when it is rebuilt.â€Â


Even a minimum size altar will work out to be approximately 4 meters tall, 6 meters long, and 6 meters wide. Workers have collected around 10 cubic meters of rocks weighing several tons already.

The rocks were gathered from the Dead Sea area and wrapped individually to assure they remain whole and are not touched by metal, as the Bible requires.

“The Torah says that no iron tools should be used on the altar’s stones,†Glick explained. “The altar represents a connection to life and to the creation of the world. Iron is the opposite – it is used to build tools of war, death, and destruction.â€Â

The stones will be cemented together with a mixture of sand, clay, tar, and asphalt. Researchers from the Temple Institute visited the Finish glass factory near Yerucham to learn how to create a mixture which would remain as cool as possible under the altar’s unremitting fires and protect the Kohanim, who always worked in the Temple barefoot.

Glick said that Tisha B’Av, a day associated with mourning, is really the ideal time to begin to build the Temple. “People mistakenly think Tisha B’Av is only a day to cry,†he explained. “It also has to be a day of action. We have the ability in our era to begin the construction of the Temple.â€Â

“There are many positive developments recently with regard to the Temple,†Glick added. “Hundreds o Jews visited the Temple Mount this week, and more and more continue to come, after undergoing the requisite ritual immersion.â€Â

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Thursday, July 30, 2009
Jews in Jerusalem and Around the World Today Are Praying for Another Temple to Be Built in Jerusalem



By Jimmy DeYoung

Today Tish B'Av, the 9th day of the Jewish month Av, is the day on the calendar in 586 BC and 70AD that both the first and second temples were destroyed. The first temple being destroyed by the Babylonian army led by Nebuchadnezzar and the second temple devastated by General Titus and the Roman army.

Jews on this day gather near the area where these temples once stood at the Western Wall and during the 25 hour fast they read the book of Lamentations and pray for the temple to be rebuilt by next Tish B'Av, a prayer that has been prayed every day for over 1900 years.

This Tish B'Av hundreds and thousands of Jews marched to the Temple Mount led by Gershon Solomon, head of the Temple Mount Faithful, to not only read Lamentations and pray for the rebuilding of the next temple, but to also protest American pressure to even give up the Temple Mount to the Palestinians for a Palestinian state.

Jimmy's Prophetic Prospective on the News

Even as America applies pressure on the Israeli government to give up the Temple Mount, there are Jews preparing to follow through on their prayers for a Jewish temple on the Temple Mount. They have everything ready to build the next temple and fulfill Bible prophecy.

On Tish B'Av hundreds and thousands of Jews gather at the Western Wall in Jerusalem and at the seven gates that lead up onto the Temple Mount to read the book of Lamentations and to pray for the temple to be rebuilt by next Tish B'Av.

US pressure on Israel to give up the Temple Mount is in the face of God's plan for this sacred piece of real estate. 2500 years ago the ancient Jewish prophet Zechariah proclaimed that the Messiah, Jesus Christ, would come back and build His temple, the kingdom temple, on the Temple Mount (Zechariah 6:12). I must remind you, however, that before Jesus builds His temple, there will be a temple in the seven year Tribulation period (Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15, II Thessalonians 2:4, and Revelation 11:1.) This next temple will be desecrated by the false messiah, the Antichrist. All preparations have been made for that temple, the tribulation temple, to be rebuilt and they could start construction today.

On Tish B'Av remember - Bible prophecy will be fulfilled

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Temple Institute to Build Altar

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132630

Revelation 11:1-2 describes end times temple:

"I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, "Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the worshipers there. But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months."

 

[parousia70]

Hey NBF, any luck explaining why you believe Jesus will require humans to sacrifice animals directly to Him for atonement of their sins and acceptance in the 4th (Millennial) temple?

You were going to look into that for me a while back.......

 

[Sinthesis]

Hey NBF, any luck explaining why you believe Jesus will require humans to sacrifice animals directly to Him for atonement of their sins and acceptance in the 4th (Millennial) temple?

You were going to look into that for me a while back.......

He's probably been too busy looking for a flawless red heifer. :D

 

[nonbelieverforums]

You gentlemen know perfectly what that when I post articles on the Third Temple it is an update for the building of the third temple. www.templeinstitute.org A third temple that you keep pretending is not in the planning stages. Ohhh well just another coindience of the modern day.

Why not ask the jewish people why they continue to do the daley sacrifice and why they deny Jesus as Dying on the Cross for thier sins?

You both have your own homework. I am still waiting for you to tell me how Nero controlled the buying and selling of the globe when the world was trading and bartering in the first century. My personal fav was the Jewish Telfin.

 

[Benoni]

The Temple of God is within you.

 

[parousia70]

I am still waiting for you to tell me how Nero controlled the buying and selling of the globe when the world was trading and bartering in the first century.

And I'm still waiting for you to tell me why you believe Jesus will require humans to sacrifice animals directly to Him in the Millennial Temple for atonement of their sins.

How is your "waiting" any different from mine?

 

[nonbelieverforums]

What is difference between what I am calling the third temple and you call the Millennial Temple??

 

[parousia70]

What is difference between what I am calling the third temple and you call the Millennial Temple??

Well, you believe There will be a 3rd physical temple in our lifetime built by the Jews who will re institute blood animal sacrifices until such a time as a fellow you call antichrist will Stop the sacrifices...... You also believe there will be a 4th physical temple Jesus will occupy after his return during the Millennium where He will require Humans to render blood animal sacrifices directly to Him for atonement of their sins.

That's the difference.

 

[nonbelieverforums]

You also believe there will be a 4th physical temple Jesus will occupy after his return during the Millennium where He will require Humans to render blood animal sacrifices directly to Him for atonement of their sins

I can't find the post where I said there would be blood animal sacrifices in the Millennium. I did post an article about the four temples. I certainly don't think I ever said anything about blood animal sacrifices in the Millennium. I don't believe that. I certainly believe that on the third.

Even if you don't believe it.. if the third was created on the Temple Mount and animal scrafices did commence what would you make of it.. Would you change your view or would it just be a coincidence? Just humor me on the question please. If it happened does it have any meaning to you whatsoever.

 

[nonbelieverforums]

Thursday, August 6, 2009
A Group of Religious Jews Have Built the Temple in Jerusalem


By Jimmy DeYoung

I must confess the headline for this report is a bit misleading however, I am partially correct. I should have said that a group of religious Jews have built the worlds largest model of the holy temple and it is only a few hundred yards away from the Temple Mount, the site where the Jewish temple existed until 70 AD. The model was built with extensive consultation with the experts and offers a view of the Holy of Holies plus the furniture of the temple including the Ark of the Covenant. And, it was built to help Jews connect with their heritage and to create a desire among the Jews for the rebuilding of their temple in Jerusalem.

Jimmy's Prophetic Prospective on the News

The building of the world's largest model of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem is evidence that we are moving closer to the time when the real temple will be built in Jerusalem according to Bible prophecy.

A yeshiva (a school for Jewish young men to study about the temple) located in Jerusalem has built the world's largest model for the purpose of helping Jews to connect to their heritage but also at the same time, to help non-Jews with the awareness of the rich and broad Jewish history that they have in this holy place.

Bible prophecy does speak of a temple standing in Jerusalem in the last days. 2500 years ago, the ancient Jewish prophet Zechariah wrote that the Messiah, Jesus Christ, would come back to Earth and build His temple for the kingdom period (Zechariah 6:12). However, the Messiah's temple will only be built after Jesus comes back to the Earth. There will be a temple that the Jews will build in Jerusalem during the Tribulation period, that seven years leading up to the Lord's return. Bible prophecy for that temple is found in Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15, II Thessalonians 2:4, and Revelation 11:1.

All the preparations have been made for the next temple, the Tribulation temple. They have 28,000 trained priests. They have the implements to operate the temple and the high priest has been chosen. We are at the point in time when the next temple can be built. Bible prophecy will be fulfilled.

 

[veteran]

This is also the point I've been trying to make with fellow-believers on Christ Jesus. The movement to rebuild the Temple by ORTHODOX JEWS (those that refuse Jesus of Nazareth as The Messiah), is very... strong today. Even with one group like The Land of Israel and Temple Mount Faithful, they've already for years have been doing animal sacrifices on a hill overlooking the Temple Mount on Jewish passover. Many Christian Churches are also helping in that move to rebuild the Temple.

In 1948 Israel became a nation again, per U.N. Charter vote. So what's the natural next vision for a devout orthodox Jew there? The rebuilding of the Temple and institution of the Old Covenant worship including animal sacrifices. Some Christian ministers who want to help in that have the idea that by so doing, they will help usher in Christ's second coming sooner. (I see that only as an excuse though). So make no mistake, not just orthodox Jews are involved in that plan to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem.

Per the last 9 chapters of Ezekiel, a milennial Temple is mentioned with our Lord Jesus reigning from it. It's on the earth too, since even specific areas in the Holy Land are mentioned along with the River of the waters of life that come out from its sanctuary flowing to other waters on the earth (Ezek.47). That's the picture of the Holy City John was given in Rev.21-22. (Not all events given in those Revelation chapters are in chronological order. The OT prophets show their correct order, as that's the same layout Ezekiel was shown starting at Ezekiel 40).

Rev 11:1-2
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, "Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
(KJV)

That Rev.11:2 reference about the Gentiles (deceived Gentiles) involves a temple in Jerusalem. That one is NOT in Heaven, for no one would be allowed to tread it if it was in Heaven. I also believe a third temple will be built for the future tribulation timing. And it will cause many Christians that are drunken spiritually to go along with it, (part of the latter days great apostasy of God's people) and even support it, just as some having been doing already.

If this literally happens, what will it mean for those who think the "thousand years" of Christ's reign on earth with His saints is already past? They will not be able to match the layout of the Temple given in Ezekiel, which has never been built, which involves a 60 square mile area with Jerusalem at its center.