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IS GOD STILL SOVEREIGN?
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nope we was created to have free will. peter wrote he has given us all things His divine power has given us everything required for life and godliness through the knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness. the rest is up to us. just like stay at home order. it goes out monday.but the bigger city next to us. is full of people . they dont listen ..sometimes neither do we
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imo he is as sovereign as it gets..were the problem
GodsGrace
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Some believe that God, being a Sovereign God, must control everything...
this is determinism, or predestination.
They believe that if God is NOT in complete control of EVERYTHING,
then He would not be a Sovereign God.
What is a defense against this?
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he does have control we dont understand his ways proverbs 3
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.
8 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.
the things in Bold can be a big task
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it dont matter what they say. what does the word say ?
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Why do the arminists have a problem with that ?
God Alllows free will to deny him.
I can't allow something like only he can .God allows sin ,and at He leisure he will end sin once in the judgement ,he gave man space to repent ,
These speak of control to me .
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i dont know of any personally that do .
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i know what it says this is another thread for personal gain .i cant change reformed believers nor more than they can change me . it mazes me how so have to keep the flame burning . my doctrine is more correct than yours . for anyone to say God is not sovereign needs read the Bible the word sovereign is not even in the Bible ,but the defeintion is shown in scripture
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yes he did a good friend bro in the Lord passed this morning. he had been battling infection in his foot and leg . we prayed together when he was first in the hospital . he words when he said he was coming home. appreciate your concern it will be ok just tired . every thing from his 2nd coming to our salvation to our death is all in his hands . i have seen spiritual miscarriages at the altar God was not in it
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I am not reformed but I do understand the concept of Calvin on free will.
God being outside of time already knows our life,from birth and death .
This argument is really over how God moves in something he created .how God moves to save man and deals with the lost,the devil.
Nothing we can do is gonna surprise God ,one argues that man has a will ,the other says it limited by God ,and interpreted as God has no will .thus side also sees that man and God aren't equal to each other while claiming Arminism does.
Man wants to live forever ,God doesn't have desire that for he is eternal timeless ,limitless
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Wondering face death numerous times and have God tell you its not your time and then tell me God doesn't determine the time and steps of your life .he allows us to fail ,to walk away ,he lets us ,gasp self destruct ,not wanting any to be lost but allows men to choose Satan ,he has the ability ti turn us back if we listen
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“if“ is the key word.
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wondering,
What is your definition of sovereignty as it applies to an attribute of God?
Oz
GodsGrace
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Sovereignty would be like an earthly King.
It means that God rules over everything...He has the power to do as He wishes.
But I do NOT believe this removes our free will.
As far as I can understand,,,the very fact that God has given us Free Will is indicative of the fact that He is so sovereign that He does not FEAR giving us free will.
I believe that those that think God loses Sovereignty by giving us free will understand Him to be a weak God that cannot even handle that.
To me God is More Sovereign (if that could be possible) precisely because of our Free Will.
