Rajesh Sahu
2024 Supporter
Maria , I was once invited to a Californian Church to hear out an incredibly brilliant teacher from India, who had exceptional teaching and oratory skills who was going to be the guest speaker at the Church. The excitement to hear that man out was incredible. Curious to know what he would teach I went to that Christian Church. Plus the people who had invited me were very kind people. Couldn't say no. That guy was indeed a brilliant orator. He knew when to increase and decrease the pitch. Plus he had vast knowledge of the scripture as he heaped verses after verses upon the audience-- us. Here is where the good stops. That man, in my opinion, was thundering at the pulpit ONLY to USE verses for the audience to DONATE generously, magnanimously, freely to his organization.... all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I was utterly shocked by this disgraceful act. But the funny thing is the thousand-odd people sitting there believed everything that man was saying as scriptural, because it was. they FAILED to see that those parts of scriptures were being used which would help this man glorify himself and get his mission accomplished --- walk away with loads of money----- which he did. When he had delivered the "powerful message" he took cash, checks and even credit cards! and walked away with lots of money from the "awe-inspired crowd" who were cheering him wildly when he walked off with the " booty"Here is the poll question.
Can a born again Christian reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and still be saved.
You answered yes.
My question was Why do you believe a born again Christian can reject Jesus Christ and still be saved?
Then why did you answer yes?
What makes you think a born again Christian, could never turn to the antichrist and take his mark, and worship him?
Is their something stopping him from doing this?
9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Revelation 14:9-12
If they weren't born again, then the question doesn't apply to them.
Then they are not born again, and this doesn't apply to them.
ME
See guys I'm NOT here to criticize the man( false prophet?). I'm just answering the question..... WILL THIS MAN BE JUDGED or SAVED for his faith? and beyond faith, he was a pastor and a teacher! see friends easy believism doctrine is fraught with danger--- a wolf in the garb of a sheep came and ravaged the people, who had no doubt that this man was saved because he believed. had they been taught what James taught that ( James 2: 14-22) that Faith without works is dead--- no salvation without obedience, I'm confident this man would have been questioned/ grilled by the audience. But nobody asked anything. They were too scared to. they all believed and so did this man. everyone believed and would allbe going to heaven. 'Why should we say or ask anything?"
Summarizing my answer, I strongly believe all the "saved" ones who serve the enemy rather than the Lord in spite of being believers risk losing their salvation "
This is why James writes ( James 2: 14-22) that Faith without works is dead
14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food,16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good[a] is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works
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