IS JESUS CHRIST GOD?

[Pipiripi]

In regard to a sabbaths day walk how far can you lawfully travel on the sabbath? I also assume because you seem hardcore that you prepare your meals in advance and abstain from all work on the sabbath as in the law? Your branch started in the 1800's under the leadership of what many Christians would state is a false prophet. You claim you believe in other churches. Churches that are not SDA. Clearly then the sabbath day observance, as in the law, was not taken into consideration by the one who judges in the pouring out of the gift of God. Unless your claimed belief in regard to the full body of Christ is a lie. I have found your words to be a distortion of the truth despite your claim to be biblical. As I stated before the sabbath was given to the children of Abraham for their benefit. A day of rest from their labor mandated in the law. When they came to Christ the sabbath was a way of life. They were not told to stop keeping the sabbath they were told to believe in Jesus. Likewise when God sent the good news of the gospel message to the gentiles they also were instructed to believe in Jesus. Wickedness was rebuked but the sabbath, as in the law, was not mandated to them in order to be considered righteous before God. They like the Israelites before them had submitted to Gods righteousness which is from first to last by faith.
I doubt you listen to any of this. I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I know Him and He knows me well. I have received answers from Him in regard to prayer with words in my mind via the Spirit. I have believed in Him and loved Him as far back as my memory goes. He loves me as well. I DO NOT keep the Sabbath as in the law. I have no plans to add it either. I will not back down from grace.

You are mistaken.

First of all, the Sabbath has begin in creation.
Second, the Sabbath was made for man not only Jews. Third I will write for you what is the truth Sabbath. A question for you I see that you know the Bible very good. Who is this person today?
Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 14:12? I will I BIBLICAL answered

 

[Pipiripi]

Scripture lists many names.
Holy Spirit - By Jesus in Matthew 28:19 and John 14:26 and others. By Paul in 1 Corinthians 6:19
Helper - John 14:26
Spirit of Truth - John 16:13
Spirit of God - Genesis 1:2
Spirit - Romans 8:26

Scripture lists many names.
Holy Spirit - By Jesus in Matthew 28:19 and John 14:26 and others. By Paul in 1 Corinthians 6:19
Helper - John 14:26
Spirit of Truth - John 16:13
Spirit of God - Genesis 1:2
Spirit - Romans 8:26

I ask is the Holy Spirit a name or something else like a being? Where in the Bible that I can read that the Holy Spirit has spoken with Jesus or God or both? He is a God separate being the way that you believe, isn't it? I will see the chapter and verses.

 

[tigger 2]

Posts #4; 47; 48; 58; 69; & 102 cite 1 John 5:7 KJV as doctrinal evidence.

1 John 5:7

Noted NT scholar, Dr. William Barclay, states the following about 1 John 5:7 as found in the KJV:

"There is, of course, nothing wrong with it; but modern scholarship has made it quite certain that John did not write it and that it is a much later commentary on, and addition to, his words; and that is why [nearly] all modern translations omit it.” - pp. 110-111, The Letters of John and Jude, The Daily Study Bible Series, Revised Edition, The Westminster Press, 1976. [Material in brackets and emphasis added by me.]

Popular scholar Daniel B. Wallace admits the same: https://bible.org/article/textual-problem-1-john-57-8#_ftnref3

Notice the comments concerning this disputed passage found in the respected reference work, The Expositor's Greek Testament:

It says in a note for 1 John 5:7 (as found in the Received Text and the KJV):

"A Latin interpolation, certainly spurious.　 (I) Found in no Gk. MS. [Greek Manuscript] except two late minuscules - 162 (Vatican), 15th c., the Lat. Vg. [Latin Vulgate] Version with a Gk. text adapted thereto; 34 (Trin. Coll., Dublin), 16th c.　 (2) Quoted by none of the Gk Fathers.　 Had they known it, they would have employed it in the Trinitarian controversies (Sabellian and Arian [325 A.D.]).　 (3) Found in none of the early versions - in Vg. but not as it [originally]　left the hands of St. Jerome." - p. 195, Vol. 5, Eerdmans Publishing Co.


The following modern Bibles do not include the spurious words found in the KJV at 1 Jn 5:7: Revised Standard Version; New Revised Standard Version; American Standard Version; New International Version; New American Standard Bible; Living Bible; Good News Bible; New English Bible; Revised English Bible; New American Bible (1970 and 1991 editions); Jerusalem Bible; New Jerusalem Bible; Modern Language Bible; Holy Bible: Easy-to-Read Version; An American Translation (Smith-Goodspeed); and translations by Moffatt; C. B. Williams; William Beck; Phillips; Rotherham; Lamsa; Byington; Barclay; etc.

 

[Episcopius]

Known as the JOHANNINE COMMA - 1 John 5:7 is deemed by many scholars to be a gloss - non-trinnies SQUEAL LIKE PIGS if that verse is used as proof of Trinity.

Annoyed by their squealing, I do not use 1 John 5:17 as a proof of Trinity. NON-TRINNIES and NOT-GODDERS generally make me nauseous. This is re-inventing the wheel of dogma to be talking about this in the present.

The first council proclaiming the Nicene Creed had that version aimed at the NOT-GODDERS led by Arius and his followers. The second and final version of the Nicene Creed added more on the Holy Spirit:

"We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father. With the Father and the Son, He is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets."

Centuries later, the FILIOQUE was added to the western church's creed, saying the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father AND THE SON - this is spurious, and the creed from the second council's version had already been carved in stone in the steps of the Vatican without the filioque (in other words -

"proceeds from the Father. With the father and the Son, He is worshipped and glorified"

- I dunno why the phrase AND THE SON was put in regarding procession, but its wrong.

NON-TRINNIES AND NOT-GODDERS cover a lot of erroneous doctrine, many people - a lot - are both -- denying the Trinity as well as the fact that Jesus is God.

John Milton, who wrote PARADISE LOST, is one who is a NON-TRINNIE but not a NOT-GODDER...
Oneness Pentecostals are modern day versions of that view.

We are centuries past these heresies - yet today's message-boards have threads from time to time by modern-day hairy-ticks who bark that there aint no Trinity, and/or that The Son is not God.

The Trinity can be seen as far back as "Let us make man in our own image".

If you don't believe in the Trinity - you're just WRONG.
If you don't believe Jesus is God - you be hairy-tick.

 

[Pipiripi]

The Fathers promise=>In the last days I will pour out My Spirit...
John 14
Jesus=>And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever--the Spirit of truth
Acts 2=>Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.

Matt 3:11
"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit the Father declared, "My Spirit", the Spirit Jesus received from the Father and sends in His name.

Jesus has never referred to the HS as His Spirit . Unlike the Father who did so consistently.

Jesus, as a firstborn Son, has His own spirit. "Father into your hands I commit my spirit"

In regard to the firstborn of all creation the fullness of the deity of the Father was pleased to dwell in Him. (gifted not formed)(from the will of another and the only other at that point in history was the Father) And the one gifting is defining Jesus's being.
About the "Son" who was Hebrews 1
The relationship between Jesus and the Father has always been Father and Son.

If one wants to believe Jesus's spirit always was - fine I don't agree
However I know from above and the scriptures that Jesus is ALL that the Father is. The name He inherited from His Father and God is Mighty God. But the Father is the only true God. Jesus is the Lord Christ. The Fathers Christ.

If you don't know what the Holy Spirit is I will write for you to see who or what is the Holy Spirit

 

[Episcopius]

William Barclay and Daniel Wallace are outstanding authoritative scholars, but they are not infallible, usually right, but only men after all. Barclay is a Universalist (not Unitarian Universalist) - Daniel Wallace has a position regarding a certain genitive used with AKUO that he uses to try to explain accounts of Paul's Damascus road experience that Paul's companions heard a voice one time but didn't hear it in another account of Paul's conversion - Wallace tried to propose that AKUO used with that type of genitive could mean "heard but didn't understand". He was in a way trying to keep the 2 accounts from contradicting - a noble effort - but I spent two weeks on it and couldn't buy his way of looking at it.

 

[Pipiripi]

Posts #4; 47; 48; 58; 69; & 102 cite 1 John 5:7 KJV as doctrinal evidence.

1 John 5:7

Noted NT scholar, Dr. William Barclay, states the following about 1 John 5:7 as found in the KJV:

"There is, of course, nothing wrong with it; but modern scholarship has made it quite certain that John did not write it and that it is a much later commentary on, and addition to, his words; and that is why [nearly] all modern translations omit it.” - pp. 110-111, The Letters of John and Jude, The Daily Study Bible Series, Revised Edition, The Westminster Press, 1976. [Material in brackets and emphasis added by me.]

Popular scholar Daniel B. Wallace admits the same: https://bible.org/article/textual-problem-1-john-57-8#_ftnref3

Notice the comments concerning this disputed passage found in the respected reference work, The Expositor's Greek Testament:

It says in a note for 1 John 5:7 (as found in the Received Text and the KJV):

"A Latin interpolation, certainly spurious.　 (I) Found in no Gk. MS. [Greek Manuscript] except two late minuscules - 162 (Vatican), 15th c., the Lat. Vg. [Latin Vulgate] Version with a Gk. text adapted thereto; 34 (Trin. Coll., Dublin), 16th c.　 (2) Quoted by none of the Gk Fathers.　 Had they known it, they would have employed it in the Trinitarian controversies (Sabellian and Arian [325 A.D.]).　 (3) Found in none of the early versions - in Vg. but not as it [originally]　left the hands of St. Jerome." - p. 195, Vol. 5, Eerdmans Publishing Co.


The following modern Bibles do not include the spurious words found in the KJV at 1 Jn 5:7: Revised Standard Version; New Revised Standard Version; American Standard Version; New International Version; New American Standard Bible; Living Bible; Good News Bible; New English Bible; Revised English Bible; New American Bible (1970 and 1991 editions); Jerusalem Bible; New Jerusalem Bible; Modern Language Bible; Holy Bible: Easy-to-Read Version; An American Translation (Smith-Goodspeed); and translations by Moffatt; C. B. Williams; William Beck; Phillips; Rotherham; Lamsa; Byington; Barclay; etc.

Do you think that the new scholars no the Bible better than the old scholars?

 

[Episcopius]

It has been said by some that JOHANNINE COMMA as well as the long ending of Mark were added later to "beef up the doctrine of Trinity".

New King James Version does have 1 John 5:17 just like KJV. Scholars regard Mark as ending with 16:8 - 16-9-20 are generally regarded as added later - there are two versions of 9-20 - one includes the FREER Logion

In any case - most scholars today say that Mark himself ended his gospel at verse 8.

 

[Episcopius]

To me, there is nothing in "long ending of Mark" that "beefs up the doctrine of Trinity" at all.


The end of Matthew might be said to beef up Trinity for it has the baptismal formula of Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

 

[Link1983]

You are viewing this as what is taught in your religion that God, as the Supreme Being of the universe, gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life and has a flesh and bone body. This is why you can not see that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit all equal God's Spirit as all three are co-equal as being God's Spirit.

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Water in these verses means living water as in the living word of God, John 4:4-26; 7:37-39; 12:44-50; Ephesians 5:26; 1 John 5:5-8; Jeremiah 17:13; Zechariah 14:8, 9; Rev 21:6-8; Ezekiel 47:22

Jesus is word, light and life that is God transfigured in the flesh.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Gods Holy Spirit has come to indwell us and teach us. John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

It's all God's Spirit manifested in the flesh of Christ and the Holy Spirit being God's Spirit that indwells us. All three, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, are existence, being, and life that make up the full Godhead. Can we comprehend all of this, no, as we can only know in part until Christ returns and then we will understand the full when we are with Him in the New Jerusalem.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

I Am who I Am. This name tells that God is beyond definition, comparison and no limiting name could ever be given Him. He is self-existent and eternal. Exodus 3:14; 6:2; Isaiah 40:28; John 8:58; 10:30; 14:6; 20:28; Rev 19:6.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

I agree that you said that this is a mystery to us. And not completely comprehending to us.
They are three yet in a sense the same.

The Bible speaks about Jesus the Word being God. This doesn't necessarily means that He is the highest God. God calls Jesus His son, and also every Christian too.
So a son of God. What is he or she? God off course. Son of man is man.
Jesus is not Father God. He is God. The son of God.
This makes the most sense when we read the Bible.

 

[for_his_glory]

Pip says he ain't Mormon, but SDA - is this correct?
Mormonism is a cult - SDA is a real church - though I don't accept their SOUL SLEEP mumbo-jumbo...
But don't try to make him a Mormon if he ain't

The HAGION PNEUMA will not be put into a box

Go back and read post #104. Until one looks up origins then they have no understanding of what they follow.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes, and this spirit is not the Holy Spirit.
This spirit you find it in Ezekiel 37:1-14.

Ezekiel 37 spirit of the LORD, O Lord GOD, word of the Lord, Lord God, I am the Lord God

Ezekiel 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

God's Spirit is Holy, thus Holy Spirit that is God.

The Book of Mormon 1 Nephi 11:9-12 teaches the Holy Ghost as an embodied being of spirit referring to the human form of God before he came in the flesh. The LDS church sees God as the Supreme Being of the universe. However, He gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life. God the Father has a body (flesh and bones).

 

[for_his_glory]

No one can put Go

The HAGION PNEUMA will not be put into a box

I agree as no one can put God in a box, even though many try to.

 

[Episcopius]

I am not seeing "post numberings" at all
iow, "go to post #104" ???????
Is it something in SETTINGS somewhere?
I am used to seeing post #;s -- here, I just do not

I don't understand why Mormonism is being talked about in this thread.

 

[for_his_glory]

No one can put Go

The HAGION PNEUMA will not be put into a box

I agree as no one can put God in a box, even though many try to.

Acts5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Acts 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Peter is telling Ananias that he has lied to the Holy Ghost, thou hast lied unto God. Holy Ghost is the very Spirit that is God.

 

[for_his_glory]

I am not seeing "post numberings" at all
iow, "go to post #104" ???????
Is it something in SETTINGS somewhere?
I am used to seeing post #;s -- here, I just do not

I don't understand why Mormonism is being talked about in this thread.

Look up in the right hand corner of your post and you will see #134.

It's being talked about because Pipiripi is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and what he is replying with in this thread is from the Book of Mormon they learn from that teaches against the Deity/Trinity.

 

[for_his_glory]

I agree that you said that this is a mystery to us. And not completely comprehending to us.
They are three yet in a sense the same.

The Bible speaks about Jesus the Word being God. This doesn't necessarily means that He is the highest God. God calls Jesus His son, and also every Christian too.
So a son of God. What is he or she? God off course. Son of man is man.
Jesus is not Father God. He is God. The son of God.
This makes the most sense when we read the Bible.

Not sure if you saw these scriptures I posted so will repost them again.

Scriptures that reference Jesus being referred to as God:
John 1:1-14; John 10:30; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8, 9; 1 John 5:7, 8, 20; 1 Corinthians 8:6; 2 Corinthians 3:17; 13:14; Isaiah 9:6; 44:6; Luke 1:35; Matthew 1:23; 28:19; John 14:16, 17; Genesis 1:1, 2 (cross reference John 1:1-14); 1 Corinthians 12:4-6; Ephesians 4:4-6; Colossians 1:15-17; John 14:9-11; Philippians 2:5-8; Rev 1:8

Scriptures that refer the Holy Spirit as being God:
Psalms 139:7, 8; John 14:17; 16:13; Isaiah 40:13; 1 Corinthians 2:10, 11; Zechariah 4:6; Luke 1:35; Ephesians 4:4-6; Romans 5:5; 1 Corinthians 6:19; Ephesians 1:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:5; Titus 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21; Jude 1:20

 

[Pipiripi]

Look up in the right hand corner of your post and you will see #134.

It's being talked about because Pipiripi is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and what he is replying with in this thread is from the Book of Mormon they learn from that teaches against the Deity/Trinity.

How could you know better than me in what denomination that I attended? It is the same as I saying to you that you are a Catholic, because the trinity doctrine is origin from the Catholic church. Mormon keep the Sunday rest just like you do. But we Adventist of Seven day kept the Saturday Sabbath as the day of rest. O! My God help me!

 

[Pipiripi]

Ezekiel 37 spirit of the LORD, O Lord GOD, word of the Lord, Lord God, I am the Lord God

Ezekiel 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

God's Spirit is Holy, thus Holy Spirit that is God.

The Book of Mormon 1 Nephi 11:9-12 teaches the Holy Ghost as an embodied being of spirit referring to the human form of God before he came in the flesh. The LDS church sees God as the Supreme Being of the universe. However, He gradually acquired that position over a long period of time by living a perfect and righteous life. God the Father has a body (flesh and bones).

Sorry my friend if you declared that the Father of Jesus have a body, you are far away from home. Is there anybody that can show this brother that God THE FATHER is a Spirit, and we must worship Him in Spirit and truth? I need some help. O! My Lord, forgive them, because they don't know they are saying! Bless

 

[jaybird]

Is Jesus God? There are actually two answers to this question. One is MOST DEFINITELY YES! The other answer is no. And the answer depends upon what you mean by "God". Confused? There's no need to be! You see, the word "God" in the Bible refers to two things. In one instance it refers to the 'Sovereign of the universe', the 'only true God'. And in another instance it refers to the divine nature, the 'God nature' and the 'name of God.' So I will show you that while Jesus is FULLY divine and is FULLY God by nature (being begotten of the Father from eternity, Micah 5:2, Proverbs 8:22-30), and possessing the Father's own name, he is NOT the 'sovereign of the universe', the 'only true God' as that is His Father alone.
"The Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father, IS TRULY GOD IN INFINITY, BUT NOT IN PERSONALITY."
In other words, Christ IS God in respect of being divine and eternal. But in His distinctive character and person, He is NOT the 'only true God', He is the SON OF the only true God - His Father!
Quick note: Jesus is NEVER called 'God the Son' in the Bible. He is always called the 'Son OF God'.

Now let me confirm quickly that I am in no way trying to make Jesus 'lesser' being than His Father. The Bible confirms that Jesus is EQUAL with the Father (Philippines 2:6). Jesus is as divine as His Father, just as my son is as human as me. But what I am addressing here are those trinitarian and unitarian confusions that make Jesus and the Father part of the same being.

According to the Trinity and Unitarian doctrines, Jesus Christ is the 'eternal, self-existence God', known as 'God the Son', viewing Him as the 'One God', even thinking Jesus is the Father also. But to believe that Jesus is also the 'Father' Himself is to believe that Jesus is the immortal God BUT DIED, is the invisible God, that no man can see, BUT WAS SEEN, is as great (in authority) as His Father BUT SAID HIS FATHER IS GREATER THAN HE, is the begotten Son and the unbegotten God, came out from Himself, prayed to Himself, gave power to Himself, thanked Himself, bore witnesses of Himself, went back to Himself, sits at the right hand of Himself, is His own Father and His own Son, left Heaven and yet was there all the time. AND SO THE CONFUSION OF BABYLON CONTINUES! And the whole world is deceived! So let me unravel the confusion. I will start with the most used verse to support the theory that Jesus is that 'one God' Himself, John 1:1-2

Those four words above, 'the Words was God' has convinced many Christians to believe that Jesus is the 'only true God' Himself. And yet they miss the simple meaning of what John was saying. Is this all John had to say about Christ? No. Look at what he said towards the end of his gospel: John 20:31

Why did John write his gospel? So that people might believe that Jesus Christ is the 'only true God'? No! That people might believe He is the SON OF GOD. And John records this just a few verses after John 20:17, where he records Christ telling Mary ... "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY FATHER, AND YOUR FATHER; AND TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD."
Revelation 3:12

Do you see the problem with taking John's words in John 1 and applying a teaching to it without comparing scripture with scripture? So how can we reconcile this? How can John say that Jesus 'is God' and also say He is the 'Son OF God' and also record Jesus saying that the Father is 'HIS GOD'? Well, as I mentioned above, people are missing the simple message of John 1 and have a wrong understanding of it.

To begin with, the English translation of John 1:1 have a small but yet important word missing, which is in the original Greek. Let's add that word back in and see how it changes the verse ... "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [THE] God, and the Word was God." ... So Christ was with THE God in the beginning. So He was with someone who is THE God. Who is that? Again, John records it for us:
John 17:1-3

So John records a prayer that Jesus made to His Father in heaven, and Jesus confirmed in this prayer that His Father is THE only true God. So now we know who Christ was with in the beginning. And who is [THE] God? It is God the Father. The only being that is ever called "God the ..." in the Bible. The Holy Spirit' is never called 'God the Holy Spirit' and Jesus is NEVER called 'God the Son', Only the Father is called this, as He is 'THE only true God', which Jesus confirmed in John 17:3 and Paul confirmed in 1Corinthians 8:6.

Just think about this example for a moment. Let us reapply John 1:1 to Adam and Eve ... "In the beginning was the woman and the woman was with the human, and the woman was human.". Now does this mean Eve is as old as Adam? No, because we know Adam was created first (to represent the Father). Or does it mean that Eve is actually Adam herself? No, of course not. It is simply stating that Eve is HUMAN JUST LIKE ADAM. Keep this thought in your mind as we look further.

Now let us go a bit deeper into God's Word to further clarify this truth, that Jesus is God (divine) because He is the SON OF God, but not the 'only true God' Himself. There is a deep and beautiful truth in the creation of Adam and Eve that the majority of Christians miss today. Let's take a look.
Genesis 1:26. Genesis 2:21-23. John 16:27-28. John 17:7-8. Proverbs 8:22-25

There is a such beautiful truth in these words which many miss. God said 'let us make man in our own image'. So first of all, if the Trinity was truth, then why didn't God make THREE people? Why did He only make two? Not only that, can you see what happened with Adam and Eve is an IMAGE of what happened with God the Father and Jesus Christ?

The man EXISTED FIRST and then the woman was taken OUT OF MAN. And Jesus confirmed Himself as you can see above, that this is also what happened with Him. He came OUT of the Father, which is what Proverbs 8and Micah 5:2 also confirm. So for Jesus to come out of the Father, it means GOD THE FATHER EXISTED FIRST, and is represented by Adam. Then Jesus came OUT FROM or 'begotten' of the Father, and is represented by Eve being taken OUT OF Adam.

So what does it mean? It means that just as Eve shared the same human nature as Adam, being taken out of Adam, Jesus shares the same nature as God the Father, because He was taken out of the God. This is why John said that Jesus is 'God' in John 1. He wasn't saying that Jesus is the 'only true God' He was simply stating the fact that Christ shares the same nature as His Father, being the SON OF God the Father. And that makes Him 'God' - fully divine.

doesnt god refer to sons of the Most High as well?