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Wearing the right shoes, and properly clothed spiritually?
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CAN A REFORMED BELIEVER FALL AWAY FROM FAITH?
- Thread starter GodsGrace
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There are many.....
No One Is Righteous
Rom 3:9 What then? Are we better? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
Rom 3:10 as it is written, “THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
Rom 3:12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME WORTHLESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE.”
Rom 3:13 “THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN TOMB, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING,” “THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS”;
Rom 3:14 “WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS”;
Rom 3:15 “THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
Rom 3:16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
Rom 3:17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN.”
Rom 3:18 “THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.”
One of many.....
Rom 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
Rom 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Joh 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish—ever; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
That's just your pride. I used to believe that I chose the Lord as well.
Its all good, no hard feelings.
easy brother i know the life i lived all though you have parts of it right pride kept me from being saved. even though the Spirit was drawing . i didnt like the evangelist didnt really care about church. see before i went to the altar .the still small voice spoke to me saying its NOW or never. i chose the now .the sprit breathed new life into me
Yes, He gave you the faith to believe and and understand, God's Spirit quickened you.
Praise God.
thats your story say it how you want . here is something to chew on IF God choses us to salvation . then there is no need of the altar call or the preaching we just wait and see if we get picked to get saved
No one knows who the Lord has chosen. So, we need to preach the gospel.
so how do know ? i get it when were saved which is free will
May I ask why it is so important that you chose to be saved, why not give the Lord all the glory and the credit?
How does one interpret these verses if you chose salvation.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
Jethro Bodine
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The point was he said they have to be reached or they will go to hell if nobody reaches them.
Jethro Bodine
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It's not that man's will is absent in justification. It's just that man's will is not what solicits justification. God's forgiveness does. The privilege to be adopted as sons of God is not seized as a matter of a man's will. It is granted as a matter of God's mercy and grace. And we willingly receive it as he enables us to receive it.
he gets it all i have nothing to boast of .but that he save a no good person like me. i simply accepted the words God save me was what i said . it not complicated
Jethro Bodine
Member
Okay. Then that means Calvinism's claim that you have to first be born again to be enlightened is false.
There are those arguing that we can so hinder God .He needs permission to act on us.
He draws .that often includes making life miserable ,very miserable .
I find it extremely annoying that I have to defend the appropriateness the sources of my beliefs before you guys to get your approval. Either accept what I post or reject them on face value. I never question your right to form
your own conclusions using whatever sources you may choose. I may not agree, but nevertheless, it is your right to do so.
Anyway, I will say this: that I only read from and quote the Bible -- it is my sole spiritual authority. Have you ever observed me reference anything besides the Bible? What do you think that means? It is possible for different people to read the Bible and come to similar conclusions based upon scripture. Given that the Bible was written by God and that it can only contain only one overriding, fundamental principle, I would find it amazing should that not happen.
The remainder of your post, wondering, is unworthy of a reply
Jethro Bodine
Member
And you can never know. Because in Calvinism the sign that you are elected is that you endure all the way to the end. So you can never know until the end if you are of the elect. Meanwhile, in non-Calvinistic theology, you are saved right now, this very moment if you are believing. And you know if you are believing by if you have the changed/changing life that born again, believing people have.
yes he does
We cannot save ourselves.
There is only one Saviour. He was there in the beginning. He is with us now in spirit, and He paid the death penalty for all those who, in faith believe in Him, wretched sinners that we are, on Calvery's cross.
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