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electedbyhim said:
Dr White is on point, these people will never understand.
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Just to show how deluded and unlearned they are,one said he was trying to avoid the whosoever,lol, then the orher tried to dismiss him as if he is not known internationally...they were going to correct him:nono
 
Iconoclast said:
The focus is on believes.
It is everyone believing.
You hate the biblical doctrine of election.
The believing church loves it.
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The only election that matters is that God elected Jesus to be the savior of the whole world, John 3:17

God does not elect individuals, because God is no respecter of persons, Acts 10:34.
 
Robert Pate said:
The only election that matters is that God elected Jesus to be the savior of the whole world, John 3:17

God does not elect individuals, because God is no respecter of persons, Acts 10:34.
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Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; 30 and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.


Ephesians 1:4-5 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, 5 by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
 
Robert Pate said:
The only election that matters is that God elected Jesus to be the savior of the whole world, John 3:17

God does not elect individuals, because God is no respecter of persons, Acts 10:34.
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a) Jesus was not elected.
b) If, according to you, God "elected" Jesus and "God does not elect individuals" then what was Jesus?
 
electedbyhim said:
Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; 30 and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.


Ephesians 1:4-5 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, 5 by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
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Thank you for posting this. It shows how wrong Robert Pate is.
 
jaybo said:
Thank you for posting this. It shows how wrong Robert Pate is.
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Not many people acknowledge this doctrine.

They say it is not Biblical.

But it everywhere in the Bible, I do not understand that thought process.

Grace and peace to you.
 
jaybo said:
a) Jesus was not elected.
b) If, according to you, God "elected" Jesus and "God does not elect individuals" then what was Jesus?
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Everything that God does he does corporately. Not individually. This is why he is no respecter of persons.
 
jaybo said:
Thank you for posting this. It shows how wrong Robert Pate is.
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There is no scripture in the Bible that says God predestinates people to heaven or to hell. If there is show it to me.
 
Robert Pate said:
There is no scripture in the Bible that says God predestinates people to heaven or to hell. If there is show it to me.
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All humanity is on their way to hell unless regenerated. Never said God sends anyone to hell.


Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; 30 and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.


Ephesians 1:4-5 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, 5 by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
 

Robert Pate​


Here is the Biblical proof you wanted

Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; 30 and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.


Ephesians 1:4-5 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, 5 by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
 
electedbyhim said:
All humanity is on their way to hell unless regenerated. Never said God sends anyone to hell.


Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; 30 and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.


Ephesians 1:4-5 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, 5 by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
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None of those scriptures say that anyone has been predestinated to heaven or to hell. Those scriptures are also for me who is not a Calvinist.
 
electedbyhim said:

Robert Pate​


Here is the Biblical proof you wanted

Romans 8:29-30 Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers; 30 and those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified; and those whom He justified, He also glorified.


Ephesians 1:4-5 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, 5 by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
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None of those scriptures say that anyone has been predestinated to heaven or to hell. Those scriptures are also for me who is not a Calvinist.
 
Robert Pate said:
Everything that God does he does corporately. Not individually. This is why he is no respecter of persons.
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Perhaps if you didn't rely on the KJV (17th century Englyshe) you might make more sense.

Acts 10:34...
"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons" KJV
"Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism" NIV
"Then Peter began to speak to them: “I truly understand that God shows no partiality," NRSVue

God is not a corporation. The meaning is clear in other translations: God does not show fanoritism..
 
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