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God's Great Free Gift of Salvation for Everyone

Iconoclast said:
Try and learn something before inventing your false descriptions.
The "plain english" is not correct as it was written in Greek.

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Whosoever means, all, anyone, everyone. If you say that whosoever are believers, then you have changed the word "whosoever" to mean believers only, which is not correct. The word "whosoever" is a big problem for Calvinist, because it tells us that "God so loved the world (whosoever) that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever (anyone, everyone) that believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16.
 
Iconoclast said:
Try and learn something before inventing your false descriptions.
The "plain english" is not correct as it was written in Greek.

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This is what I mean about how dishonest calvinists are.
You post some reformed translator and expect me to read it or believe it??
No thanks.
I'll stick to mainline Christianity.
You think all those John 3,16 signs at football games are by prideful persons that are declaring they're saved?
Or maybe they're Christians being evangelical like Jesus told us to do?
Matthew 28,19....
 
Iconoclast said:
So now you deny scripture again, and have people electing themselves,lol..yeah, we hear you :hysterical
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This is why I can't speak to you seriously.

I'd tremble.
To be before God at the judgment and know how I changed Him from a loving God into Your God that has no love in Him.
 
Iconoclast said:
Jesus describes that everyone believing, everyone believing one has eternal life.
That is what the Greek says.
It was not written in plain English as you say,but Greek as Jesus said
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Jesus spoke Greek?
Are you sure?
Could you explain this better?
 
jaybo said:
Jesus was a rural tradesperson who spoke Aramaic.
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Correct.
Also He lived in Nazareth which was close to a trade route just south of it.

Greek was the language of the times, like English is today, so Jesus probably knew some Greek but not much, living near this route.
 
wondering said:
Correct.
Also He lived in Nazareth which was close to a trade route just south of it.

Greek was the language of the times, like English is today, so Jesus probably knew some Greek but not much, living near this route.
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Koine Greek was the common "lingua franca" of the Mediterranean world during Jesus' time.

BTW, our family has returned to Firenze. We had a very nice time with them.
 
wondering said:
James White.
I mean, are you for real?

You're too much.
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James white totally shreds any of the nonsense that you and your cronies put up. Again you cannot answer it So you think By offering a personal attack you can dismiss his scholarship yeah think again
 
Iconoclast said:
James white totally shreds any of the nonsense that you and your cronies put up. Again you cannot answer it So you think By offering a personal attack you can dismiss his scholarship yeah think again
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What personal attack?
I think James White doesn't make logical sense.
Stay tuned...
 
wondering said:
This is what I mean about how dishonest calvinists are.
You post some reformed translator and expect me to read it or believe it??
No thanks.
I'll stick to mainline Christianity.
You think all those John 3,16 signs at football games are by prideful persons that are declaring they're saved?
Or maybe they're Christians being evangelical like Jesus told us to do?
Matthew 28,19....
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You turn from light to darkness once again
 
The focus is on believes.
It is everyone believing.
You hate the biblical doctrine of election.
The believing church loves it.
 
God invited the people to the wedding and those that God first invited where at that time His chosen people. They "refused" the invitation and persecuted and harmed those God sent out with His invitation. Jesus often desired to gather the people together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings. They were unwilling and would not let Him do what Jesus Himself stated He often desired to do.

So God sent out His invitation to all nations.

Its not God keeping people from receiving His invitation for His will and Jesus's will stated otherwise. So a enemy of His must be involved in unbelief and leading people to do evil. We know who sows the weeds.
 
Randy said:
God invited the people to the wedding and those that God first invited where at that time His chosen people. They "refused" the invitation and persecuted and harmed those God sent out with His invitation. Jesus often desired to gather the people together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings. They were unwilling and would not let Him do what Jesus Himself stated He often desired to do.

So God sent out His invitation to all nations.

Its not God keeping people from receiving His invitation for His will and Jesus's will stated otherwise. So a enemy of His must be involved in unbelief and leading people to do evil. We know who sows the weeds.
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Romans 11:25-27, " I want you to understand this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not claim to be wiser than you are: a hardening has come upon part of Israel until the full number of the gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,

“Out of Zion will come the Deliverer;
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob.”
“And this is my covenant with them,
when I take away their sins.”

So much for your antiSemitism.
 
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