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Could God's plan for the lost be this simple?
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Sorry, i never open things like that.
Ha! But seriously, Perhaps John saw the Mascarene Rocket Frog because it can fly by expelling a jet of water from its bladder, propelling it forward. They populate the Nile.
More likely, the reports of Grey's etc., look froglike, so I made a logical leap. They could appear like the Nordics, like Swedes. But I'm a Swede, so it wasn't high on my list.
I didn't invent the "Designer" UFO delusion, Satan has inspired UFO cults preach it already.
And its overthrowing the faith of some. That is the best way to globally cause a loss of faith in God, a fleet of UFO ships arrive, ,piloted by Nephilim, Fallen Angels. The ones Michael kicked out of heaven, casting them to the earth. That they were cast to the earth is repeated, meaning it will happen.
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
12 "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. (Rev. 12:7-13 NKJ)
But seriously scripture doesn't mention flying frogs. That was your addition.
Logical Inferences. Spirits don't walk, they "glide" or "fly". They didn't drop to the earth coming out of their mouths, instead they "go out to the kings etc., Finally, not literal frogs, these spirits are "like [flying] frogs."
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
(Rev. 16:13-14 NKJ)
I believe Revelation is prophetic, with lots of symbolism. Its possible John saw demons disguised as Grey's etc. Dragon-like frogs following the Satan the Dragon.
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Got it. In other words you made the flying part up. That’s all I was asking- thanks.
Not flying like a bird, like a spirit. Not a big "made up" among things that can be made up. I didn't put them on rockets.
But if you prefer "flightless spirits", go for it.
Satan and his angels were cast to the earth after the war in heaven=the ride of the white horse of Rev 6= 1914-- He came as a devouring lion, angry knowing his time was short--It states--and peace was taken from the earth= Not a single war a world war. It also says he receives his crown=The presence( Matt 24:37)-Michael took the ride at the war in heaven, but only Jesus gets the crown, proving Jesus is Michael. The other 3 riders rode as well, after ww1, millions upon millions died all over the earth from other things mentioned of the other 3 riders.
Jesus is not Michael, 1914 was a failed prophecy of C. T. Russell, and Jehovah's Witnesses repeated his error, 1975 was their last failed prophecy.
Ok, I'm busted, can't be trusted.
The Bible alone is the authority.
Everything I say about the End will appear stupid, absurd, odd....until it happens. Then everything will fall into place, or I'll join all those other Christian expositors of Revelation that just got it wrong. Church library is filled with them.
But if you are aware of what's been happening with UFO's and UFO cults, where much of what I say is already being preached by contactees and alleged "aliens" (=spiritists and demons), it is reasonable Satan not spend so much time and energy on the deception unless it does play a role in the End Time apostasy of the Church.
They didnt prophecy, they tried to date a real prophecy made by God. That was their error, they have repented of that. 1Thess 4:16--upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel--Is it his voice or did Michael loan it to him? And who is standing up for Gods chosen here in these last days? Daniel 12:1 Michael is. It was Michael God sent to earth and was named Jesus as a mortal.
Have you not read our Matrix exists in the Word of God, who created all things?
14 in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. (Col. 1:14-17 NKJ)
The Word created Michael when He created ALL things:
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made (Jn. 1:3 NKJ)
The Society has long ago rebelled against the Word of God, and as happened to Saul, so Yahweh God has rejected her, she and all with her in rebellion against the LORD are rejected from being one of His Kings:
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, He also has rejected you from being king." (1 Sam. 15:23 NKJ)
Only those who obey the Bible the Word of God, can be a King for Christ in His Kingdom:
5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." (Rev. 1:5-8 NKJ)
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You have seen the movie "The Matrix", where Neo's world and friends were in a virtual reality?
Scripture's description of reality is analogous to a matrix. Not that our bodies are elsewhere, but our reality consists (is held together) by the Power of God's infinite Mind:
NKJ Colossians 1:17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
RPTE Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things are held together.
BBE Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things have being.
NIV Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Therefore, it is impossible Jehovah be like one of His angels, a finite creature. We and all creatures, including Michael the Archangel, "live and move and have our being" IN GOD, like Actors in a virtual reality albeit our reality is real:
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. (Acts 17:28 KJV)
I once studied with the Jehovah's Witnesses, but never became one because I learned they have rebelled against the Word of God the Bible, stubbornly rejecting it in favor of their own traditions just like the Pharisees:
For example, they say the Holy Spirit is God's active force. That is impossible, an active force is impersonal, cannot use personal pronouns "I" and "Me"
As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, "Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." (Acts 13:2 NKJ)
Also, they cite Ezekiel 18:4 to prove the soul that sins dies when the body dies. Well then, Ezekiel 18:9, 21 proves the repentant soul lives when the body dies:
4 "Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.
5 But if a man is just And does what is lawful and right;
6 If he has not eaten on the mountains, Nor lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, Nor defiled his neighbor's wife, Nor approached a woman during her impurity;
7 If he has not oppressed anyone, But has restored to the debtor his pledge; Has robbed no one by violence, But has given his bread to the hungry And covered the naked with clothing;
8 If he has not exacted usury Nor taken any increase, But has withdrawn his hand from iniquity And executed true judgment between man and man;
9 If he has walked in My statutes And kept My judgments faithfully-- He is just; He shall surely live!" Says the Lord GOD.
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21 "But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. (Ezek. 18:4-9, 21 NKJ)
Rebellion against the Word of God is the sin of witchcraft.
The Watchtower is infested with TARES, CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL; following doctrines of demons rather than the Word of God.
Talk to those who lived at the Tower, and you will know them by their fruits of debauchery and sin. They have made merchandise of their victims, peddling their lies on every street corner, beneath every tree.
An evil and wicked generation. It won't go well for them on the Day the LORD Jesus returns, to demand recompense for their deeds;
49 "So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 "and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
(Matt. 13:49-50 NKJ)
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Your translations have many errors. The one whom God created all other things through is his master worker of Prov 8, where he tells all he was created. Backed by Collosians 1:15-The FIRSTBORN of all creation. This is the being sent to earth. It is not God speaking at Prov 8.
Rev 1:8= YHWH)Jehovah) not Jesus.
Since by satans will Gods name was removed from translations-7000 places God willed his name in his bible. You probably missed this reality--I am YHWH(Jehovah) beside me( singular) there is no other God. Isaiah 44:6)--One should ask then, Why is my religions translation supporting satans will over Gods will?
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You cite the book of Revelation, but have you understood it?
For example, we both agree, there is only One Almighty God, only One Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end:
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." (Rev. 1:8 NKJ)
But have you not read Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega?
12 "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."
14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
15 But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
16 "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star." (Rev. 22:12-16 NKJ)
AND even in the NWT, the Holy Spirit commands the disciples, using personal pronouns "I" "Me"
As they publicly ministered to Jehovah and fasted, the holy spirit said, 'Separate Saul and Barnabus to ME for the work to which I have called them.'"-Acts 13:2 NWT
AND the soul that repents, shall NOT die when the body dies, he will live is the utterance of the LORD Jehovah:
But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
(Ezek. 18:21 KJV)
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Here are facts about Jesus proving he is not God--Psalm 45:7--Even the Israelites in the OT days knew the Messiah has a God, and his partners= angels
Hebrews 1:3-4--Inherited a name that made him better than the angels,) without inheriting that name was equal to them. God gave him that name by doing all the powerful works through Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:6
God is above our comprehension, He is infinite. In the One infinite ocean of essence that is God, are Three Personal Distinctions, Father Son and Holy Spirit.
God is One God, but as to Persons He is Three. Not three gods, One God IN three Persons.
Therefore, when God the Father has an "only begotten Son", the Son is not "sub-god" just as your son would not be "sub-human".
When the Son calls His Father "God", He does not deny He is also God, He is showing respect and love for the Eternal Father The "Monarch" of the Holy Trinity.
These things are beyond your comprehension now because you let the Watchtower Society program your mind.
When a Christian speaks to you, you don't hear them. In your mind is the "next argument the Society has programmed you to jump to."
You don't have ears to hear, because you have been subverted.
The Word of God makes no progress in you, because you only think about what you have read in the WatchTower.
But the Watchtower is not the Word of God, the Bible is.
Read again my responses to you these last three posts, and address what Scripture says. Stop ignoring God's Word for the sake of the Watchtower.
Rebellion against the Word of God is as the sin of witchcraft.
16 Bind up the testimony, Seal the law among my disciples.
17 And I will wait on the LORD, Who hides His face from the house of Jacob; And I will hope in Him.
18 Here am I and the children whom the LORD has given me! We are for signs and wonders in Israel From the LORD of hosts, Who dwells in Mount Zion.
19 And when they say to you, "Seek those who are mediums and wizards, who whisper and mutter," should not a people seek their God? Should they seek the dead on behalf of the living?
20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (Isa. 8:16-20 NKJ)
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Men out of error filled and altered translations tell you God is a trinity. Facts teach the opposite.
I dont ask you to believe me, believe Jesus-John 20:17, Rev 3:12, and Paul-Coll 1:3 Eph 1:13,17, and Peter-1Peter 1:3 all teach the Father is Jesus' God. God does not have a God nor is ever in subjection-1Cor 15:24-28--Your translations teach 2 different truths, 2 different Gods.
The Translations I cited are excellent.
The WatchTower has put a spell on you. They add their own words to scripture, and that tricks unwary minds into accepting the entire as "the Word of God."
The Watchtower magazine that is peddled on every street corner, is witchcraft, sorcery.
Satan is seated among the demon spirits in the Watchtower Parthenon of "spirit guides", that is seen by their own testimony where they claim God has a spirit body like the angels.
Their idea is similar to modern day Spiritualists and other pagan religions that believe in a Chief god among a pantheon of lesser gods or angels:
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