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Resurrection of Righteous and Unrighteous
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Elvispelvis
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There are different classes of people at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
Remember the story of the sheep and the goats at the Judgment.
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
The sheep followed Yeshua the goats made up their own religion or opposed God some way.
Pharaoh will be resurrected as a example of the unrighteous . Caiaphas the evil priest Herod the evil King
and so on.
Remember the story of the sheep and the goats at the Judgment.
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
The sheep followed Yeshua the goats made up their own religion or opposed God some way.
Pharaoh will be resurrected as a example of the unrighteous . Caiaphas the evil priest Herod the evil King
and so on.
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Paul 'gamed' or 'played' them into their own divisions and was thereby able to walk out. Jesus did the same in 2 or 3 instances.
These are spiritual matters.
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Strangelove
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I guess He'll have to seperate you in half then smallville?
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Ah, a hint of the wisdom of Solomon. Congratulations. Giving credit where credit is due.
The separation of the sheep and the goats will transpire IN THE SAME BODY.
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Theofilus
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And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. (Rev. 20:4-5)
The righteous will be resurrected when Jesus returns. The unrighteous will be resurrected after Christ has reigned for 1000 years.
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Men who look at nations of flesh will never perceive nations of goats.
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Strangelove
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So am I correct in saying that you think a single man, even a believer, can be both unrighteous and righteous at the same time?
doc.
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There is no such thing.
Just say you don't do 'goat works' and we'll both see who is speaking the truth and who is lying.
Here is my mark of truth....
I assuredly do goat works.
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Strangelove
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Right so seeing as you recognise the truth that a man cannot be both righteous and unrightousnes at the same time (supported by clear scripture) could I ask why that is your reasoning if you think that man can have both light and darkness in him, Christ and antichrist, Satan and the Holy Spirit in him simultaneously? Things that are refuted by clear scripture.
As for "Goat Works"...this is not a scriptural term. So I can most assuredly say I do not do goat works. It sounds like Satan Worship. Can you clarify please. If you are asking if I sin....then...yes....I am definately a sinner. And sin is OF the devil...because the devil is OUT there tempting.
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Elijah674
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Both are promised an resurection, just not at the same time. One is called the First Resurection when Christ comes again He brings His reward with Him, Eternal Life or to come up in the Secord resurection to die the Eternal second death. The resurections of the saved come 1000 years apart from the wicked. All the wicked will be DEAD when Christ comes again. They will be judged according to record books during the 1000 years, & them will be resurected to die the punishment stage of death according to their evil works. Which means that some will take a lot longer to die. See Luke 12:47-48 The saved will take part in this stage of judgement. (1 Cor. 6:2-3)
--Elijah
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Oh please. Let's have just a shred of honesty in these matters.
Do you ALWAYS feed the poor? Do you ALWAYS do the 'works' depicted in Matt. 25?
DO YOU NEVER SIN?
If you say yes, I would simply say you are quite deceived.
Faith has not called me into dishonesty. Sorry.
Yeah, that is what ALL goats say.
The DIVISION will be 'IN THE MIDST' of every person. That is where THE SWORD of THE WORD is THRUST.
Zechariah 14:1
Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
enjoy!
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Strangelove
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I wish we could have a shred of sanity and clarity in your mixed up theosophy. Your an ocean of contradiction. I asked if a man can be both Righteous and Unrighteous.....and you say: 'There can be no such thing'. And when I clarify this in my first sentence you whirl off into your sea of incongruity by blathering on with the following broken record statements regarding **yawn** your never ending mission to convince yourself that every other Christian on Earth regards themselves as non-sinners:
.....which questions, as you have doubtless noticed, I answered in the very same post you are quoting from....(except you forgot to bold the relevant statement coz it doesnt fit your daily misrepresentation agenda).
Namely the statement:
strangelove said:
Another demonstration of your selective / partial vision.
Alas....you have been called to dishonesty...almost every day you will bear false witness or completely misrepresent someones position in order to fulfill your fleshy lustful desires to attack them.
This is dishonesty of the highest order...and I see today is no different. You are, without doubt...the most dishonest person on these boards and there are probably at least 10 people here that would openly testify to this fact.
Can someone be a sheep and a goat at the same time?
Do you do 'goat works'...?...?......whatever that means.
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Elijah674
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Notice the Word of the unrightous! They come up in their resurection the very same way that they entered death!
When Christ comes the rightous dead have the FIRST Resurection Rev. 20:6
And the wicked dead have their resurection in verse 5. (the number 6 uninspired man has in the wrong place!)
Regardless, the wicked ones resurected at the end of the 1000 years will die the Second Eternal Obad. 1:16 DEATH. The were judged LOST when Christ came, yet they will be EXECUTED according to the 1000 year judgement of their Record Books. Even see 1 Cor. 6:2-3 for who will take part in this stage of their judgement.
--Elijah
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I snipped out this part of your quote for further explanation.
If only the righteous are alive when Christ returns, then do some of the righteous turn wicked during the 1000 years and gather with Satan against Christ when he is released after the 1000 years?
Or are you suggesting that after the 1000 years, when Satan is released, that the wicked are resurrected at that time, and it is the resurrected wicked that Satan gathers against Christ?
Explain this further.
If only the righteous are alive when Christ returns, then do some of the righteous turn wicked during the 1000 years and gather with Satan against Christ when he is released after the 1000 years?
Or are you suggesting that after the 1000 years, when Satan is released, that the wicked are resurrected at that time, and it is the resurrected wicked that Satan gathers against Christ?
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Elijah674
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2Thes.2
[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (666)
[5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8] [[And then]] shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
(and the Broadway of Matt. 7 + the Rev. 17:1---5! RECEIVED What?
Gen. 3 with satan's calling God a LIAR + his, satans sunworship stuff)
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
--Elijah
[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (666)
[5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8] [[And then]] shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
(and the Broadway of Matt. 7 + the Rev. 17:1---5! RECEIVED What?
Gen. 3 with satan's calling God a LIAR + his, satans sunworship stuff)
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
--Elijah
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Elijah674
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Hi Sis.., yes, this is the way that I see it. You ask..
'Or are you suggesting that after the 1000 years, when Satan is released, that the wicked are resurrected at that time, and it is the resurrected wicked that Satan gathers against Christ?'
I believe Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 documents this 1000 years as an 'bottomless pit' repeat as seen in Jer. 4:23-27 states, with verse 27 having the rightous saved at Christ Second Coming. (note Rev. 22:12) And these saved ones will be in the Judgement of all of the evil dead ones. 1 Cor. 6:2-3. And the only thing being considered is the Executional length of their sentence. (Luke 12:47-48)
--Elijah
'Or are you suggesting that after the 1000 years, when Satan is released, that the wicked are resurrected at that time, and it is the resurrected wicked that Satan gathers against Christ?'
I believe Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 documents this 1000 years as an 'bottomless pit' repeat as seen in Jer. 4:23-27 states, with verse 27 having the rightous saved at Christ Second Coming. (note Rev. 22:12) And these saved ones will be in the Judgement of all of the evil dead ones. 1 Cor. 6:2-3. And the only thing being considered is the Executional length of their sentence. (Luke 12:47-48)
--Elijah
