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The true teachings of Jesus

There are gods many but one Lord Jesus to us, stick to the simplicity in Christ..



1 Corinthians 8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
 
That's your opinion. But I don't recall anyone at the Kingdom Hall feeling pride because they alone "had the truth." Rather they spend many hours going door to door, and standing on street corners, to publish what they believe is the truth, wanting to share it.

But believe what you will.


The Apostles published the truth with proof, where is anyone elses..


2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
8 By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true;
9 As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;
10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
11 O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
12 Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
13 Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.
 
Why be stuck up on the beginning of the Gospel, that makes no sense, go to the end of it to see the part we are to focus on.( the rising from the dead of Christ our Lord)
Because they believe Jesus rose from the dead (even though their understanding there is false) and John 1:1c is a specific sticking point for JWs. Their Christology is based on this false translation of John 1:1c; it is at the core of their erroneous teachings. All their errors flow from not understanding that Jesus is truly God, in addition to being truly man.
 
My point was, Lord means YHVH. Is God inferior to David because God is at Davids' right hand? David is simply saying God is his strength, his power, his everything. Ok?
I'm grateful Jesus is at his Fathers' right hand.

Rev.6 has nothing to do with our Lord being coronated.
He wasn't crowned by sinners, that's for sure. Well, not until we found out about him, but make no mistake, he was born King,

Rejoice, ye heavens, with him, and let all the angels of God worship him; rejoice ye Gentiles, with his people Deu.32:43

The point is, Jesus spread the gospel to gentiles, so we would know how great he is now and was when Abraham knew him.
Talk about a man of faith! I couldn't carry that guys jock strap.

Jesus came to help Israel. They rejected him so they were cut off( Matt 23:38-39) After he died the message was spread to the gentiles.
 
Because they believe Jesus rose from the dead (even though their understanding there is false) and John 1:1c is a specific sticking point for JWs. Their Christology is based on this false translation of John 1:1c; it is at the core of their erroneous teachings. All their errors flow from not understanding that Jesus is truly God, in addition to being truly man.


If we do not believe in the heart to righteousness, we also do not believe that Christ rose form the dead( that He is God and was justified in the flesh) and if we believe in righteousness, we do no unrighteousness




1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.


2 Timothy 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
 
Jesus came to help Israel. They rejected him so they were cut off( Matt 23:38-39) After he died the message was spread to the gentiles.


Israel was cut off in pride, so we dont be highminded and fall after that same example of unbelief( pride is unbelief)



Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
 
So I guess you refuse to address or believe the scriptures I presented for discussion.


Words of Christ in red -


Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Revelation 1:7-8


I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
Revelation 1:10-11


And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
Revelation 1:17-18


And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”
Revelation 22:12-13


“Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts:
I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:6


Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.

Isaiah 48:12


Based on the scriptures above, do you believe Jesus and His testimony that He is the Alpha and Omega, the First and Last, the Beginning and the End?




  • Jesus Christ is Lord; YHWH, the Lord God Almighty.

He is coming again, with all His saints.


Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the LORD my God will come,
And all the saints with You.

Zechariah 14:5




JLB

No it is not Jesus at Rev 1:8--It is his Father-YHWH
Jesus hands the kingdom back to his God and Father( 1 Cor 15:24-28) at the ending of Rev 20-- Rev 22 is about his Father-YHWH.
Isaiah 44--LORD= YHWH not Jesus. The word LORD does not belong, i explained that reality to you.
Zec=YHWH

That is why you are confused, using satan altered translations that mislead one not to enter Gods kingdom.
 
Yes, the paramount first and foremost foundational will of the Father is that you first love the Son.
Absent of love for the Savior, all subsequent transactions intended to align one's self with the most High God are foundationless, and are as detestable filthy rags presented to God by the spiritually barren.


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Jhn 21:15
"So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me....."

Of course one has to Love Jesus. The bible teaches, proof of ones love for Jesus is by obeying him= Every teaching. John 3:36 is clear-Those not obeying Jesus remain in Gods wrath. At 1John 5:3-- proof of ones love for God is by obeying his commandments. So its not words that prove much its actions.
 
No it is not Jesus at Rev 1:8--It is his Father-YHWH
Jesus hands the kingdom back to his God and Father( 1 Cor 15:24-28) at the ending of Rev 20-- Rev 22 is about his Father-YHWH.
Isaiah 44--LORD= YHWH not Jesus. The word LORD does not belong, i explained that reality to you.
Zec=YHWH

That is why you are confused, using satan altered translations that mislead one not to enter Gods kingdom.

Jesus sends His angel to testify to us, God sends His angel, WHICH IS WHICH


Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
 
Thomas called Jesus THE GOD in John 20:28

ἀπεκρίθη Θωμᾶς, καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ, Ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ θεός μου.-John 20:28, Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, Produced by the New World Translation Committee, 1969 (Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania, 1969 )

As for apostate Abner Kneeland he also denied the virgin birth and tailored his translations to fit that belief. He became a pantheist, which is close to the polytheism of the Jehovah's Witnesses, with their belief in THE GOD and "a god" side by side in John 1:1.

As Jehovah's Witnesses also refer to demons as "a gods" one could make the case JW's believe in a panthenon of gods like ancient pagan Greeks. They have a huge Jehovah God in a big spirit body on top and lesser gods in smaller spirit bodies below him.

Their idea is similar to modern day Spiritualists and other pagan religions that believe in a Chief god among a pantheon of lesser gods or angels.

"While there are physical bodies visible and palpable, there are also spiritual bodies, invisible to human eyes and entirely beyond human senses. (1 Cor. 15:44) The bodies of spiritual persons (God, Christ, the angels) are glorious...The true God is not omnipresent."--Aid To Bible Understanding, p. 247, 665 (Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1971)


Abner Kneeland, Forgotten American Translator (and Apostate)​

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Who was Abner Kneeland? He was the last man convicted of blasphemy in the United States of America. As a Unitarian preacher (ordained in 1805), Kneeland received some instruction from Hosea Ballou. Kneeland demonstrated a visionary attitude regarding the rights of woman, and the equality of all ethnic groups. He led congregations in New Hampshire, Massaachusetts, New York, and Philadelphia, before breaking away from Christianity altogether in 1829. By 1830 he was openly advocating pantheism.

In 1833, Kneeland published an essay in which he stated, among other things, “Universalists believe in Christ, which I do not; but believe that the whole story concerning him is as much a fable and fiction as that of the god Prometheus.” As a result, he was arrested in 1834 on the charge of blasphemy, and was found guilty; he appealed the decision, but it was affirmed by the Massachusetts Supreme Court in 1838, and, despite calls for clemency from individuals such as William Ellery Channing, Kneeland served 60 days in jail.

In 1839, Kneeland moved to Iowa, intending to start a sort of colony with some of his followers, called Salubria. (One of Kneeland’s earlier associates, Frances Wright, had attempted something similar in Tennessee, the short-lived Nashoba Commune). After Kneeland’s death there in 1844, the Salubria colony dissolved.

And that is that. But before all the controversy about Kneeland’s departure from Unitarianism, he made an English translation in 1823, based on the text compiled by Johann Jakob Griesbach. Kneeland used as his model the “Improved Version” made by Thomas Belsham in 1808, which was largely dependent on the 1796 work of Anglican Archbishop William Newcome, An Attempt Toward Revising Our English Translation of the Greek Scriptures.

In this translation, Kneeland demonstrated how the adoption of specific variants, combined with his own translational preferences, could yield a New Testament with doctrinal content significantly different from the King James Version, so as to fit his denial of the virgin birth, his denial of the existence of demons and hell, and so forth. In a brief preface, Kneeland relegated the books of Hebrews, James, Second Peter, Second John, Third John, Jude, and Revelation to a secondary status, calling them “Disputed Books” which are “not to be alleged as affording along sufficient proof of any doctrine.”

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Likewise, some criticisms made against the Watchtower Society’s New World Translation also apply to some of Kneeland’s renderings; most notably in John 1:1, which Kneeland rendered, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God,” and in Hebrews 1:8a, which Kneeland rendered, “But to the Son he saith, “God is thy throne.” When we look at Kneeland’s systematic avoidance of the term “hell” in his translation, we see in the New World Translation (and in the NIV to a large extent) the same avoidance.

As a simple point of history, deviations from the Textus Receptus and deviations from orthodoxy have gone hand in hand; let anyone who says otherwise take a close look at the Unitarian texts, and Unitarian teachings, of the early 1800s in New England, as exemplified by Abner Kneeland’s translation, and his subsequent total apostasy.


Of course they call Kneeland an apostate. He exposed the trinity religions as false. He was 100% correct. They are a house divided, they will not stand. Jesus is not with a divided house( 1 Cor 1:10)

Again you err. Small g god is not calling that one a God. Only capitol G God is God. (Exodus 7:1 God called Moses the God of Pharoah. He wasnt God. (Psalm 82:6-- God calls the angels god.) Small g god does not make that one a god. It means they have godlike qualities.
 
Jesus said "The Father and I are one.” John 10:30 It doesn't say "one in purpose"; it says "one", meaning one in identity.

In fact this extends to His body, the church: "I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them safe in your name that you have given me, so that they may be one just as we are one." John 17:11

And John 17:20-21, "“I am not praying only on their behalf, but also on behalf of those who believe in me through their testimony, that they will all be one, just as you, Father, are in me and I am in you. I pray that they will be in us, so that the world will believe that you sent me."

It truly saddens me that either a) you don't understand this or b) (which is worse), that you do understand it but lack the faith to believe it. It is the fundamental truth of Christianity. God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), God the Holy Spirit, and those who have believed the truth and received the Holy Spirit are all ONE!

John 5:30 shows its one in purpose. Yes the true followers will be one with them in purpose( Matt 7:21--and just like Jesus all true followers will live now doing Jesus Fathers will over their own will.
If they are one as you are believing why isnt it living now to do the Father, Jesus and Holy spirits will, but its only the Fathers will. Because its fact--The Father is greater than i just as Jesus said. One cannot be greater if they are one like you are mislead to believe.
 
Deu 32:39 "'See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.

Isa 43:10 "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.

Isa 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

Isa 44:8 Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are my witnesses! Is there a God besides me? There is no Rock; I know not any."

Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God; I equip you, though you do not know me,
Isa 45:6 that people may know, from the rising of the sun and from the west, that there is none besides me; I am the LORD, and there is no other.

Isa 45:21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me.
Isa 45:22 "Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.

Isa 46:9 remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me,

(All ESV.)

Clearly then, there is no such thing as another "God" or "god." Or are you and the Watchtower claiming to know something that God himself doesn't know?

Every spot in OT where-GOD or LORD all capitols-YHWH belongs there. Satans will had Gods name removed. God put his name there because he wants it there. Your translations are altered to mislead. The JW,s dont teach any other true God beside-YHWH(Jehovah) --all know false gods exist and are being worshipped-Jesus warned of them-John 4:22-24 as did Paul-1Cor 8:5-6, then both told all who the true God is, both spots only the Father is called God.
 
Israel was cut off in pride, so we dont be highminded and fall after that same example of unbelief( pride is unbelief)



Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Matt 23:39--Until they bless the Messiah=Jesus they are cut off. They have outright refused for over 1950 years. They never will.
 
Jesus sends His angel to testify to us, God sends His angel, WHICH IS WHICH


Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
All who know how it works--YHWH does it all through Jesus. Rev 22 :16 is Jesus, but the Alpha and Omega part is not. You see at Acts 3:19, 1 Cor 8:5-6--It was God who did all the things through Jesus-That is how it works. So it can say God sent an angel as well as Jesus sent an angel.
It also says in The OT that YHWH alone created all things. But he created those things through Jesus. Thus alone means. YHWH is the only power source, it was by his will and power all things were created. Just showing Jesus didnt deserve credit for what only God could do. It worked the same with Moses. YHWH(Jehovah_ parted the red sea, Moses didnt. Moses couldnt without YHWH doing it through him. Moses doesnt deserve the credit, YHWH does. And that is how Jesus felt as well-John 5:30--He could do 0 of his own inititive.
 
Of course one has to Love Jesus. The bible teaches, proof of ones love for Jesus is by obeying him= Every teaching. John 3:36 is clear-Those not obeying Jesus remain in Gods wrath. At 1John 5:3-- proof of ones love for God is by obeying his commandments. So its not words that prove much its actions.
My point is that while it is very possible to strive to obey His commandments , with great fanfare even, all the while having absolutely no love for the Savior whatsoever.
However it is impossible to have love for the Savior and not strive to keep His commandments.
I have no doubt that Judas made quite a show of his commandment keeping for instance.

Jhn 21:15
"So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me....."
 
Every spot in OT where-GOD or LORD all capitols-YHWH belongs there. Satans will had Gods name removed. God put his name there because he wants it there. Your translations are altered to mislead.
Firstly, none of that addresses the point I was making. Why don't you even try to address my points? Secondly, that LORD replaces YHWH has nothing to do with God's name being removed; it's because we speak English and the OT was written in Hebrew. Thirdly, God's name isn't Yahweh or Jehovah either. Those are transliterations whose pronunciations are probably not accurate. It is absolutely irrelevant whether translations say LORD, Yahweh, or Jehovah, since the Hebrew is YHWH and that is what they are all referring to.

The JW,s dont teach any other true God beside-YHWH(Jehovah) --all know false gods exist
But JWs teach that the Word was "a god." That is another god or, to be consistent, do you want to now say that the Word is a false god? JWs have two choices: 1) the Word is another god, and so believe in polytheism, or 2) the Word is a false god, in which case, John 1:1 makes no sense.

and are being worshipped-Jesus warned of them-John 4:22-24 as did Paul-1Cor 8:5-6, then both told all who the true God is, both spots only the Father is called God.
What does the Bible say about who is to be worshiped? I think we can both agree that it is blasphemous to worship false gods:

Exo 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Exo 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,

Exo 34:14 (for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God),

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
Mat 4:9 And he said to him, "All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me."
Mat 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, "Be gone, Satan! For it is written, "'You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.'"


But then we see many instances of Jesus being worshiped:

Mat 2:11 And going into the house they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.

Mat 14:31 Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?"
Mat 14:32 And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased.
Mat 14:33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."
(It is very important to also note here the use of "the Son of God".)

Mat 28:8 So they departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples.
Mat 28:9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, "Greetings!" And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.
...
Mat 28:16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them.
Mat 28:17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted.

Luk 24:50 Then he led them out as far as Bethany, and lifting up his hands he blessed them.
Luk 24:51 While he blessed them, he parted from them and was carried up into heaven.
Luk 24:52 And they worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy,

Joh 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"
Joh 9:36 He answered, "And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?"
Joh 9:37 Jesus said to him, "You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you."
Joh 9:38 He said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him.
(Note that the context begins with Jesus miraculously healing of a man born blind and then asking the man if he believed "in the Son of Man.)

Heb 1:6 And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."


But what happens when other people or angels are worshiped?

Act 10:25 When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him.
Act 10:26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, "Stand up; I too am a man."

Rev 19:9 And the angel said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb." And he said to me, "These are the true words of God."
Rev 19:10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Neither Peter nor the angel (rightly) accepted worship from people. Interestingly, though, Jesus accepted worship that was due to God alone, and didn't correct people when they did that, which would be blasphemy if he wasn't also truly God. Which brings me to 1 Cor 8:6:

1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

That is Paul expanding on the Shema, with both the Father and the Son included:

Deu 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

You will also notice that "all things came" from the Father and "all things came" through Jesus, the Son. Again, like John 1:3 and Col 1:16-17, there is only one logical conclusion: Jesus cannot be one of those things or those verses are lying.
 
Again you err. Small g god is not calling that one a God. Only capitol G God is God.
Koine NT Greek originally was in capital letters.

Your argument the definite article THE GOD is missing in John 1:1 is contradicted by John 20:28 even in the Watch Tower's own Greek Text:

ἀπεκρίθη Θωμᾶς, καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ, Ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ θεός μου.-John 20:28, Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, Produced by the New World Translation Committee, 1969 (Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania, 1969 )
 
Well, not all Jews rejected our Lord. Not seeing Jesus until we learn to say, "Blessed is he who comes in his name", is true of all of us. It's an admission of humility.

Yes, but it speaks of the real Jesus. there are about 4 different ones being taught in this world. And Israel has outright refused to bless him. Spiritual Israel is Gods chosen now, not Literal Israel.
 
My point is that while it is very possible to strive to obey His commandments , with great fanfare even, all the while having absolutely no love for the Savior whatsoever.
However it is impossible to have love for the Savior and not strive to keep His commandments.
I have no doubt that Judas made quite a show of his commandment keeping for instance.

Jhn 21:15
"So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me....."

Yes just because one stands, they can fall. Israel fell over and over in the OT. Solomon fell to false god worship in his end.
 
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