The Spirit told me about the candle under the bushel, in relation to your POV.
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Why the Law
ezrider
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Which Spirit? Was it the Spirit of condemnation because you think I'm not being obedient and hiding my light? Or was it the Spirit of exhortation because you wished to hear more of my thoughts, and you think I'm hiding something you wish to hear?
Does the light shine upon those who can not see, or those who love the darkness more than the light?
ezrider
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It is written in the scripture that Jesus said do not cast your pearls before the swine. But the Lord said unto me, if you do not cast your pearls before the swine, then how shall the prodigal son find his pearl of great price?
To which do you think I should I follow: the words of the book or the voice of the Spirit?
Adoration
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This is the most wonderful explanation of being a born again Christian that I have ever heard.
Adoration
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This is so exciting to a believer.... the fact that we are so dearly loved and cherished that we have only to dwell on and saturate ourselves in the PROMISES of the Father... You are describing the BEGINNING of a love relationship and that my friends is what is required of us. God does not desire our sacrifice.... that was JESUS.... He requires/desires our LOVE and DEVOTION. THIS is where it all starts....
Law = obedience out of fear and duty
Love= sweet surrender and heart felt devotion
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The Spirit given by God for having repented of sin permanently...as promised by Peter in Acts 2:38.
I'm not familiar with that spirit.
Where is it written of?
As I can't "hear" your "thoughts" from my computer, it kinds rules out that spirit.
As you profess to be a Christian, I would not conclude that you would hide anything from another Christian.
The light is available to all men.
God is light. (1 John 1:5)
I was able to perceive it when I "turned from" sin and unto God. (Acts 26:18)
Glory be to God !
You are saying the Lord denied Himself.
Follow the words written by Godly men inspired by God Himself.
What you "heard" was contradictory to what is written.
ezrider
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Wow! What a revelation. Do you think that I am not aware of this fact? Are you the judge of the God?
Did you consider the question? Why didn't you give an answer to it? You only want to defend the words of the book.
Can you please give an answer to this question? If you do not cast your pearls before the swine, then how shall the prodigal son find his pearl of great price?
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Apparently you are not, or would not have mentioned it.
Nope.
Why consider the unGodly?
Besides the fact that you are mixing two different metaphors, it isn't swine that "I" cast my pearls before.
Prodigal sons have already heard the pearls and have turned from them.
Please explain why you listened to the unGodly voices you heard instead of adhering to what is written?
ezrider
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Why do you consider the word of God ungodly? You claim to hear, but you do not listen, nor do you consider.
You are familiar with this promise? No?
If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
But you think the voice I listen to is unGodly, the voice that answered a question about casting my pearls before the swine, as it is written, answered with a question that called to my remembrance the parables of the kingdom spoken of by Jesus and recorded in the words of the book for us. The parable of the prodigal son, the parable of the pearl of great price, and the parable of the hidden treasure the man finds in the field. Each of these parables called to my remembrance in considering casting my pearls before the swine.
What the Lord showed me is it wasn't about the swine, it was about the pearl. If I did not cast my pearl before the swine and allow them to trample it afoot, then the pearl would not be there for another to find. What I share with you here, you trample it afoot and call it unGodly. But I do not share it for your sake, for the same voice of the Spirit that you call unGodly would also call to my remembrance the words of Jesus who said be ye perfect as my Father in Heaven is perfect, who causes it to rain on the just and the unjust alike.
Seeing that you only seem to accept the words of the book, then I will leave you with the words of the book for your own admonishment.
Mark 3:28-30
Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
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I don't, so that is a strawman argument.
Yes, I do.
I wish I had been there so I could have heard it first-hand.
You are using the words of Jesus Christ to refute words by Jesus Christ.
That isn't of God.
OK.
I accept the word of God, written in a bible.
How long have you been a non-sinner?
ezrider
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Good for you. Now when you learn of Faith, you can get back to me. But until then, you are right, I should no longer cast my pearls before you and allow you to trample them under foot. You have shown yourself, and Jesus said not to cast your pearls before the swine. It's written in the bible.
“If you love Me, keep My commandments. John 14:15
- Love = Keeping His commandments
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 1 John 5:2
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3
Question:
If we desire to have our neighbors things (covetousness) or steal from our neighbor or commit adultery with our neighbors spouse, is that loving our neighbor or hating our neighbor?
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
1 John 4:20-21
- this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
JLB
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JLB .... I come from a family of religious law keepers.... I call them legalists.... because they operate and live in the mindset of things one must and must not do... they are some of the most judgemental people I know... and it is painful to be around them... so I stay away.
I have found that there appear to be two types of Christians ( for lack of a better separation )... there are those who serve God out of fear of going to hell.... and then there are those who REST in the promises of Christ.... they act and feel like CHILDREN... and they are confident that they are loved.... this produces a "condition of the heart" that can never be acquired by those who simply keep the law.
I choose to believe that I am eternally secure because JESUS paid the price for my sins... once and for all... MY offering back to HIM is to love Him with my whole heart... mind and will.
I thought I explained it properly when I posted.... I am not suggesting that it is ok to sin.... I don't know why this always seems to get brought up.... It is about relationship... not behaviour... Of course it is NOT ok to sin... but when one focuses on the Majesty of God... and spends their day in Worship.... SIN does not even come near them. You cannot worship God.... meditate on God... praise God and sin. So yeah... it goes without saying.... those who love HIM will obey His commandments.
I have found that there appear to be two types of Christians ( for lack of a better separation )... there are those who serve God out of fear of going to hell.... and then there are those who REST in the promises of Christ.... they act and feel like CHILDREN... and they are confident that they are loved.... this produces a "condition of the heart" that can never be acquired by those who simply keep the law.
I choose to believe that I am eternally secure because JESUS paid the price for my sins... once and for all... MY offering back to HIM is to love Him with my whole heart... mind and will.
I thought I explained it properly when I posted.... I am not suggesting that it is ok to sin.... I don't know why this always seems to get brought up.... It is about relationship... not behaviour... Of course it is NOT ok to sin... but when one focuses on the Majesty of God... and spends their day in Worship.... SIN does not even come near them. You cannot worship God.... meditate on God... praise God and sin. So yeah... it goes without saying.... those who love HIM will obey His commandments.
How will I ever find that "pearl of great price" if you abandon me?
Wasn't that what the "voice" said you were not to do?
ezrider
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You have the words of the book. Go and study harder!
No. Now go read the your book! When you learn of Faith, get back to me. Until then, I have nothing for you. Now get behind me!
If they are pushing people to keep the law of Moses then you need to be concerned.
If they are wanting people to walk in love, and not sin, then you should listen to their advice.
What we think love is, and what God sees love is, could be two completely different things.
Question:
- If we desire to have our neighbors things (covetousness) or steal from our neighbor or commit adultery with our neighbors spouse, is that loving our neighbor or hating our neighbor?
Please consider the verses I have already posted, as I don’t want to keep repeating them.
We tend to have a “knee jerk” reaction when we here the word “law”.
There are several places n the New Testament where the word “law” is used, and most people lump the word “law” into one category to mean the same thing, and it’s bad.
Laws are good, whether the laws that discourage criminals from murdering and raping and robbing people, or the law of gravity that keeps everything from floating off into space. Laws are good.
The law of Christ is good.
Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Galatians 6:2
God desires for us to keep His laws and commandments that He has written on our heart, by the power of the Spirit. This is the New Covenant promise.
Abraham was called a friend of God, and had this testimony from the Lord about his life.
Dwell in this land, and I will be with you and bless you; for to you and your descendants I give all these lands, and I will perform the oath which I swore to Abraham your father. And I will make your descendants multiply as the stars of heaven; I will give to your descendants all these lands; and in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”
Genesis 26:3-5
- because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.
And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. Galatians 3:8-9
JLB
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Why don't you just answer a question once in a while?
As I have no idea where you are, I can't "get behind you".
Adoration
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JLB ... I read your post and I don't think there is much I can say to you. I am a Grace gal... I don't live my life in the
mindset of following laws. I rest in the promises of God... I meditate on God's MAJESTY... I am in AWE of HIM... I praise HIM for everything HE DOES. I THANK HIM daily... and I WORSHIP HIM.... This keeps my mind busy all day.
I have had many conversations with those whom I refer to as legalists and their entire focus is being good and doing good....they are very judgemental and just not nice people to be with. I have not noticed much LOVE in their attitudes or their behaviours.
I am all for OBEYING CHRIST... but not impressed with HOW people are reflecting that.
Just my opinion.
mindset of following laws. I rest in the promises of God... I meditate on God's MAJESTY... I am in AWE of HIM... I praise HIM for everything HE DOES. I THANK HIM daily... and I WORSHIP HIM.... This keeps my mind busy all day.
I have had many conversations with those whom I refer to as legalists and their entire focus is being good and doing good....they are very judgemental and just not nice people to be with. I have not noticed much LOVE in their attitudes or their behaviours.
I am all for OBEYING CHRIST... but not impressed with HOW people are reflecting that.
Just my opinion.
I am definitely a grace dude. Without grace, I could never obey God.
Do you understand what grace is?
Grace is the God given ability to do what we can not do, without it; grace is the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of grace.
Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:29
The Spirit of grace is also the Spirit of truth.
Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
The Spirit is not going to lead you contrary, to God’s will.
JLB