Contradicting Beliefs

[reba]

legalism. Not doing as the bible says is called UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. Can you
show
me just one example where someone in the bible was condemned by God
for exactly
doing as God said?
I will show you examples where God
punished people for
NOT doing exactly as he said

That is not my words but yours

 

[reba]

Jason Jackson words but not those of the Psalmist ? Shows where your loyalties are .

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

That is not my words but yours

You have yet to prove those scriptures say what you think they say. Until you provide proof, you have no argument.


You claim those verses in Acts means that the Christian is to sell all his possessions. If that's the case then:

1) are you a Christian? If so,

2) have you sold all your possessions?

3)If not, why?

4)do those verses just apply to others and not yourself?

5) or does the bible not apply to anyone today?

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

Jason Jackson words but not those of the Psalmist ? Shows where your loyalties are .

I will take Jason Jackson's correct interpretation of those verses in Acts over your mis-interpretation.


Again, do you have any possessions you have not sold?

 

[reba]

I will take Jason Jackson's correct interpretation of those verses in Acts over your mis-interpretation.


Again, do you have any possessions you have not sold?

I don't have a problem saying yes to your question I have stuff I have not sold.... Home car computer personal belongings....

Again I see you using the word legalistic.
Going strickly and exactly as the
bible says is not legalistic but the bible
calls that doing
RIGHTEOUSNESS




- not
legalism. Not doing as the bible says is called UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
Can you show
me just one example where someone in the bible was condemned by God for exactly
doing as God said?
I will show you examples
where God punished people for
NOT doing exactly as he said

Does not surprise me cofC changes with the wind....

I don't hold to the legalistic view of IM send a person to hell the CofC does. As has been so plainly shown here in these forums cofC holds double standards. They hold to strict interpretation when they choose and discount other verses at will.

 

[reba]

I will take Jason Jackson's correct interpretation of those verses in Acts over your mis-interpretation.


Again, do you have any possessions you have not sold?

Doesn't the cofC only listen to God/Christ ? The inconsistency is showing

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

Doesn't the cofC only listen to God/Christ ? The inconsistency is showing

Listen to Christ, Paul, Peter and other inspired NT writers. All those NT writers were inspired by God so listening to them is the same as listening to God. Jason Jackson was 'teaching/preaching' what Acts 2 and 4 says as disciples have been sent forth to teach unto all the world, every creature.

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

I don't have a problem saying yes to your question I have stuff I have not sold.... Home car computer personal belongings....

So you are admitting you are not following YOUR own interpretation of those verses yet accuse those in the church of Christ of not following YOUR interpretation. So why is it you supposedly do not have to sell all your possesssions (according to YOUR interpretation) yet it's wrong for those in the church of Christ (and possible others) for not selling all their possessions? Double standard?

Does not surprise me cofC changes with the wind....

I don't hold to the legalistic view of IM send a person to hell the CofC does. As has been so plainly shown here in these forums cofC holds double standards. They hold to strict interpretation when they choose and discount other verses at will.

Can one disobey God and still be saved?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Ernest this is a serious question since I am following this thread and I don't quite understand.
I am not part of the Church of Christ nor do I agree with you in this thread.
Does that mean I am going hell when I die?

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

Ernest this is a serious question since I am following this thread and I don't quite understand.
I am not part of the Church of Christ nor do I agree with you in this thread.
Does that mean I am going hell when I die?

The bible says Christ built His own church, He said "MY church", Mt 16:18, and the church is the body, Col 1:18, there is one body, Eph 4:4 and Christ is the Saviour of that one body, Eph 5:23. So no one outside that one body can be saved for Christ is the Saviour of His one body and no other bodies.

It was not my intent in this thread to point who is or is not in that one body, but to point out there are thousands of religious groups but the bible says there is one body and that thousands do not equal 1. So only one out of thousnads varying groups can be that one church, one body. Nowhere does the bible teach that Christ established thousands of different churches with different, contradicting doctrines. All these groups may claim they are that one body but it is no way possible all can be that one body.

 

[Knotical]

Ernest this is a serious question since I am following this thread and I don't quite understand.
I am not part of the Church of Christ nor do I agree with you in this thread.
Does that mean I am going hell when I die?

In essence, allenwynne, what Ernest is saying is, yes, that is what he believes, he just won't come out and say it.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Okay, it was not your intent.
Now will you answer my question?

 

[ezra]

i have a serious question Ernest would the c o c allow a baptist to preach in their pulpit? if not why? if you will answer i will give my follow up..

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

Okay, it was not your intent.
Now will you answer my question?

What I said in my last post to you is that Christ established just one church, one body and He is the Saviour of that one body. So if you, me or anyone else are not part of that one church then we will not be saved.

Now compare the fact Christ established one church but there are thousands of religious organizations. Christ did not establish thousands of religious organizations and therefore is not the Saviour of thousands of varying religious organizations.

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

i have a serious question Ernest would the c o c allow a baptist to preach in their pulpit? if not why? if you will answer i will give my follow up..

Not where I attend. Why would we want a Baptist preacher preaching to us?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

well,what's the difference between one church and thousands of religious organizations?
I don't see how they go together.
And you've already said all this I don't know how many times.
I assume by your answer that we can be saved without believing what the Church of Christ believes.

 

[ezra]

Not where I attend. Why would we want a Baptist preacher preaching to us?

your right you helped prove my point... no doubt we should guard the pulpit ..but in most cases the only thing guarded is man made doctrine..... my self i will not attend a service where it has to be there flavor and there flavor only . i am not afraid of out side ministry.. you been taught c o c is the only way.

 

[ezra]

Now compare the fact Christ established one church but there are thousands of religious organizations. Christ did not establish thousands of religious organizations and therefore is not the Saviour of thousands of varying religious organizations.

can you say beyond a shadow of doubt co c is the established church?

 

[reba]

So you are admitting you are not following YOUR own interpretation of those verses yet accuse those in the church of Christ of not following YOUR interpretation. So why is it you supposedly do not have to sell all your possesssions (according to YOUR interpretation) yet it's wrong for those in the church of Christ (and possible others) for not selling all their possessions? Double standard?

I posted the verses and ask if you complied.... again your own words...

Again I see you using the word legalistic. Going strickly and
exactly as the bible says is not legalistic but the bible calls that doing
RIGHTEOUSNESS - not
legalism. Not doing
as the bible says is called UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
Can you show me just one
example where someone in the bible was condemned by God for exactly doing
as God said?
I will show you examples where God punished people for NOT
doing exactly as he said

 

[reba]

What I said in my last post to you is that Christ established just one church, one body and He is the Saviour of that one body. So if you, me or anyone else are not part of that one church then we will not be saved.

Now compare the fact Christ established one church but there are thousands of religious organizations. Christ did not establish thousands of religious organizations and therefore is not the Saviour of thousands of varying religious organizations.

Act_9:31 Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

Act_15:41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, confirming the churches.

Act_16:5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.


Rom_16:4 Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.

Rom_16:16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.

1Co_7:17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.

1Co_11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

1Co_14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1Co_16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

1Co_16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

2Co_8:1 Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia;

2Co_8:18 And we have sent with him the brother, whose praise is in the gospel throughout all the churches;

2Co_8:19 And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:

2Co_8:23 Whether any do enquire of Titus, he is my partner and fellowhelper concerning you: or our brethren be enquired of, they are the messengers of the churches, and the glory of Christ.

2Co_8:24 Wherefore shew ye to them, and before the churches, the proof of your love, and of our boasting on your behalf.

2Co_11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

2Co_11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.

2Co_12:13 For what is it wherein ye were inferior to other churches, except it be that I myself was not burdensome to you? forgive me this wrong.

Gal_1:2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

Gal_1:22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:

1Th_2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

2Th_1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:

Rev_1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Rev_1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and senditunto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Rev_1:20The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Rev_2:7He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Rev_2:11He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Rev_2:17He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receivethit.

Rev_2:23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Rev_2:29He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:6He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:13He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_22:16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David,andthe bright and morning star.