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From what I was able to read of your poist it looks pretty good. It is true that the day of pentecost was a special miracle, where the nations each one heard he ENTIRE group speaking in their language.
I mean imagine that, a spanish persons says "They are ALL speaking in spanish" but the Russian guy saysd "I hear that they are speaking in Russian" Pretty cool deal, and certainly rather convincing to them since there were 3,000 saved that day.
Oh and I would add too that this was the fullment of the words of Jesus when he said "Power will fall on you..." in order that they would be witnesses to him in all the NATIONS, interesting that all the NATIONS were there in that one place, at that exact time. That is God for you.
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Again you need to read the entire chapter and take it all in context, I am telling you that Paul was not a big fan of tongues as you suspose he was.
1 Corinthians 14
Gifts of Prophecy and Tongues
1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts,
especially the gift of prophecy.
Paul was a fan of prophecy, not of tongues
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue[1] does not speak to men but to God. Indeed,
no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.[2]
Pay attention to the words here, no one understands him. This is the important thing being said here/[quote:5e5cf]
3 But everyone who
prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.
[quote:5e5cf]NOw we are getting to the root of things, a prophesy does a body (the body of Christ
) good
4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.
Careful now we have to pay attention to the matter at hand, is it tongues? NO, the matter is that tongues do not edify the body, while prophesy does
5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,[3] but I would
rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is
greater than one who speaks in tongues,[4]
unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified.
A tongue is a language and certainly Paul would have liked all men to preach the gospel in many languages, but notice what is still being said here. Prophecy is better then tongues becuase it edifies, and unless some interprets that tongue it is no good to the body
6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues,
what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
What good will I be? Again the point is made that tongues are no good when they are not understood, it is better to bring a revelation, knowledge, prophecy, or a word of Instructions, the issue is still the same. Tongues are no good if they are not understood.
7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the flute or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes?
because when someone just make noise with out and decernable melody it is utterly anoying.
8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?
[quote:5e5cf]Now Paul used this illustration, to ask the same question. Being a mucian I like this. But when there is melody it causes a reaction. Tongues that are nonesence are just a source of anoyance and distraction.
9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying?
You will just be speaking into the air.
To the air, in other words you are waisting your time/[quote:5e5cf]
10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning.
[quote:5e5cf] What did he say, all sorts of languages and each one with a meaning. Uhmmmmm tongues and now he says that languages have meaning, I see tongues and languages same thing
11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me.
again, points out the uselessness of not understanding what is being said
12 So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts,
try to excel in gifts that build up the church.
Well look at that, after Paul made the point that tongues DO NOT edify the body, he says hey great that you want the gifts, but excel in gifts that build (edify) the Church. And that is not tongues, as he has made it clear that unless tongues are interpreted they are useless, as noise making things, with out any melody
13 For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says.
For what reason? That gifts are for the building of the Church and tongues unless they are understood do not build the church.
14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind.
And here we are even in our selves tongues are useless if we do not understand them.
16 If you are praising God with your spirit, how can one who finds himself among those who do not underst and[5]
say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying?
Still making the same point, what is the use of tongues that no on understands. NONE
17 You may be giving thanks well enough,
but the other man is not edified.
What did he say about this ? "try to excel in gifts that build up the church"
18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.
19 But in the church I would
rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
How can you escape the point? Tongues are useless when they are not understood. And I would add to that you often post the part of a verse where he says that he would like us all to speak in tongues, but seeing here that he would rather speak intelligible words, then he certainly did not mean that every one should babble on
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Well, I know that even now you ar still going to stand fast in your doctrinal presumption, even after I have shown you the context here.
