Truth

[kevinmaynard]

I was anticipating that you were going to disagree, and I would have responded that Jesus was perfect and told us to repent, and I am not perfect, and I have learned it is better to repent. But since you agree with me, I can't say that.

Interesting.

 

[elijah23]

Interesting.

If you said something that wasn't true, we could argue about it.

 

[kevinmaynard]

If you said something that wasn't true, we could argue about it.

ah. equally interesting.

 

[elijah23]

ah. equally interesting.

THERE you go. not interesting at all.

 

[kevinmaynard]

THERE you go. not interesting at all.

I think you are interesting. Interesting is subjective.

 

[elijah23]

I think you are interesting. Interesting is subjective.

I would agree that interesting is subjective, since I think I am not interesting.

 

[elijah23]

And Paul,(through the Spirit) gives us a human life(his) as an example of what Jesus taught in the Gospels. If you don't agree with what Paul taught on how to live and how to interpret and apply what Jesus taught in the Gospels,One would be a baby Christian,reversionistic or not a christian.

A mature Christian will be able to discern from when Christ was teaching Israel or the Church in the Gospels.

Christ's commandments are to be obeyed.

 

[kevinmaynard]

Christ's commandments are to be obeyed.

How many are there?

 

[elijah23]

How many are there?

"You know the commandments: `Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.'" Mark 10:19 RSV

 

[kevinmaynard]

"You know the commandments: `Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.'" Mark 10:19 RSV

You left one out. Do you know what it is?

 

[elijah23]

And Paul,(through the Spirit) gives us a human life(his) as an example of what Jesus taught in the Gospels. If you don't agree with what Paul taught on how to live and how to interpret and apply what Jesus taught in the Gospels,One would be a baby Christian,reversionistic or not a christian.

A mature Christian will be able to discern from when Christ was teaching Israel or the Church in the Gospels.

Pride is a sin (Mark 7:20-13).

 

[kevinmaynard]

Pride is a sin (Mark 7:20-13).

How is that an example of the sin of pride?

 

[elijah23]

You left one out. Do you know what it is?

You are working me very hard this evening. Is this what you are referring to:

[20] And he said to him, "Teacher, all these I have observed from my youth."
[21] And Jesus looking upon him loved him, and said to him, "You lack one thing; go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me." Mark 10:20-21 RSV

Actually, I think it's important people are aware of this:

[34] But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." Matt 22:34-40 RSV

 

[Eugene]

If you want truth, read what Jesus Christ said. His teachings are found in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Any Christian who says these teachings are not the truth is a heretic.

You do realize that Jesus did not stop His teachings after He went to heaven don’t you? I may be mistaken, but you seem to infer the writings of other apostles are not in line with the four gospels.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

 

[elijah23]

How is that an example of the sin of pride?

Isn't he implying that he is a mature Christian? Wouldn't it be prideful for me to proclaim, "I am a mature Christian"?

 

[kevinmaynard]

You are working me very hard this evening. Is this what you are referring to:

Actually, I think it's important people are aware of this:

No I asked which specific one of Mathew 16-9 you left out. I think it is revealing to the current conversation. I want you to reflect.

Mt 19:16-19 "And behold, one came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?" And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is onlyOne who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." He *said to Him, "Which ones?" And Jesus said, "You shall not commit murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness;Honor your father and mother; and You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

 

[kevinmaynard]

Isn't he implying that he is a mature Christian? Wouldn't it be prideful for me to proclaim, "I am a mature Christian"?

Not if it is a simple statement of fact. Also, he didn't proclaim to be one, just said what one who is mature should be able to discern.

Pride can also, relate to your OP.

 

[elijah23]

You do realize that Jesus did not stop His teachings after He went to heaven don’t you? I may be mistaken, but you seem to infer the writings of other apostles are not in line with the four gospels.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. His teachings are found in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. That is what I am saying.

 

[elijah23]

No I asked which specific one of Mathew 16-9 you left out. I think it is revealing to the current conversation. I want you to reflect.

Mt 19:16-19 "And behold, one came to Him and said, "Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?" And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is onlyOne who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." He *said to Him, "Which ones?" And Jesus said, "You shall not commit murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness;Honor your father and mother; and You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Yes, I was quoting Mark. You are quoting Matthew, But then I quoted this (which includes your quote):

[34] But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." Matt 22:34-40 RSV

 

[kevinmaynard]

Yes, I was quoting Mark. You are quoting Matthew, But then I quoted this (which includes your quote):

Actually you were quoting Mathew. Mark 16-9 is totally different. I thought it would be rude to point that out earlier.