How the Law and the Commandments Promotes Sin

[Tempo]

Apparently you're not familiar with the Bible or you're just ignoring part of it. Sacrifices were required for all sins, intentional or not.

>>>If I agree with you, can you show me how to atone for: Adultery, theft, killing, violating the sabbath and cursing your parents?
Can you show only ONE single verse, how sacrifices apply to these major, intentional sins?

 

[jaybo]

>>>If I agree with you, can you show me how to atone for: Adultery, theft, killing, violating the sabbath and cursing your parents?
Can you show only ONE single verse, how sacrifices apply to these major, intentional sins?

Leviticus 4 lists the sacrifices required for sins...

"The Lord said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites: ‘When anyone sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands—

“‘If the anointed priest sins, bringing guilt on the people, he must bring to the Lord a young bull without defect as a sin offering for the sin he has committed. He is to present the bull at the entrance to the tent of meeting before the Lord. He is to lay his hand on its head and slaughter it there before the Lord. Then the anointed priest shall take some of the bull’s blood and carry it into the tent of meeting. He is to dip his finger into the blood and sprinkle some of it seven times before the Lord, in front of the curtain of the sanctuary. The priest shall then put some of the blood on the horns of the altar of fragrant incense that is before the Lord in the tent of meeting. The rest of the bull’s blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar of burnt offering at the entrance to the tent of meeting. He shall remove all the fat from the bull of the sin offering—all the fat that is connected to the internal organs, both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which he will remove with the kidneys— just as the fat is removed from the ox sacrificed as a fellowship offering. Then the priest shall burn them on the altar of burnt offering. But the hide of the bull and all its flesh, as well as the head and legs, the internal organs and the intestines— 1that is, all the rest of the bull—he must take outside the camp to a place ceremonially clean, where the ashes are thrown, and burn it there in a wood fire on the ash heap.

“‘If the whole Israelite community sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands, even though the community is unaware of the matter, when they realize their guilt and the sin they committed becomes known, the assembly must bring a young bull as a sin offering and present it before the tent of meeting. The elders of the community are to lay their hands on the bull’s head before the Lord, and the bull shall be slaughtered before the Lord. Then the anointed priest is to take some of the bull’s blood into the tent of meeting. He shall dip his finger into the blood and sprinkle it before the Lord seven times in front of the curtain. He is to put some of the blood on the horns of the altar that is before the Lord in the tent of meeting. The rest of the blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar of burnt offering at the entrance to the tent of meeting. He shall remove all the fat from it and burn it on the altar,and do with this bull just as he did with the bull for the sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for the community, and they will be forgiven. Then he shall take the bull outside the camp and burn it as he burned the first bull. This is the sin offering for the community.

“‘When a leader sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the commands of the Lord his God, when he realizes his guilt and the sin he has committed becomes known, he must bring as his offering a male goat without defect. He is to lay his hand on the goat’s head and slaughter it at the place where the burnt offering is slaughtered before the Lord. It is a sin offering. Then the priest shall take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering and pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar. He shall burn all the fat on the altar as he burned the fat of the fellowship offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for the leader’s sin, and he will be forgiven.

“‘If any member of the community sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands, when they realize their guilt and the sin they have committed becomes known, they must bring as their offering for the sin they committed a female goat without defect. They are to lay their hand on the head of the sin offering and slaughter it at the place of the burnt offering. Then the priest is to take some of the blood with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering and pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar. They shall remove all the fat, just as the fat is removed from the fellowship offering, and the priest shall burn it on the altar as an aroma pleasing to the Lord. In this way the priest will make atonement for them, and they will be forgiven.

“‘If someone brings a lamb as their sin offering, they are to bring a female without defect. They are to lay their hand on its head and slaughter it for a sin offering at the place where the burnt offering is slaughtered. Then the priest shall take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering and pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar. They shall remove all the fat, just as the fat is removed from the lamb of the fellowship offering, and the priest shall burn it on the altar on top of the food offerings presented to the Lord. In this way the priest will make atonement for them for the sin they have committed, and they will be forgiven."

I have highlighted where the offering is made for ANY violation of the Lord's commands. Those commands include adultery, theft, killing, violating the sabbath and cursing your parents.

 

[jaybo]

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[Tempo]

Leviticus 4 lists the sacrifices required for sins...

"The Lord said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites: ‘When anyone sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands—

“‘If the anointed priest sins, bringing guilt on the people, he must bring to the Lord a young bull without defect as a sin offering for the sin he has committed. He is to present the bull at the entrance to the tent of meeting before the Lord. He is to lay his hand on its head and slaughter it there before the Lord. Then the anointed priest shall take some of the bull’s blood and carry it into the tent of meeting. He is to dip his finger into the blood and sprinkle some of it seven times before the Lord, in front of the curtain of the sanctuary. The priest shall then put some of the blood on the horns of the altar of fragrant incense that is before the Lord in the tent of meeting. The rest of the bull’s blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar of burnt offering at the entrance to the tent of meeting. He shall remove all the fat from the bull of the sin offering—all the fat that is connected to the internal organs, both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which he will remove with the kidneys— just as the fat is removed from the ox sacrificed as a fellowship offering. Then the priest shall burn them on the altar of burnt offering. But the hide of the bull and all its flesh, as well as the head and legs, the internal organs and the intestines— 1that is, all the rest of the bull—he must take outside the camp to a place ceremonially clean, where the ashes are thrown, and burn it there in a wood fire on the ash heap.

“‘If the whole Israelite community sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands, even though the community is unaware of the matter, when they realize their guilt and the sin they committed becomes known, the assembly must bring a young bull as a sin offering and present it before the tent of meeting. The elders of the community are to lay their hands on the bull’s head before the Lord, and the bull shall be slaughtered before the Lord. Then the anointed priest is to take some of the bull’s blood into the tent of meeting. He shall dip his finger into the blood and sprinkle it before the Lord seven times in front of the curtain. He is to put some of the blood on the horns of the altar that is before the Lord in the tent of meeting. The rest of the blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar of burnt offering at the entrance to the tent of meeting. He shall remove all the fat from it and burn it on the altar,and do with this bull just as he did with the bull for the sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for the community, and they will be forgiven. Then he shall take the bull outside the camp and burn it as he burned the first bull. This is the sin offering for the community.

“‘When a leader sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the commands of the Lord his God, when he realizes his guilt and the sin he has committed becomes known, he must bring as his offering a male goat without defect. He is to lay his hand on the goat’s head and slaughter it at the place where the burnt offering is slaughtered before the Lord. It is a sin offering. Then the priest shall take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering and pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar. He shall burn all the fat on the altar as he burned the fat of the fellowship offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for the leader’s sin, and he will be forgiven.

“‘If any member of the community sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands, when they realize their guilt and the sin they have committed becomes known, they must bring as their offering for the sin they committed a female goat without defect. They are to lay their hand on the head of the sin offering and slaughter it at the place of the burnt offering. Then the priest is to take some of the blood with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering and pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar. They shall remove all the fat, just as the fat is removed from the fellowship offering, and the priest shall burn it on the altar as an aroma pleasing to the Lord. In this way the priest will make atonement for them, and they will be forgiven.

“‘If someone brings a lamb as their sin offering, they are to bring a female without defect. They are to lay their hand on its head and slaughter it for a sin offering at the place where the burnt offering is slaughtered. Then the priest shall take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering and pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar. They shall remove all the fat, just as the fat is removed from the lamb of the fellowship offering, and the priest shall burn it on the altar on top of the food offerings presented to the Lord. In this way the priest will make atonement for them for the sin they have committed, and they will be forgiven."

I have highlighted where the offering is made for ANY violation of the Lord's commands. Those commands include adultery, theft, killing, violating the sabbath and cursing your parents.

>>>I doubt if you're aware of my question.​

Here is my question again, please listen carefully:

"If I agree with you, can you show me how to atone for: Adultery, theft, killing, violating the sabbath and cursing your parents?
Can you show only ONE single verse, how sacrifices apply to these major, intentional sins?

I think you miss "unintentionally"? please look at your answer again.

By the way, the sacrifice must be "a female" to be accepted. Jesus was a male as we all know.

Plus, to be perfect sacrifice, the sacrifice must be:
1) a female
2)without defect.
3) must be slaughter (cut the head).
4) at the Alter.
5)Preist must dip his finger in the blood and touch the horn
5)pour out the rest of the blood at the alter.
6)remove all the fat.
7)burn the fat on the alter.
8)offer all the above to the lord to be forgiving.
Just wondering if Jesus met any of these above conditions.

Good luck

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[jaybo]

>>>I doubt if you're aware of my question.​

Here is my question again, please listen carefully:

"If I agree with you, can you show me how to atone for: Adultery, theft, killing, violating the sabbath and cursing your parents?
Can you show only ONE single verse, how sacrifices apply to these major, intentional sins?

I think you miss "unintentionally"? please look at your answer again.

By the way, the sacrifice must be "a female" to be accepted. Jesus was a male as we all know.

Plus, to be perfect sacrifice, the sacrifice must be:
1) a female
2)without defect.
3) must be slaughter (cut the head).
4) at the Alter.
5)Preist must dip his finger in the blood and touch the horn
5)pour out the rest of the blood at the alter.
6)remove all the fat.
7)burn the fat on the alter.
8)offer all the above to the lord to be forgiving.
Just wondering if Jesus met any of these above conditions.

Good luck

​

I have given you my answer. Do you think that, aside from murder, people commit adultery, theft, violate the sabbath and curse their parents accidentally? Oops, I committed adultery by accident? Oops, I didn't mean to steal? Is it really the sabbath? I thought that it's tomorrow! I didn't mean to curse my parents! You must be joking!

And the sacrifice must be a male...

Exodus 13:15b, "This is why I sacrifice to the Lord the first male offspring of every womb and redeem each of my firstborn sons.’
Leviticus 23:19a, "Then sacrifice one male goat for a sin offering".
Numbers 7:88, "The total number of animals for the sacrifice of the fellowship offering came to twenty-four oxen, sixty rams, sixty male goats and sixty male lambs a year old. These were the offerings for the dedication of the altar after it was anointed."
1 Chronicles 29:21, "The next day they made sacrifices to the Lord and presented burnt offerings to him: a thousand bulls, a thousand rams and a thousand male lambs, together with their drink offerings, and other sacrifices in abundance for all Israel.

... and there are more.

When you learn how to read and understand what Scripture clearly says, we might continue this discussion. Until then, I have no further interest.

 

[jaybo]

>>>If I agree with you, can you show me how to atone for: Adultery, theft, killing, violating the sabbath and cursing your parents?
Can you show only ONE single verse, how sacrifices apply to these major, intentional sins?

Have a male animal killed as a replacement for yourself, as a blood sacrifice is required under the Old Covenant. Under the New covenant, of course, only one sacrifice is needed, and it has already occurred.

 

[Robert Pate]

Have a male animal killed as a replacement for yourself, as a blood sacrifice is required under the Old Covenant. Under the New covenant, of course, only one sacrifice is needed, and it has already occurred.

Right. When Jesus died on the cross all of humanity died with him, because Jesus was the representative of the human race. When Jesus walked out of Joseph's new tomb all of humanity walked out with him. This is how we are new creations in Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:17. Nothing is ours until it is received by faith.