JackrabbitSlim
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Yes. I, have a copy of the Catechism in my library, along with the Koran and, I believe I still have, a copy of the Book of Morons as well. What are your thoughts on what I shared?You mean you did that work yourself?
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Yes. I, have a copy of the Catechism in my library, along with the Koran and, I believe I still have, a copy of the Book of Morons as well. What are your thoughts on what I shared?You mean you did that work yourself?
John's baptism wasn't for repentance "only".I would also say the unspiritual fleshly nature of man. There are two baptisms. One being John's for repentance only, prepare ye the way of the Lord, and the other being the Baptism of Christ who will baptize us with the Holy Spirit and fire.
Yes, but more importantly, natural, fleshly, unspiritual man precedes spiritual man. He is the man born first. He is Ishmael. He represents being born in the natural way according to the usual and expected way that a person is born into the kingdom - repentance to the law. But the man born second is the spiritual man. He is Isaac. He is born as the result of a promise completely out of order and against all natural expectation and hope:Physical birth precedes spiritual birth.
Going back to the OPHow is a biblical conflict solved?
Two honest and upright Christians reading a verse of scripture and holding opposing views as to its meaning:
Is one more valid and orthodox or authoritative than the other?
How is this conflict resolved so all parties can come to a biblical understanding and have a true and correct faith?
Examples:
Mk 16:16 only faith is required for salvation.
Mk 16:16 faith and baptism are required for salvation.
Jn 3:5 imply’s a spiritual baptism.
Jn 3:5 imply’s water baptism.
Matt 16:18 Peter’s confess is the rock upon which Christ builds His church.
Matt 16:18 Peter’s person is the rock upon which Christ builds His church.
Acts 8:36-38 salvation by faith, then the ordinance and public profession of faith by water baptism.
Acts 8:36-38 faith and baptism.
Going back to the OP
To this redneck:
The real confusion is the meaning of baptism.
What Does it Mean to “Baptize”? – Truth Magazine
www.truthmagazine.com
If we do not understand the Greek meaning we flounder around in our favorite religious definition.
As an addition to Greek word baptism.
What is the source of this opposition?donadams you need to expect others to oppose some of your beliefs and that is why there is a Catholic forum in order to discuss these beliefs of yours. This is the Biblical Growth and Study forum where we share the word of God, not by how the Roman Catholic Church believes, but what has already been written in the scriptures that make up the Bible. The Roman Catholic Church use to burn Bibles as they were forbidden to even own and read one. By the orders of the Roman hierarchy millions of Christians were killed in their crusades against Protestants.
When my nephew went through the Catechism and became a member of the Roman Catholic Church I bought him a Bible as a gift, but he was not allowed to accept it and that was back in the mid 70's. I know many Catholics who now use what you want to call the Protestant Bible, as you even say you use it along with your Catholic Bible, and they have found the heresies of the Roman Catholic doctrines with many that were of the Jesuit Priesthood exposing the heresies that do not line up with scripture, especially of the catechism, the idol worshipping and the secret societies that mainstream Catholics do not even know about.
I could show you facts of the Roman Catholic Church that would make one's skin crawl, but that is not what I am here for. Like I told JackrabbitSlim you can find that info in the End Times forum under the subforum Revelation and read Chapter 13 of the book I wrote. All the information I have in that chapter is from scripture, history and from a man that I have personally talked to that use to be to a very High Priest in the Jesuit order and now goes about exposing their heresies. You choose to refute the scriptures we give you as you would rather follow a man's doctrines instead of the doctrines of Christ and wonder why we oppose many things you believe as you have been indoctrinated in them.
I have nothing against you, but that of certain things you believe in and I pray the blinders will be taken off your eyes by that which we share with you in scripture.
The angel told Joseph to call his name Jesus. It says he did all the angel commanded.St Joseph never says a single word in scripture but always faithfully obeys in all humility and allows scripture to speak volumes for Him!
That verse refers to an apostle / bishop not the people who must be taught
Lk 1:4
Matt 28:19
Jn 20:21
Acts 8:31
Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…
No Christian has the authority to read scripture for yourself and decide your own doctrines or beliefs! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
And there is only one savior on covenant one church one Lord one faith one baptism for all men and all time till Christ returns
Lk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ( catholic universal) All men!
Lk 2:31 prepared before the face of all (catholic) people. All men!
Jn 1:29 lamb of God who takes way the sins of the world. All men!
Jn 3:16 for God so loved the world
1 Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. All men!
Lk 2: 10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. All men!
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. (All people universal) All men!
1 Tim 2:5 one mediator
Jn 10:16 One new covenant church
Only Jesus Christ has authority to found the church on Peter and the apostles! Matt 16:18-19 Matt 18:18
Jn 20:21 eph 2:20
All others are heretical sects the tradition of men!
The same OP question applies here.
What decides which version of a verse is of God?
You are born again because your spirit is dead to begin with which we inherited from Adam and Eve when they ate the forbidden fruit, that's why their naked because their spirit that is covering them died.Grace is received in baptism
Here’s the context of Jn 3:5
Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”
John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)
John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)
John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)
(Key verse! Actions speak louder than words: verse 22)
John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism / water)
John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.
Born again means Baptismal regeneration!
baptismal regeneration!
A new creation in Christ! 2 cor 5:17
Jn 1 JTB prepared the way by baptism!
Jn 2 the waters of purification are OT prefigurement of baptism!
Jn 3:5 born again means baptism
Jn 3:22 they immediately went to the river! Not to preach “accept Christ as personal lord and savior”
But to BAPTIZE!!!
My apologies but this seems to describe most of your posts here on CFnet.It is because they operate from a motive of pride, and the nature of pride is always to protest, rebellion, and to stand in opposition!
And this seems to describe what your posts tend to lack.The nature of humility is always faithfulness, obedience, subjection, and meekness!
Wonderful answer.Ecclesiastes 8:4
“Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?”
King James Version
I already gave my source as you can find that if you go to the End Times forum then click on the sub-forum Revelation and read what I have written on Revelation 13What is the source of this opposition?
It is because they operate from a motive of pride, and the nature of pride is always to protest, rebellion, and to stand in opposition!
And is this not what you are doing in all the threads you are involved in pushing your Catholic beliefs?It is because they operate from a motive of pride, and the nature of pride is always to protest, rebellion, and to stand in opposition!
First cos there is only one head so there is only one church!Where does scripture say that only the Roman Catholic Church is the only true religion and only they will go to heaven?
For that matter where does it say in scripture that any denomination/non-denomination are God's true church?
These few scriptures below shows that John's baptism was for repentance only as a recognition of one's sin as a desire for spiritual cleansing in anticipation of the coming of Messiah.John's baptism wasn't for repentance "only".
It is written..."John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." (Mark 1:4)
Then let’s stick with a study of the whole context of Jn 3:5 beginning in Jn 1 to Jn 4Don, "baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation" isn't anywhere stated in the verse you've offered here. All the verse does is describe Jesus (and his disciples) being baptized by John the Baptist. That's it. There is no "and all Christians throughout all time ought to do likewise." There is only a description given in John 3:22, no prescription. This is important because a description in the Bible does not necessarily form a prescription. Thinking that it does commits the Is-Ought fallacy. The Bible describes a great many things no Christian would ever think to do: murder, rape, child sacrifice, etc. And so, it is silly to take a description of something in the Bible and force it to be a prescription of thought or conduct for all Christians in all times and places.
This is just degenerating into denominational propaganda. The putting of exclamation points at the end of your declarations doesn't make them true, you know. I know you've been given many rebuttals to your declarations already, so I'm not going to add to them. All you ever do is ignore them, anyway. You've got your fingers in your ears while shouting at everyone that they're all wrong. This doesn't inspire a desire for conversation with you.