That is not an answer to my question: If, according to you, God "elected" Jesus and "God does not elect individuals" then what was Jesus? (According to your logic, Jesus was not an individual)
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God's Great Free Gift of Salvation for Everyone
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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Sorry you saw truth that way. But that wasn't my intent.
Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3 He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.
4 “Then he sent some more servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’
5 “But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6 The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. 7 The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
8 “Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. 9 So go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.’ 10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 12 He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.
13 “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen
If anyone was cut off it was because of their unbelief and it would be God, not me, doing the cutting off.
My intent was to show Gods sincere invitation to all peoples.
acts 1:6
Then they gathered around him and asked him, 'Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?'
We don't know that time or date but we know people are saved by grace through "faith" in Christ Jesus.
One may be offending by that truth but that doesn't make it a lie.
Yes salvation requires faith and God's grace but there are a few more things required of us.
1. Belief and faith
2. Confession of your belief as did the Ethiopian eunuch and consistent with Romans 10:9
3. Repentance as was told the Jews on the day of Pentecost per Acts 2:38
4. Baptism for the remission of sins also per Acts 2:38
1. Belief and faith
2. Confession of your belief as did the Ethiopian eunuch and consistent with Romans 10:9
3. Repentance as was told the Jews on the day of Pentecost per Acts 2:38
4. Baptism for the remission of sins also per Acts 2:38
Robert Pate
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Jesus was born of God, not like us who are born of Adam. Jesus was chosen to be the savior of the world before the foundation of the world.
Robert Pate
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Confession, Repentance, Baptism are things that happen after salvation, not before.
Robert Pate
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Right. God does not prefer one person over another like Calvinist want us to believe. Corporately he provides salvation for the whole world, not for some certain individuals. So that whosoever that calls on his name will be saved, Romans 10:13.
Robert Pate
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They are saying that I am his because I believe.
Ephesians 1:3-5, "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will"
Don't you own a Bible? If you do own one, don't you read it?
You wrote "Everything that God does he does corporately. Not individually. This is why he is no respecter of persons" and used this verse as proof? "Then Peter began to speak to them: “I truly understand that God shows no partiality" ". Are you okay?
Robert Pate
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There is nothing in Ephesians 1:3-5 about anyone being predestinated to heaven or to hell.
The "US" is all of humanity, John 3:16, God so loved the world (All of humanity)
Predestinated to be children of Jesus Christ.
Nothing about being predestinated to heaven or to hell.
Robert Pate
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God does not chose individuals to be saved.
Gods written word has proven you wrong multiple times.
You just do not want to see it or are blind to it.
Simply your incorrect opinion. I believe Scripture, not you. (And the word is "predestined", not "predestinated").
Ephesians 1:3-6, "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love. He destined us for adoption as his [God's] children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace that he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.
And you're making an error about John 3:16. Here it is in its entirety: “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life."
And nobody is predestined to be a child of Jesus Christ! That is a serious error. We are brothers and sisters of Christ and members of His body. We are predestined to be children of God.
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
Robert Pate
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If God chose some to be saved and some to be lost that would make him unjust. Calvinism is self-defeating. If you believe Calvinist doctrine, then you must believe that God is an unjust tyrant that delights in sending people to hell. Calvinism is wrong view of the nature and character of God. Worse yet, they believe that Jesus did not atone for the sins of the whole world, which makes him a failure. Jesus was victorious over all things and now sits in heaven as the "King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16.
There is such a thing as saving faith, Calvinist do not have it.
There is such a thing as saving faith, Calvinist do not have it.
Who are you to judge God??? God acts as He chooses (even if you don't like it).
Writing "If you believe Calvinist doctrine, then you must believe that God is an unjust tyrant that delights in sending people to hell" is sheer nonsense. John Calvin never called God "an unjust tyrant".
You are correct, but many on this site believe that those who are under the Reformed doctrine are serving a monster, an unloving God.
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
God's saving love is everywhere.
Maybe in your mind it is everywhere but in The Bible It's in Christ in The Bible
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
In the bible, God's loving grace is upon all men.
God showed His love for us BEFORE Jesus was born.
Jesus is a part of God,,,if HE loves, God loves.
I'm serious...
you should find out about Divine Simplicity.
I think it would be very helpful for you.