Who Are The Two Witnesses?

[Happygolucky?]

Paul is not Jesus. They are two completely different person's.
I asked DC you where Jesus told us christians that we CA should kill and toent other people and you answer with Paul saying w red will judge someone someday.

Jesus said we not to judge .

So Paul’s writings are not scripture?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

It does and because you are not able to see it.. yet. I can assure you, it does.

No,the two witnesses are not said to build anything.
They just kill and torment people.
Here is where it says they kill people.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Here is where it says they torment people.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

See how easy that was for me to posts those two verses without adding anything to them.

Now let's see you post the verse that says those two witnesses build something.
I assure you.The word build is not found in that chapter at all.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

So Paul’s writings are not scripture?

Paul is not Jesus.My master is Jesus,not Paul.

I asked you where did my master Jesus say his servants should kill and torment other people.

You then quoted Paul as if he were Christ.

 

[eddif]

1 Corinthians 5:5 kjv
5. To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

There is a long process before punishment comes, and the Christian seeks redemption.

Mississippi redneck
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[Happygolucky?]

No,the two witnesses are not said to build anything.
They just kill and torment people.
Here is where it says they kill people.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Here is where it says they torment people.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

See how easy that was for me to posts those two verses without adding anything to them.

Now let's see you post the verse that says those two witnesses build something.
I assure you.The word build is not found in that chapter at all.

The truth is, Zerubbabel in Zechariah Chapter 4 is symbolic of 1 of the 2 witnesses. Once again nothing in Zechariah 4 occurred during the second temple era, aside from Zechariah receiving those messages.

the encounter Zechariah had with the angel on 24th day of the 11th month in the second year of Darius spanned from ch1:7 until the end of ch. 6.
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Zechariah 3:8

‘Now listen, Joshua the highpriest, you and your friends who are sitting in front of you—indeed they are men who are a symbol, for behold, I am going to bring in My servant the [fn]Branch.

We are told Joshua the high priest and his friends are a symbol Zerubbabel is a companion at the feet of Joshua. Joshua symbolizes the Branch which is a title of the Messiah.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

1 Corinthians 5:5 kjv
5. To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

There is a long process before punishment comes, and the Christian seeks redemption.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

Every now and then I try to remind people that that the armed forces of the north are occupying Jerusalem when those two witnesses are.Here is what the word of God say comes out of the witnesses mouths.

Revelation11
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

And here is the interpretation of that verse.

Fire commands are oral orders issued by leaders to focus and distribute fires as required achieving decisive effects against the enemy. They allow leaders to rapidly and concisely articulate their firing instructions using a standard format (Refer to TC 3-20.31-4 for more information).

 

[Happygolucky?]

Paul is not Jesus.My master is Jesus,not Paul.

I asked you where did my master Jesus say his servants should kill and torment other people.

You then quoted Paul as if he were Christ.

My belief is that Jesus is God and all scripture is inspired of God. To me Paul’s writings are scripture. Therefore Paul’s writings are Jesus speaking


Do you accept Paul’s writings as scripture?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The truth is, Zerubbabel in Zechariah Chapter 4 is symbolic of 1 of the 2 witnesses. Once again nothing in Zechariah 4 occurred during the second temple era, aside from Zechariah receiving those messages.

the encounter Zechariah had with the angel on 24th day of the 11th month in the second year of Darius spanned from ch1:7 until the end of ch. 6.
In Chapter

Zechariah 3:8

‘Now listen, Joshua the highpriest, you and your friends who are sitting in front of you—indeed they are men who are a symbol, for behold, I am going to bring in My servant the [fn]Branch.

We are told Joshua the high priest and his friends are a symbol Zerubbabel is a companion at the feet of Joshua. Joshua symbolizes the Branch which is a title of the Messiah.

You only have one problem.
The two of witnesses are in doing the exact be opposite of everything Jesus teaches in the gospel.
They do everything Jesus commands not to do.

 

[Happygolucky?]

You only have one problem.
The two of witnesses are in doing the exact be opposite of everything Jesus teaches in the gospel.
They do everything Jesus commands not to do.

Are Paul’s writings scripture?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

My belief is that Jesus is God and all scripture is inspired of God. To me Paul’s writings are scripture. Therefore Paul’s writings are Jesus speaking


Do you accept Paul’s writings as scripture?

Paul is not Jesus and of Paul speaks contray to Jesus then Jesus overides Paul.Not the other way around.

You believe Paul commands christians to kill and torment other people in Jesus name then why don't you quote where Paul says that?

 

[Happygolucky?]

The two olive trees become one new man.

We have one cerebellum, but it looks like a tree planted on either side of the spinal fluid river, made in vesicles in the cloud part of the brain.

Symbolism conceals and can reveal. Metaphysics requires two things:
The greater meaning
And
The physical

The root supports the two olive trees.
One original and one wild but grafted in.

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As a Gentile, The only way to partake of the fatness of the root of the good olive tree, it to be broken off and grafted in. We are broken upon believing and grafted into the good olive tree. If this were not case, then why not remain on the wild olive tree?

Romans 11:17

17But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted inamong them and became partaker with them of the [j]rich root of the olive tree, 18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you.


It is by being broken off and grafted in, that we partake of the fatness root. If we shared of the root before faith In Christ, what need to be grafted into the natural tree?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Are Paul’s writings scripture?

By the definition of the word scripture,anything in the Bible is scripture.But that doesn't make everything in the Bible the word of God.


Just because Peter felt that he should chose the 12th apostle of Christ and it's in the Bible doesn't mean he was correct to do so.Its not the word of God that they should cast lots to see who would be the 12th apostle.

God had said he would put his word in one person's mouth in scripture.Paul.is not that one person.I hope that you know who the Lord is talking about and can the difference between Jesus and Paul.If not,your listening to the wrong person.

Deuteronomy 18:18-19
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

 

[eddif]

Please elaborate

We are made in the image of God.
Romans 1:20
Not only does the Bible describe the wild olive tree grafted in, but our human body is created so as to show we were made in a way to support scripture.

Two witnesses;
One written
The other created

The Bible says the things of God are seen in his creation. Hidden but revealed if we ask.

The parable of the sower: Matthew 13
Mark 4

The sower - Jesus
The seed - the word of God
The Ground - men’s hearts

The plants DNA defines the plant growth and seed production

The Bible defines our growth and teaching that men may be born again.

A little strange, but God made everything to tell us hidden mysteries.
But
Jesus used parables to conceal the truth from the multitudes. In private he revealed the truth to the disciples (when asked what the parable meant).

Need more specifics? Ask.

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[Happygolucky?]

Paul is not Jesus and of Paul speaks contray to Jesus then Jesus overides Paul.Not the other way around.

You believe Paul commands christians to kill and torment other people in Jesus name then why don't you quote where Paul says that?

Once again, Zerubbabel is symbolic of one of the 2 witnesses In Haggai 2:20-23

It is an unfulfilled prophecy and he is described as the signet of Jehovah.


20Then the word of the LORD came a secondtime to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying, 21“Speak to Zerubbabelgovernor of Judah, saying, ‘I am going to shakethe heavens and the earth. 22And I will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroythe power of the kingdoms of the [v]nations; and I will overthrow the chariots and their riders, and the horses and their riders will go down, everyone by the sword of another.’ 23‘On that day,’ declares the LORD of armies, ‘I will take you, Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, My servant,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will make you like a [w]signet ring, for I have chosen you,’” declaresthe LORD of armies.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Once again, Zerubbabel is symbolic of one of the 2 witnesses In Haggai 2:20-23

It is an unfulfilled prophecy and he is described as the signet of Jehovah.


20Then the word of the LORD came a secondtime to Haggai on the twenty-fourth day of the month, saying, 21“Speak to Zerubbabelgovernor of Judah, saying, ‘I am going to shakethe heavens and the earth. 22And I will overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroythe power of the kingdoms of the [v]nations; and I will overthrow the chariots and their riders, and the horses and their riders will go down, everyone by the sword of another.’ 23‘On that day,’ declares the LORD of armies, ‘I will take you, Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, My servant,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will make you like a [w]signet ring, for I have chosen you,’” declaresthe LORD of armies.

So you believe it's good to kill and torment other people.
You must not read much of the gospel.
Would you like me to quote Jesus's lessons on how his servants should treat others or are you not interested in Jesus's words?

 

[Happygolucky?]

We are made in the image of God.
Romans 1:20
Not only does the Bible describe the wild olive tree grafted in, but our human body is created so as to show we were made in a way to support scripture.

Two witnesses;
One written
The other created

The Bible says the things of God are seen in his creation. Hidden but revealed if we ask.

The parable of the sower: Matthew 13
Mark 4

The sower - Jesus
The seed - the word of God
The Ground - men’s hearts

The plants DNA defines the plant growth and seed production

The Bible defines our growth and teaching that men may be born again.

A little strange, but God made everything to tell us hidden mysteries.
But
Jesus used parables to conceal the truth from the multitudes. In private he revealed the truth to the disciples (when asked what the parable meant).

Need more specifics? Ask.

eddif

The Bible describes an olive branch being grafted in not the entire tree

Romans 11:24

24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olivetree, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will thesewho are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?

Branches are broken off for their unbelief and replaced with believing Gentile branches. That wild olive tree remains as unbelievers and each branch will be judged accordingly, however the Lord will judge

 

[Shilohsfoal]

We are made in the image of God.
Romans 1:20
Not only does the Bible describe the wild olive tree grafted in, but our human body is created so as to show we were made in a way to support scripture.

Two witnesses;
One written
The other created

The Bible says the things of God are seen in his creation. Hidden but revealed if we ask.

The parable of the sower: Matthew 13
Mark 4

The sower - Jesus
The seed - the word of God
The Ground - men’s hearts

The plants DNA defines the plant growth and seed production

The Bible defines our growth and teaching that men may be born again.

A little strange, but God made everything to tell us hidden mysteries.
But
Jesus used parables to conceal the truth from the multitudes. In private he revealed the truth to the disciples (when asked what the parable meant).

Need more specifics? Ask.

eddif

Two witnesses who spend 1260 days killing and tormenting other people before they are killed as they have killed.
What goes around comes around.

 

[Happygolucky?]

So you believe it's good to kill and torment other people.
You must not read much of the gospel.
Would you like me to quote Jesus's lessons on how his servants should treat others or are you not interested in Jesus's words?

I know the 2 witnesses are specifically chosen by the Lord to do whatsoever the Lord decrees. They will be instruments of the Lord. They are not evil and any suggestion as such flies in the face of all logic.

It is a waste of time to debate on whether they are good or evil.

 

[eddif]

Every now and then I try to remind people that that the armed forces of the north are occupying Jerusalem when those two witnesses are.Here is what the word of God say comes out of the witnesses mouths.

Revelation11
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

And here is the interpretation of that verse.

Fire commands are oral orders issued by leaders to focus and distribute fires as required achieving decisive effects against the enemy. They allow leaders to rapidly and concisely articulate their firing instructions using a standard format (Refer to TC 3-20.31-4 for more information).

Does it say? Aim thy rock at the forehead of the enemy.
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Alert the heavenly forces to take care of the problem at these coordinates. Vengeance is Gods and he will repay.

There was a time when His people did the punishment.

I have tried to turn in my bag of rocks. Regretfully at times I have to remind myself to stop looking for rocks. Lead us not into temptation.

Did I mess it up?

eddif

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I know the 2 witnesses are specifically chosen by the Lord to do whatsoever the Lord decrees. They will be instruments of the Lord. They are not evil and any suggestion as such flies in the face of all logic.

It is a waste of time to debate on whether they are good or evil.

So you can't tell the difference between good and evil.

You can't tell by their fruit.