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WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS? - Part 2

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Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

I think what it is she is pleased that us kids are playing nice for a change...taking turns on the teeter toter, sharing the sand bucket and shovel, not sticking our tongues out at each other, not throwing sand at each other...


LOL I think you are right about that, Jethro. :)

... not throwing sand at each other...

No telling what's in that sand! :biglol


JLB

Look what's in Edward's sand:

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Is that totally cool, or what?

I know it's a smilie, but it has a SpongeBob feel about it.
 
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Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

No throwing sand :rollingpin

Did you know that if you type in
HTML:
:reba
you get :rollingpin?

Just another fun fact from Jethro's Book of Fun Facts (Amazon books $29.95 hardcover edition).

(Look...syncronized rolling pins.)
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

I think what it is she is pleased that us kids are playing nice for a change...taking turns on the teeter toter, sharing the sand bucket and shovel, not sticking our tongues out at each other, not throwing sand at each other...


LOL I think you are right about that, Jethro. :)

... not throwing sand at each other...

No telling what's in that sand! :biglol


JLB

Look what's in Edward's sand.

Is that totally cool, or what?

I know it's a smilie, but it has a SpongeBob feel about it.

Don't eat the sand!


JLB
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Rom 3:19

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Rom 3:20

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Gal 3:10

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12

And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Gal 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

I find it really hard to understand how satan has so blinded much of the "church" It seems so few understand what is so clear?:praying




This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]45182[/split] by Mitspa Titled WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?
Hope to keep this thread on topic?:wave
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Good idea Mitspa good idea.... :)
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


Here is the most evident truth of scripture, that no man can keep the law, is made so clear that one must wonder at those who attempt to justify their flesh by the law. What witchcraft has satan to cast his spell upon the hearts and minds of those who look to the law of Moses?:mad
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


Here is the most evident truth of scripture, that no man can keep the law, is made so clear that one must wonder at those who attempt to justify their flesh by the law. What witchcraft has satan to cast his spell upon the hearts and minds of those who look to the law of Moses?:mad

Uh, would you explain this then?

Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Or should that be "I can do SOME things through Christ which strengtheneth me" ?
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


Here is the most evident truth of scripture, that no man can keep the law, is made so clear that one must wonder at those who attempt to justify their flesh by the law. What witchcraft has satan to cast his spell upon the hearts and minds of those who look to the law of Moses?:mad

Uh, would you explain this then?

Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Or should that be "I can do SOME things through Christ which strengtheneth me" ?

Well then It is Christ working through the believer that fulfills the righteousness just as the scriptures declare.


Rom 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Rom 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


Here is the most evident truth of scripture, that no man can keep the law, is made so clear that one must wonder at those who attempt to justify their flesh by the law. What witchcraft has satan to cast his spell upon the hearts and minds of those who look to the law of Moses?:mad

Uh, would you explain this then?

Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Or should that be "I can do SOME things through Christ which strengtheneth me" ?

Well then It is Christ working through the believer that fulfills the righteousness just as the scriptures declare.


Rom 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Rom 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

But you keep saying that man cannot keep the Law, yet Paul said he could do all things through Christ that strengthened him.
 
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...Paul said he could do all things through Christ that strengthened him.

"...through faith...we establish the Law." (Romans 3:31 NASB)

Faith, given to us via the Holy Spirit, leads us into fulfillment of the law, the very thing the law of written words in and of itself could not do.

"27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances." (Ezekiel 36:27 NASB)
 
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I saw a movie documentary about this. Moses actually had 15 Commandments. 5 were written on each tablet and he dropped one by mistake which broke. It was a pretty popular documentary. Just say'in...........

Mike.
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

...Paul said he could do all things through Christ that strengthened him.

"...through faith...we establish the Law." (Romans 3:31 NASB)

Faith, given to us via the Holy Spirit, leads us into fulfillment of the law, the very thing the law of written words in and of itself could not do.

"27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances." (Ezekiel 36:27 NASB)


All most all, except God 7th Day Sabbath.

--Elijah
 
I saw a movie documentary about this. Moses actually had 15 Commandments. 5 were written on each tablet and he dropped one by mistake which broke. It was a pretty popular documentary. Just say'in........... Mike.

:lol...I don't think that was a documentary, but good one.
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Gal 3:11

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


Here is the most evident truth of scripture, that no man can keep the law, is made so clear that one must wonder at those who attempt to justify their flesh by the law. What witchcraft has satan to cast his spell upon the hearts and minds of those who look to the law of Moses?:mad

Uh, would you explain this then?

Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Or should that be "I can do SOME things through Christ which strengtheneth me" ?

Well then It is Christ working through the believer that fulfills the righteousness just as the scriptures declare.


Rom 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Rom 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Rom 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


Very good thread Mitspa.

Certainly we are free from the law in Christ, but there is value in the law that we should not forget. Paul points this out in may examples. One of my favorite Romans 7:7 7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.

The law points to Christ, and works like a mirror to reflect our sinful nature. But, it also provides a standard in Christ. Where I think we have issues some times is in understanding that Christ is that standard and not us, but that in Christ we meet the standard and we also strive for that standard.
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

...Paul said he could do all things through Christ that strengthened him.

"...through faith...we establish the Law." (Romans 3:31 NASB)

Faith, given to us via the Holy Spirit, leads us into fulfillment of the law, the very thing the law of written words in and of itself could not do.

"27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances." (Ezekiel 36:27 NASB)


All most all, except God 7th Day Sabbath.

--Elijah
Incorrect. The Sabbath rest is satisfied by faith in Christ, too. Just because the literal fulfillment has been laid aside doesn't mean faith didn't fulfill that, too.

Think 'animal sacrifice for sin', and how that is fulfilled by faith in Christ, not destroyed, and how it doesn't have to be kept literally anymore, and you'll see how the literal Sabbath also is fulfilled in Christ, not destroyed, and doesn't have to be kept literally anymore. But you certainly can if you want.
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

The law points to Christ, and works like a mirror to reflect our sinful nature. But, it also provides a standard in Christ. Where I think we have issues some times is in understanding that Christ is that standard and not us, but that in Christ we meet the standard and we also strive for that standard.

Basically the book of James in a nutshell.
 
Re: WHY DID GOD GIVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS?

The law points to Christ, and works like a mirror to reflect our sinful nature. But, it also provides a standard in Christ. Where I think we have issues some times is in understanding that Christ is that standard and not us, but that in Christ we meet the standard and we also strive for that standard.

Basically the book of James in a nutshell.

Yes, I'd say the book of James presents a good explanation of how we are to view the law in our relationship to the real salvation we have, not in the law, but from the law, in Christ Jesus. But, there are many such examples in the bible.

James 1:22-27
22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. 23 Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror 24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. 25 But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it—not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it—they will be blessed in what they do.

26 Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless. 27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

If we focus on salvation in the law we fail to have faith in Christ, but if we focus only on salvation in Christ, we fail to see the value of the law.

Clearly, there is a great value in Gods law. No, the law itself can not save us, but only because we can not keep it, but faith in the one who can and did guides us in the law of God, and is a testament to Gods wholly righteousness, our sinful nature and God's Love. Yet, this is not always clear to believers, and because it's not always clear, is also proof of what we are, compared to what God is.

Some want to bask in the mercy of of Christ only, while others feel a need to try and fulfill something they can not, with perhaps a little less understanding that what they may be trying to fulfill has already been fulfilled. And so, we like to argue in the church on these very points when in fact it is both!

We are to be doers of and by the law, but we are not to place our faith in our ability to do so, but in Jesus Christ who has. We can quote scripture all day that seems to suggest one or the other, but we should not forget that, that same scripture, ALL OF IT, is beautifully woven into the tapestry of Gods full word, and contains both.

The warnings we read in the NT, are also not leveled at just people who focus heavily on faith and light on works, but also the heavy of works and light on faith. We should not discount the law, or Christ, or swap one for the other. Both are equally important to our salvation, our growth, and our relationship with God. You can not have one without the other.
 
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