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Three person God identified in the Bible?

Where is the three person God identified in the Bible?

  • A three person God is identified in the Bible

    Votes: 12 41.4%

  • A three person God is not identified in the Bible

    Votes: 13 44.8%

  • A three person God is not identified but is implied

    Votes: 3 10.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Total voters
    29
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Free said:
And yet, you still haven't addressed these problems with your position:

1. God, as you portray him, is deficient in nature, contradicting what John says, namely, that "God is love."
2. There is not a single verse in the Bible that states God is only one person, an absolute unity, as you are saying he is.
3. It ignores the logic of the grammar of verses such as John 1:1, that the Word was both "with God" and "was God" (in nature).
4. It makes God's revealing of himself as Father and Son completely meaningless; it communicates nothing to us.
5. It makes the continual distinctions between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit pointless.
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They are not questions, but your own opinions and doubts. They are for you to work through, and I am willing to help, if I can.

Anyway, I'm turning in.
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Cooper said:
They are not questions, more like your own opinions. They are for you to work through, and I am willing to help, if I can.
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It is irrelevant that they are not questions; they are serious problems with your position, which is why it is likely you're avoiding them. But you need to address those points. If your position on the matter is true, it should be easy to show where I have erred. Why would I need your help to work through anything, when you have demonstrated that you don't really understand the nature of the discussion nor the doctrine of the Trinity? I have tried to help you work through things and you have basically ignored it all, which is incredibly disrespectful.
 
Cooper said:
They were praying to the omnipresent God of the Jews who is One God. What the Father did the Son did etc. and as the Father was in the Son, they were praying to the I AM of the Old Testament, the God of the Jews, or more correctly the God of the whole world whether in heaven, on earth or in our hearts.
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Agreed.
And, according to your above description, people were praying to God Father.
Now, Jesus also said He was I AM, but there is a distinction between God Father, whom no man has ever seen, and God Son, who went to the cross for us.

The Son is the Word of God, as you've stated.
It's still One God....a different "part" of God.
While Jesus was on earth I'd have to say that He was not omnipresent.
God Father and God the Holy Spirit were still omnipresent.
And the Word of God, as God's reason and logic, were still present with Him,
but He was manifested as Jesus on earth so as to reveal God to us.
 
Randy said:
I believe the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of our Heavenly Father. There is only one Spirit.
Jesus was anointed by the Spirit of the one who sent Him as He read from the scroll.
The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners
Luke 3:22
And the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

Luke 3:22
“Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.
Acts 2
God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,

Ephesians 4
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Matt 10
I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
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Very good Randy.
It surely does seem that there is indeed only One Spirit...
the Spirit of God which is also the Holy Spirit.
Thanks.
 
wondering said:
Agreed.
And, according to your above description, people were praying to God Father.
Now, Jesus also said He was I AM, but there is a distinction between God Father, whom no man has ever seen, and God Son, who went to the cross for us.

The Son is the Word of God, as you've stated.
It's still One God....a different "part" of God.
While Jesus was on earth I'd have to say that He was not omnipresent.
God Father and God the Holy Spirit were still omnipresent.
And the Word of God, as God's reason and logic, were still present with Him,
but He was manifested as Jesus on earth so as to reveal God to us.
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Jesus is not a part of God.
"The fullness" was pleased to dwell in Him.
He is all that the Father is. The very image of the invisible God.

The only begotten Son or the only begotten God.
 
Cooper said:
He insists Jesus was only a man, ignoring who he was before the incarnation.
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I don't think Free is saying that Jesus was ONLY a man.
He's saying that THE WORD of God,, what you rightly understand as being the Word,
BECAME FLESH...became man.
When Jesus became man, He was LIMITED in what He knew when He was in heaven with the Father, or, I should say, a "part" of the Father (as Father's Word).

Are you up to par on the hypostatic union?
This explains it well.
Jesus was a man,
and He was divine.

Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God.

God (Father) is invisible because He is a being, an entity, a spirit, and no human has ever seen Him.
 
Randy said:
Jesus is not a part of God.
"The fullness" was pleased to dwell in Him.
He is all that the Father is. The very image of the invisible God.

The only begotten Son or the only begotten God.
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Correct. But I think the other member understands it this way.
We each have our way of understanding the Trinity.
As long as we know it is ONE GOD,
But 3 persons that are coequal and have always existed.
 
Cooper said:
God only became Father after the birth of Jesus on the earth. Prior to that Jesus was the Word. At his birth the angel said to call his name Jesus. But all the time Jesus, the pre-existing creator, is and always be, the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end.
I'm going to bed.
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A belated good night!
:)
 
Cooper said:
He insists Jesus was only a man, ignoring who he was before the incarnation.
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I missed this one. Not only have I never insisted or even stated or implied that Jesus was only a man, I very clearly stated that he was truly God and truly man. And that was right before you made this post: truly God and truly man
 
wondering said:
Correct. But I think the other member understands it this way.
We each have our way of understanding the Trinity.
As long as we know it is ONE GOD,
But 3 persons that are coequal and have always existed.
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Coeternal persons by definition can not have a parent.( Father, Son) I take that relationship literally rather than metaphorically. The way the trinity is established despite what people state strongly points to metaphorically. Coeternal, Coequal persons who share one Spirit as it is stated are not Father and Son. I can see where Cooper is coming from.
 
Randy said:
Coeternal persons by definition can not have a parent.( Father, Son) I take that relationship literally rather than metaphorically. The way the trinity is established despite what people state strongly points to metaphorically. Coeternal, Coequal persons who share one Spirit as it is stated are not Father and Son. I can see where Cooper is coming from.
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We call Him Son because He was born and became a human.
Jesus is THE WORD OF GOD...
as stated by John 1:1

This is the easiest and best way to understand the Trinity.
 
Randy said:
Coeternal persons by definition can not have a parent.( Father, Son) I take that relationship literally rather than metaphorically. The way the trinity is established despite what people state strongly points to metaphorically. Coeternal, Coequal persons who share one Spirit as it is stated are not Father and Son. I can see where Cooper is coming from.
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The Son was the pre-incarnate Word, who has always existed, just as the Father and the Holy Spirit have always existed. The Father and Son relationship is literal but you have to remember that human father/son relationships are the metaphor for the eternal Father/Son relationship. It breaks down when it comes to people simply because we are finite. There was never a time when the Son (or the Word or second person of the Trinity, if you prefer) did not exist.
 
Free said:
The Son was the pre-incarnate Word, who has always existed, just as the Father and the Holy Spirit have always existed. The Father and Son relationship is literal but you have to remember that human father/son relationships are the metaphor for the eternal Father/Son relationship. It breaks down when it comes to people simply because we are finite. There was never a time when the Son (or the Word or second person of the Trinity, if you prefer) did not exist.
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Watcha gonna do when you wanna sing the blues
and you know it don't come easy?
:rocking

Good night.
 
JLB said:
But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
“You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10


again


For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Colossians 1:16




In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1




Jesus is LORD; our great God and Savior.



Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
2 Peter 1:1



looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13




JLB
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You're saying that in the OT it's always Jesus?
(That appears)
 
Free said:
The Son was the pre-incarnate Word, who has always existed, just as the Father and the Holy Spirit have always existed. The Father and Son relationship is literal but you have to remember that human father/son relationships are the metaphor for the eternal Father/Son relationship. It breaks down when it comes to people simply because we are finite. There was never a time when the Son (or the Word or second person of the Trinity, if you prefer) did not exist.
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So how did Jesus become the Son if He has no beginning?
 
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