So you are not humble to be taught by men of God.
They teach against your heresy.
This is expected.
Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?
A simple yes or no will do?
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Sinless Perfection; The Unsustainable Command?
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They teach against your heresy.
This is expected.
Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?
A simple yes or no will do?
Tenchi
Member
We don't know what she decided to do. The Scriptures say nothing more about her than the single account of her being brought to Jesus.
A command, yes, but fulfilled for us in Christ whose perfect righteousness is imputed to us.
The two things - the inability to keep God's commands in a continuous manner and trying with everything you've got - go together. Living God's way by His power never produces this sort of experience. If you want sin to be the exception rather than the rule, simply follow Paul's way of escape spelled out in Romans 6, Romans 8:9-14 and Galatians 5:16, 25.
Just like God's word says. See 1 John 1:8-10.
??? I don't follow you here. A person who is regularly mired in sin is not free.
Trying is not God's "way of escape." It is what we do when we are pursuing a spiritual, godly end by fleshly means.
Well, it is a struggle - and a very common one among Christians, unfortunately. But The Struggle, the Great Battle of Christian living is about being, and staying, submitted to God's will and way, not bringing ourselves under control.
You're a good deal more than this, as one of God's children! In fact, it is more correct to say you're a saint who sins rather than a sinner saved by grace. See: 2 Corinthians 5:17, Ephesians 1:1-13, Ephesians 2:4-10, Romans 6, Romans 8:8-16, Revelation 1:5-6.
"The me I see is the me I'll be."
Never sinning? Yes. Sinning a great deal less? No.
Men of God don't assert that servants of sin are serving God.
Then they are not of God.
Jesus said we could tell the false prophets by their fruit.
If the end of a preacher's message is continued sinfulness, their fruit is of the devil.
Why would you believe me now if you don't believe the other things I have written or quoted?
"Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame." (1 Cor 15:34)
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." (2 Cor 5:21)
Why would you believe me now if you don't believe the other things I have written or quoted?
"Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame." (1 Cor 15:34)
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." (2 Cor 5:21)
So, you will not answer.
I will ask again.
Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?
A simple yes or no will do?
If someone were to prove to you that you could live in 100% obedience to God, would you ?
This is the third time you have avoided my question.
I would like to know what you believe about the Lord.
Is Jesus Christ God in the flesh?
A simple yes or no will do.
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
How do you prove it H?
Saying you never sin is prideful.
Pride is a sin.
Monks that live alone up on hills believe they sin.
Do you think you're better than a monk?
I'm thinking we should start moving these threads to Unorthodox beliefs.
It's most discouraging to a new Christian.
It's not biblical.
The Nazarene church, started by Wesley, or, I mean, it was started believing what HE taught.
Even THEY have left behind the notion that, IN TIME, a person could come to have a sinless life.
IN TIME. That means the more time goes on the better a person could become.
Consecrated Life
Member
Anyone you hear & see seeking self-justification by burdensome claims of sinless-perfection of their flesh you can be sure is not walking in the Light but is living by the same carnal spirit of darkness of the flesh by which the Pharisees & the Scribes also gloried in the flesh.
Jesus spoke well of these hypocrites who believe only what is seen on the outside is sin when the reality is the sin has already occurred within the heart.
Mar 7:21
For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
They are Spiritually ignorant to the fact that Jesus Christ says that all sin is committed spiritually in the heart where only God & God alone sees it .
They suffer the same fatal flaw of pride that brought Satan down to hell in thinking that God does not know the sin that is always committed IN THEE where no one but God is aware of it :
Eze 28:15
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Any person who thinks that the only what is manifested in the flesh needs to be repented of is someone wholly ignorant of the Spirit of an Almighty , all Knowing God.
The anxious , craving , straining pathetic claims of sinlessness professed to the faces of men and women of these little mortals so manifestly burdened and restless as a consequence of their neutralizing God's Eternal Spiritual Peace in favor of complete surrender to the cold system of glorying & boasting in decaying flesh, is there own testifying of their ignorance
So desperately destitute of God's Peace and rest and having neither .
Spiritually dead, their ceaseless restless pursuit of peace and rest in testifying of the purity of their own decaying flesh before the faces of men and women leads them on and on in the darkness of their thoughtless surrender to things carnal that can never ferry them over across Jordan to God's land of Peace, Light & Spiritual Life.
The Pharisees & Scribes would have welcomed them with open arms .
Jesus spoke well of these hypocrites who believe only what is seen on the outside is sin when the reality is the sin has already occurred within the heart.
Mar 7:21
For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
They are Spiritually ignorant to the fact that Jesus Christ says that all sin is committed spiritually in the heart where only God & God alone sees it .
They suffer the same fatal flaw of pride that brought Satan down to hell in thinking that God does not know the sin that is always committed IN THEE where no one but God is aware of it :
Eze 28:15
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Any person who thinks that the only what is manifested in the flesh needs to be repented of is someone wholly ignorant of the Spirit of an Almighty , all Knowing God.
The anxious , craving , straining pathetic claims of sinlessness professed to the faces of men and women of these little mortals so manifestly burdened and restless as a consequence of their neutralizing God's Eternal Spiritual Peace in favor of complete surrender to the cold system of glorying & boasting in decaying flesh, is there own testifying of their ignorance
So desperately destitute of God's Peace and rest and having neither .
Spiritually dead, their ceaseless restless pursuit of peace and rest in testifying of the purity of their own decaying flesh before the faces of men and women leads them on and on in the darkness of their thoughtless surrender to things carnal that can never ferry them over across Jordan to God's land of Peace, Light & Spiritual Life.
The Pharisees & Scribes would have welcomed them with open arms .
I answered your question on post 37.
If someone were to prove to you that you could live in 100% obedience to God, would you ?
I was looking for a yes or no answer.
Many argue that the "Word" and "Son of God" is not God.
That is why I asked you for a specific yes or no answer.
Is Jesus Christ, God?
It doesn't matter.
If I could prove it, would you follow the One I follow ?
It's just a statement of fact, and glorifies God and His Son who died to free me from sin.
Way better.
Their sins show they didn't ever repent of sin.
I have, to the glory of God.
Their sins show they were not reborn of God's seed.
I have been, to the glory of God.
That depends on what that new Christian is seeking.
If he wants the promise of eternal life while continuing to offend God and man, he ay indeed be discouraged.
If he really loves God, he will rejoice in the fact that others, before him have lived without offense.
His earliest teachings were right on the mark, but later he rescinded his doctrine of love.
Sure, as we are all going to grow in grace and knowledge, or wither on the vine.
The question is a derail.
That is not true.
You do not discern well.
I wanted a specific answer from you.
You refused to give the answer several times.
Jesus WAS the Word.
The Word was God.
When Jesus was born of a woman, He wasn't the Word anymore.
So He wasn't God either.
God would have known the answers to all the questions Jesus couldn't answer.
How does the fact that Jesus was or was not God reflect on the OP ?
That is what I thought you believed.
Jesus Christ was fully God and fully human at all times on this earth.
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