The Black Horse Will Soon Start Its Ride...

[for_his_glory]

You don't seem to grasp the different nature of Revelation.
You don't just read the Bible... but you are to just read Revelation.
Funny you should quote those verses as that would be my exact quote in response to your post.
I ask these questions to get others to examine their own stance.
Can you defend your position? That is the basis of all my questions.
I wonder why I get so few questions on defending my position?
I am secure in my belief... but others have a difficult time when asked basic questions.
Like why do you believe that Revelation is like any other book in the Bible?

It is you criticizing everyone's understanding of Revelations as you dictate how it is suppose to be read and this needs to stop as we already talked about this with you.

I do not need to defend my understanding of Revelation, but to let everyone understand it as they do.

What you are about to read and have revealed to you in these revelations are those things that are yet future compared with that of the past. It has always been kingdom against kingdom and nation against nation. There are only two kingdoms as one is Gods kingdom that is taught in all truths through Gods Holy Spirit and the other a ruling kingdom of Satan who uses a Jezebel spirit that speaks a deceptive word to deceive the nations, Revelation 2:20.


Revelations is full of symbolism that is literal where it needs to be and Spiritual where it needs to define that of the literal. These revelations are given as a warning to those who have yet to accept Jesus as Messiah. Gods chastisements are to draw those back to him in repentance before that door of salvation is closed forever when Jesus returns and Gods true Church is gathered up to be with the Father forever.

The focus in Revelations would seem to center around Israel only and the nations that come against her for this is how John would recognize it to be since all other nations were not yet developed in his time. Revelations is about all of us, Jew and Gentile, past, present and future that by faith keep Gods commandments. We are Gods witnesses that testify of His mercy and grace as we take His word out into the world to those who have ears to hear.​

 

[dwb001]

It is you criticizing everyone's understanding of Revelations as you dictate how it is suppose to be read and this needs to stop as we already talked about this with you.

I do not need to defend my understanding of Revelation, but to let everyone understand it as they do.

Then why are you not allowing me to understand Revelation my way.

What you are about to read and have revealed to you in these revelations are those things that are yet future compared with that of the past. It has always been kingdom against kingdom and nation against nation. There are only two kingdoms as one is Gods kingdom that is taught in all truths through Gods Holy Spirit and the other a ruling kingdom of Satan who uses a Jezebel spirit that speaks a deceptive word to deceive the nations, Revelation 2:20.
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That is not a quote from Rev 2:20...

Revelations is full of symbolism that is literal where it needs to be and Spiritual where it needs to define that of the literal. These revelations are given as a warning to those who have yet to accept Jesus as Messiah. Gods chastisements are to draw those back to him in repentance before that door of salvation is closed forever when Jesus returns and Gods true Church is gathered up to be with the Father forever.
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"A warning to unbelievers"... then why is it address to the Churches? That would strike me as a fundamental error in your evaluation of the text.

The focus in Revelations would seem to center around Israel only and the nations that come against her for this is how John would recognize it to be since all other nations were not yet developed in his time. Revelations is about all of us, Jew and Gentile, past, present and future that by faith keep Gods commandments. We are Gods witnesses that testify of His mercy and grace as we take His word out into the world to those who have ears to hear.​

"Centred around Israel"? Why is Revelation directed to the Churches then?
John wouldn't recognise "it" he was transcribing what he saw.

 

[Anaphora]

Some people lack knowledge, they dont understand. Revelation 6:5. . This is the third seal. Its inflation. The federal reserve raised interest rates 6 times this year, 2022. Have you noticed food went up?? Other items went up. A person would have sleeping sickness, spirtualty, not to see bible prophecy align with current events. And Amos chapter 8, is famine, its spirtual, its rampant false preachers teaching traditions of men and false doctrine. The seals of revelation are not in chronological order. The seals align with Jesus teaching of Matthew chapter 24, 7 signs of end times. I documented this and told the truth. If you reject it, it's your choice.

 

[Dave Watchman]

When scripture says shortly after or soon to take place we have to remember all is in God's timing that is totally different then what we see as being soon or quickly to come to pass.

Revelation wasn't sealed like Daniel because it did shorty begin. You should know that. You know 1798 began in 538. 538 - 95 = 443 years. The first prophetic time period in Revelation, with your Ostrogoth, Vandals and Heruli, began 443 years after that Book was available. 443 years is soon in God years.

Matthew 24 When the disciples came to show Jesus all the buildings of the Temple it was the destruction of the Temple that He told them would be destroyed as that came to be fulfilled in 70AD (future).

I disagree. In the other thread they're worried about was the Olivet past or future. The whole Olivet discourse is for our time, 20th and 21st century. It was not about the destruction of Jerusalem, it was about all the buildings on the face of the planet.

The Olivet is for our time now, so we should be aware where we are in these seals. The main detail is that Luke 21 is not the Olivet, Luke 21 was inside the temple on the day of the Olivet.

Luke moves Matthews's Abomination of Desolation to chapter 17. That helps us see it is happening now and identifies what the "Abomination" is. (Let the reader understand)

"On that day, let the one who is on the housetop, with his goods in the house, not come down to take them away, and likewise let the one who is in the field not turn back.​

These same instructions from Luke 17 are the same instructions from Matthew 24 that come after the Abomination warning. But in Luke 17 they come after the mention of the "days of Lot".

"just as it was in the days of Lot—they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building,​

I continue to insist that it is happening now. We are headed for a hard stop in time.

(I got this list from a Time Magazine page which reported the first 21 nations to legalize same sex marriage)

1) The Netherlands (2000)
2) Belgium (2003)
3) Canada (2005)
4) Spain (2005)
5) South Africa (2006)
6) Norway (2009)
7) Sweden (2009)
8) Argentina (2010)
9) Iceland (2010)
10) Portugal (2010)
11) Denmark (2012)
12) Brazil (2013)
13) England and Wales (2013)
14) France (2013)
15) New Zealand (2013)
16) Uruguay (2013)
17) Luxembourg (2014)
18) Scotland (2014)
19) Finland (signed 2015, effective 2017)
20) Ireland (2015)
21) United States (2015)<-------1290 Days------->Sun/Moon
21) United States (2015)<-------1290 Days------->EofW

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This is a similar list of the nations reporting the recent Monkeypox outbreak:

I consider the possibility that Armageddon is not what we were always told it would be.

It's when the world is at war with God, and we are in the beginning stages of it now.

When I read about: "gender dysphoria", or see "pediatric gender affirming clinics", I think of:

“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”​

I'd hate to be found bringing a kid to a pediatric gender discovery clinic on the day that the Son of Man comes. (LOL)

 

[for_his_glory]

Revelation wasn't sealed like Daniel because it did shorty begin. You should know that. You know 1798 began in 538. 538 - 95 = 443 years. The first prophetic time period in Revelation, with your Ostrogoth, Vandals and Heruli, began 443 years after that Book was available. 443 years is soon in God years.



I disagree. In the other thread they're worried about was the Olivet past or future. The whole Olivet discourse is for our time, 20th and 21st century. It was not about the destruction of Jerusalem, it was about all the buildings on the face of the planet.

The Olivet is for our time now, so we should be aware where we are in these seals. The main detail is that Luke 21 is not the Olivet, Luke 21 was inside the temple on the day of the Olivet.

Luke moves Matthews's Abomination of Desolation to chapter 17. That helps us see it is happening now and identifies what the "Abomination" is. (Let the reader understand)

"On that day, let the one who is on the housetop, with his goods in the house, not come down to take them away, and likewise let the one who is in the field not turn back.​

These same instructions from Luke 17 are the same instructions from Matthew 24 that come after the Abomination warning. But in Luke 17 they come after the mention of the "days of Lot".

"just as it was in the days of Lot—they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building,​

I continue to insist that it is happening now. We are headed for a hard stop in time.

(I got this list from a Time Magazine page which reported the first 21 nations to legalize same sex marriage)

1) The Netherlands (2000)
2) Belgium (2003)
3) Canada (2005)
4) Spain (2005)
5) South Africa (2006)
6) Norway (2009)
7) Sweden (2009)
8) Argentina (2010)
9) Iceland (2010)
10) Portugal (2010)
11) Denmark (2012)
12) Brazil (2013)
13) England and Wales (2013)
14) France (2013)
15) New Zealand (2013)
16) Uruguay (2013)
17) Luxembourg (2014)
18) Scotland (2014)
19) Finland (signed 2015, effective 2017)
20) Ireland (2015)
21) United States (2015)<-------1290 Days------->Sun/Moon
21) United States (2015)<-------1290 Days------->EofW

Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results

Results page for Date Calculator. Shows number of days between two dates.

www.timeanddate.com

This is a similar list of the nations reporting the recent Monkeypox outbreak:

I consider the possibility that Armageddon is not what we were always told it would be.

It's when the world is at war with God, and we are in the beginning stages of it now.

When I read about: "gender dysphoria", or see "pediatric gender affirming clinics", I think of:

“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”​

I'd hate to be found bringing a kid to a pediatric gender discovery clinic on the day that the Son of Man comes. (LOL)

What Jesus spoke to His disciples in the Olivet discourse are past, present and yet future. It's just that the sorrows are increasing throughout every generation as this world waxes worse and worse until Christ returns.

It's always been a Luciferian system that controls world wide economics, political, military, educational, environmental and false religious system beginning with the Babylonian Empire ending with a New World order that stems out of that Empire.

 

[Dave Watchman]

What Jesus spoke to His disciples in the Olivet discourse are past, present and yet future. It's just that the sorrows are increasing throughout every generation as this world waxes worse and worse until Christ returns.

That's excellent. And you are free to believe it. Some people are worried that it's happening now. And in that case, let what you say be a comfort to them. But Jesus said if you're willing to accept it, John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah.

You're technically correct in that it's past to our present. But how far past? I wasn't alive during WW1, or WW2. The Olivet starts in the 20th century. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. Me and a couple other guys figured out the empirical in 2015 on another forum. It was the most exciting thread that I'd ever participated on. I still think you can start to figure it out too, if I can point you in the right direction.

Price action makes for market commentary. This is where we trade the charts, do not trade a story, because there's a lot of stories out there. For us to fly by instrumentation in the Biblical Prophecy world, our focus has to be on the 18 prophetic time periods found in Daniel and Revelation. Even though there's no specific mention of a prophetic time period in Matthew and Mark's Olivet, Jesus did direct us to an "abomination" spoken of by the prophet Daniel. It has a 1290 day duration that, when identified, will force the doctrine, the market commentary, on where the "earth" is that helped the "woman", where the "holy place" is where the abomination ought not to be standing, and exactly what that "abomination" is. And it will show us where Matthew and Mark's Olivet is in time.

"And every day he was teaching in the temple, but at night he went out and lodged on the mount called Olivet. And early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him. - Luke 21:38-38​

But Luke 21 is not the Olivet. I know that's not what you've always been taught since time immemorial. Luke 21 was the morning and the day before the Olivet discourse. Luke 21 found Jesus sitting INSIDE the temple, looking at the precious stones and offerings from INSIDE the temple. He was sitting in an area INSIDE the temple, a place called the women's court. That's where the treasury was. That's where the poor widow was putting her coin into when Jesus "looked up". It was full of people, all the disciples were there, early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him .

"These words He spoke in the treasury, as He taught in the temple; and no one seized Him, because His hour had not yet come. John 8:20​

Matthew 24 was different. It was at the end of the day. Jesus was "leaving the temple and walking away. The "noble stones and offerings" were no longer visible from outside the temple. When the disciples pointed out to Jesus the buildings (plural) of the temple. He answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

“Do you not see all these things?​

No different than looking at this:

“Do you not see all these things?​

Or this:

You see all these things? There will not be left here, (on planet earth), one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.

They then made their way down the temple mount, across the Kidron Valley, and up to the mount called Olivet. A 20 minute walk to this day. It would have been getting dark by then. It was just Jesus alone with His disciples. All the people who came to see Him in the temple had gone home. There were no poor widows putting money into the treasury jars. No scribes or pharisees hanging on His every word. Even two thirds of the disciples were going to sleep. But four of the disciples were concerned. They must have been troubled by Jesus' words: “You see ALL these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” Did just 4 of the disciples get it? Were they remembering the old Day of the lord prophecies where the earth would stagger to and fro like a drunkard? The earth is violently broken? The earth is split open? A foreboding sense of gravity must have befallen the third of them.

The earth is violently broken,
The earth is split open,
The earth is shaken exceedingly.
The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard,
And shall totter like a hut;
Its transgression shall be heavy upon it,
And it will fall, and not rise again.​

(Every mountain and island moved out of it's place)

So just 4 disciples, Peter, James, John, and Andrew, asked Him privately.

As He sat OPPOSITE the temple.

"And as he sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign when all these things are about to be accomplished?”​

No noble stones, no costly offerings.

For at night He would lodge on the Mount called Olivet.

"Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. - John 8:2​

"And every day he was teaching in the temple, but at night he went out and lodged on the mount called Olivet. And early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him. - Luke 21:38-38​

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[for_his_glory]

That's excellent. And you are free to believe it. Some people are worried that it's happening now. And in that case, let what you say be a comfort to them. But Jesus said if you're willing to accept it, John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah.

You're technically correct in that it's past to our present. But how far past? I wasn't alive during WW1, or WW2. The Olivet starts in the 20th century. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. Me and a couple other guys figured out the empirical in 2015 on another forum. It was the most exciting thread that I'd ever participated on. I still think you can start to figure it out too, if I can point you in the right direction.

Price action makes for market commentary. This is where we trade the charts, do not trade a story, because there's a lot of stories out there. For us to fly by instrumentation in the Biblical Prophecy world, our focus has to be on the 18 prophetic time periods found in Daniel and Revelation. Even though there's no specific mention of a prophetic time period in Matthew and Mark's Olivet, Jesus did direct us to an "abomination" spoken of by the prophet Daniel. It has a 1290 day duration that, when identified, will force the doctrine, the market commentary, on where the "earth" is that helped the "woman", where the "holy place" is where the abomination ought not to be standing, and exactly what that "abomination" is. And it will show us where Matthew and Mark's Olivet is in time.

"And every day he was teaching in the temple, but at night he went out and lodged on the mount called Olivet. And early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him. - Luke 21:38-38​

But Luke 21 is not the Olivet. I know that's not what you've always been taught since time immemorial. Luke 21 was the morning and the day before the Olivet discourse. Luke 21 found Jesus sitting INSIDE the temple, looking at the precious stones and offerings from INSIDE the temple. He was sitting in an area INSIDE the temple, a place called the women's court. That's where the treasury was. That's where the poor widow was putting her coin into when Jesus "looked up". It was full of people, all the disciples were there, early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him .

"These words He spoke in the treasury, as He taught in the temple; and no one seized Him, because His hour had not yet come. John 8:20​

Matthew 24 was different. It was at the end of the day. Jesus was "leaving the temple and walking away. The "noble stones and offerings" were no longer visible from outside the temple. When the disciples pointed out to Jesus the buildings (plural) of the temple. He answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

“Do you not see all these things?​

No different than looking at this:

“Do you not see all these things?​

Or this:

You see all these things? There will not be left here, (on planet earth), one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.

They then made their way down the temple mount, across the Kidron Valley, and up to the mount called Olivet. A 20 minute walk to this day. It would have been getting dark by then. It was just Jesus alone with His disciples. All the people who came to see Him in the temple had gone home. There were no poor widows putting money into the treasury jars. No scribes or pharisees hanging on His every word. Even two thirds of the disciples were going to sleep. But four of the disciples were concerned. They must have been troubled by Jesus' words: “You see ALL these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” Did just 4 of the disciples get it? Were they remembering the old Day of the lord prophecies where the earth would stagger to and fro like a drunkard? The earth is violently broken? The earth is split open? A foreboding sense of gravity must have befallen the third of them.

The earth is violently broken,​

The earth is split open,​

The earth is shaken exceedingly.​

The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard,​

And shall totter like a hut;​

Its transgression shall be heavy upon it,​

And it will fall, and not rise again.​

(Every mountain and island moved out of it's place)

So just 4 disciples, Peter, James, John, and Andrew, asked Him privately.

As He sat OPPOSITE the temple.

"And as he sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign when all these things are about to be accomplished?”​

No noble stones, no costly offerings.

For at night He would lodge on the Mount called Olivet.

"Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. - John 8:2​

"And every day he was teaching in the temple, but at night he went out and lodged on the mount called Olivet. And early in the morning all the people came to him in the temple to hear him. - Luke 21:38-38​

Peaceful Sabbath.

In all reality we, as in the past, are seeing these things unfold on a greater scale throughout every generation. Prophecy is past, present and future as in what the Prophets prophesized that we read in the OT. The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple was yet future from the day Jesus told the disciples not one stone would be standing and they witnessed that in 70AD which makes it past prophecy being fulfilled, but yet also future as this world waxes worse and worse.

As I mentioned before about the Luciferian system that controls world wide economics, political, military, educational, environmental and false religious system started with Satan working through Nimrod who was the first king of Babylon and continues even today with the last abomination that will come to fruition when the son of perdition takes his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years in the end of days causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death for not renouncing Christ Jesus.

From the time of the Olivet discourse we read about in Matthew 24 the disciples asked three questions. Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Jesus first tells them to not be deceived and then continues to answer their questions. Many of those answers are past, present and future as the disciples would see many of these things in their lifetime as well as we see the increase in our lifetime and the future generations. We are not to fear that which must come first, but to be prepared to endure all that must come first before the return of Christ. These are times of standing in a greater faith and trusting in the Lord as His grace is suffient when we are weak as He will make us strong.

Past, present and future until the coming of the Lord.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple was yet future from the day Jesus told the disciples not one stone would be standing and they witnessed that in 70AD which makes it past prophecy being fulfilled, but yet also future as this world waxes worse and worse.

It is true when you say, "The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple was yet future from the day Jesus told the disciples not one stone would be standing, but the "not one stone standing", was not talking about the destruction of Jerusalem. The "not one stone standing" was talking about the end of the world, still yet to come.

In Luke 21, Jesus was talking about two different things, the destruction of Jerusalem, and the end of the world. In Matthew 24, and Mark 13's Olivet, Jesus is talking about just one thing, the end of the world still yet to come.

This from Luke 21:

"And while some were speaking of the temple, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings​

Is not the same as from Matthew 24, when Jesus was leaving the temple and walking away:

"when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings.​

The Noble Stones

When Jesus was sitting inside the temple in Luke 21, all the people could see the noble stones and gifts, which were only visible from inside the temple.

"The marble shards were found in material illegally removed from the Temple Mount by the Jordanian Waqf’s excavations for a mosque and then dumped in the nearby Kidron Valley. The Temple Mount Sifting Project, headed by Zachi Dvira and Dr. Gabriel Barkay, has been meticulously searching through the material since 2004 with funding from the City of David Foundation and operating under the wing of the Israel Parks and Nature Authority. The project is attempting to salvage whatever archaeological artifacts it can.​

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Among other finds, approximately 600 colored stone floor tile pieces have been uncovered, with many of them securely dated to the Herodian Second Temple period (Herod reigned c. 37-4 BC). Herod’s expansion of the Temple made it one of the wonders of the ancient world.​

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Magnificent Flooring From Jerusalem’s Second Temple Unearthed - Patterns of Evidence: The Moses Controversy

"Amazing new discoveries at Jerusalem’s Temple Mount are providing evidence of the Second Temple from the time of King Herod. "This represents the first time that we can see with our own eyes the splendor of the flooring that decorated the Second Temple and its annexes 2,000 years ago” said Dr...

www.patternsofevidence.com

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Archaeologists restore Second Temple flooring from Waqf's trash

Experts recreate geometrically patterned marble floor tiles by piecing together ancient fragments of stone. The result recalls the Talmudic teaching that 'whoever has not seen Herod's building has not seen a beautiful building in his life.'

www.haaretz.com

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In Luke 21, they were looking at thousands of these noble stones:

Jesus may have walked on these actual floor tiles.

Hundreds of them survived right up until the late 90's when the Islamic Waqf renovated areas on the temple mount that they were in control of. Archaeologists painstakingly reassembled the tiles from shards they collected that were cast into the Kidron Valley by the Dome of the Rock people in 1999.

"The finds fit with the record of First century historian Josephus who wrote, “… the uncovered [Temple Mount courtyard] was completely paved with stones of various types and colors…” (The Jewish War 5:2).​

“The tile segments were perfectly inlaid... one could not even insert a sharp blade between them," she told Haaretz.​

In Matthew 24's Olivet, it was not adorned with beautiful stones and donations.

There were no poor widows.

At night He went out to lodge on the mount called Olivet.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Then why are you not allowing me to understand Revelation my way.

I am glad I am not the only one who says this. Sorry you are as well but it is a comfort to me not to be alone in not being allowed to understand Revelation my way.

That is not a quote from Rev 2:20...

"A warning to unbelievers"... then why is it address to the Churches? That would strike me as a fundamental error in your evaluation of the text.

Unbelievers are not reading Revelation in any case and since it says in the first verse that it is for the church, that they understand, being for unbelievers is indeed a fundamental error. I agree.

"Centred around Israel"? Why is Revelation directed to the Churches then?
John wouldn't recognise "it" he was transcribing what he saw.

There is a theology that has returned that the Pharisees held and that was that the Jews would eventually rule the world from Jerusalem through the all powerful Messiah. So one can see that this theology would lead someone to think the book of Revelation, that actually hardly mentions Israel and most of that is very negative (called "Sodom"), is about Israel being center and the place from which the Messiah will rule the world in the next age.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The fact that the events described took place within a few years is a hint as to what "soon" meant.

The word used to obviously say "quickly" is "tacheon" in the Greek. The word used to say "soon" is "techia" which obvious have the same root but are not the same word. So I doubt one can just interchange the meaning.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

It seems to me that using local and temporary inflation as a fulfillment of prophesy is dangerous. Inflation between 1917-1920 in the US as a whopping 17%. This is so much worse than now it begs the question is that wasn't the black horse? But then the rest of the events did not happen. So if are ignorant of history, we can be really fooled by any eschatology.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The black horse....what was the black horse? Obviously famine or lack of food. What happened in 70AD in Jerusalem that matches the black horse? The report from Josephus was that the famine in the city was so bad that men were eating their belts. At least one mother roasted her baby and ate it. Mothers were snatching food out of the husband's mouth and children's mouths. Gangs roamed the street entering homes looking for food and beating those inside until they gave up their food. If they were given food, they then beat them harder for withholding food at first.

Now this occurred not because the siege was so long, it wasn't. But because the city had descended into chaos and rival Jewish gangs fought each other for control. (This is what the heavenly bodies losing their light means...it means the political destruction of a people which means chaos.) What they did (very foolishly) is find the grain stores of the rival gangs and burned it all up. They were logically located in different parts of the city so in revenge or as a tactic to win, they each burned the food of the other. If they hadn't burn up their own food, they could have help out for years. So this was the black horse and it is a record of history. I doubt any current inflation can match that horror.

 

[miamited]

It seems to me that using local and temporary inflation as a fulfillment of prophesy is dangerous. Inflation between 1917-1920 in the US as a whopping 17%. This is so much worse than now it begs the question is that wasn't the black horse? But then the rest of the events did not happen. So if are ignorant of history, we can be really fooled by any eschatology.

Hi Dorothy Mae

Surely, anytime we discuss prophecies that haven't yet been fulfilled, we need to be careful. But you seem to see what I'm talking about as some static event that I'm just trying to pin to today's inflation struggle. No!!! Not at all!! These periods of inflation as you have pointed out, occur fairly regularly over time. My understanding is that the horsemen who is diddling with these effects has been out riding since shortly after Jesus ascended into heaven.

So please, I'm not trying to say that this inflationary period today is the sign that the horseman is loose. No, the inflationary periods all across history for the last 2,000 years and all of the times of plague and famine and death from diseases over the last 2,000 years are all the work of that horseman who has been and is still riding.

God bless,
Ted

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Hi Dorothy Mae

Surely, anytime we discuss prophecies that haven't yet been fulfilled, we need to be careful. But you seem to see what I'm talking about as some static event that I'm just trying to pin to today's inflation struggle. No!!! Not at all!! These periods of inflation as you have pointed out, occur fairly regularly over time. My understanding is that the horsemen who is diddling with these effects has been out riding since shortly after Jesus ascended into heaven.

So please, I'm not trying to say that this inflationary period today is the sign that the horseman is loose. No, the inflationary periods all across history for the last 2,000 years and all of the times of plague and famine and death from diseases over the last 2,000 years are all the work of that horseman who has been and is still riding.

God bless,
Ted

Nice post Ted!!

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Some people lack knowledge, they dont understand. Revelation 6:5. . This is the third seal. Its inflation. The federal reserve raised interest rates 6 times this year, 2022. Have you noticed food went up?? Other items went up. A person would have sleeping sickness, spirtualty, not to see bible prophecy align with current events. And Amos chapter 8, is famine, its spirtual, its rampant false preachers teaching traditions of men and false doctrine. The seals of revelation are not in chronological order. The seals align with Jesus teaching of Matthew chapter 24, 7 signs of end times. I documented this and told the truth. If you reject it, it's your choice.

Shouldn’t the temple be rebuilt before the horsemen start their run?

 

[LOTS Creed]

Shouldn’t the temple be rebuilt before the horsemen start their run?

The temple of God is the human body and not a physical temple (Christians are the third temple), which Jesus stated in the following scripture:

19 Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
20 Then the Jews said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?"
21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body 22 Therefore, when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said. (John 2:19-22 New King James Version NKJV)

Dr. Claudia Albers states "Jesus' body was the temple of God and humanity as a whole is the temple of God, because we were created to be inhabited by God and we do not feel satisfied and complete without having God on the inside."
The temple of God is the human body of those that have the Holy Spirit within them:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 New King James Version (NKJV)
19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Corinthians 6:16 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
"I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people."

To obtain more information on these subjects, please go to the website:
LOTS Creed

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The temple of God is the human body and not a physical temple (Christians are the third temple), which Jesus stated in the following scripture:

19 Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
20 Then the Jews said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?"
21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body 22 Therefore, when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said. (John 2:19-22 New King James Version NKJV)

Dr. Claudia Albers states "Jesus' body was the temple of God and humanity as a whole is the temple of God, because we were created to be inhabited by God and we do not feel satisfied and complete without having God on the inside."
The temple of God is the human body of those that have the Holy Spirit within them:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 New King James Version (NKJV)
19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Corinthians 6:16 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
"I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people."

To obtain more information on these subjects, please go to the website:
LOTS Creed

So how is the abomination of desolation going to be standing in that temple? And how are people to recognize it in the inside of others and why would they flee Jerusalem if they could?

 

[LOTS Creed]

2011 Trumpets Sounds Heard in Kiev, Ukraine (Warning Signs 1 Corinthians 15) - Watch
1 year ago
Comment on that website (1 year ago):
Funny how the start of the trumpets 10 years ago would be in Kiev, the exact place where world war 3 may start. All the other sky trumpets came after the Kiev ones. I remember the day this was posted and I knew it meant something ominous then. Seeing it getting fulfilled now is shocking. I wish more people would do videos on this. Thank you for being the only one to post on this so far.

A Cross Appears in the Sky Above Kuzbass in Russia Last Week - Watch
Jan 24, 2022

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