Nick
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This is not true.
Speaking in tongues is one of many gifts of the Spirit. A true Christian will have a gift, but it might not be tongues.
Take a read of 1 Corinthians 12, specifically verse 10.
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Speaking in tongues is one of many gifts of the Spirit. A true Christian will have a gift, but it might not be tongues.
Take a read of 1 Corinthians 12, specifically verse 10.
With regard to the various "gifts" of the Holy Spirit we may come with the understanding that even our talents (seen by many as natural) are indeed God Given. We know that He has indeed knitted us in the womb, that He knows us intimately and that our God shall continue to work in all things toward the good of they who love Him. We may consider farming as an example because there is a very clear word that has been spoken through the Prophets about such matters. Consider:
[QUOTE="Isaiah, chapter 28]verse 24: When a farmer plows for planting, does he plow continually? Does he keep on breaking up and harrowing the soil?
verse 26: His God instructs him and teaches him the right way.[/QUOTE]
In such manner we may seek Wisdom from our Father who, according to James, gives wisdom to all who ask freely (liberally) and does not say, "HEY! But what did you do with the last bit of Wisdom that I gave you?" (without reproach).
We know there is a difference between Faith (given to all) and the formal "Gift of Faith" which is mentioned as one of the Nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit. We may also know that there is a difference between Wisdom, whose voice is said to be like that of a woman, calling out in the common areas to all who will listen (in the book of Proverbs) and we know that we are to turn aside from our way and seek her for the benefit of our very souls. There is also a very specific gift of Wisdom, again, given to individuals --yes-- but the purpose of which is for the benefit of the Assembly. This is the Gift of Wisdom, given to the saints and not to the man, The Holy Spirit distributes these things as is fit toward the purpose of fitting us, jointly together.
Not all are prophets, not all are Apostles, not all are Pastors or elders or teachers. In the same manner we are told that the Holy Spirit distributes gifts unto us and that we are not to take the glory, for it is reserved, "My Glory shall fill all the Earth."
So it may come as no surprise that the Gift of Speaking in Tongues is also given to the Assembly even though we find many instances in the Bible where it is also a sign of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. When we speak in the Assembly? Are we to make no sense? Shall those who are unlearned come and say of us, "They are Barbarians?" or will we allow ourselves to be seen as clanging symbols of things that can not be understood? Or shall we do as instructed and let all things be done in order?
Yes, we do understand that tongues are a sign and we can know with great assurance what it may be Scriptural taken to mean. The Apostles themselves were astounded when the Gift of the Holy Spirit was seen to have been given to unbaptized Gentiles. Peter stood and convinced them of the need to change their doctrine saying, "They were filled like as we in the beginning," he further reasoned, "shall we prevent water," (meaning we must allow them to be baptized). Why? He knew they were filled for he heard them speak in tongues.
That was not the time when Peter stood up and said, "HEY! Wait just a second there buddy!" He did not prophetically utter a word saying, "You guys must be interpreted here and now or else I forbid you from speaking in tongues!" No. What did he do? He took the news of what God was doing and announced that unto them (the other sheep his Master had spoken of) had been poured out the Spirit of God.
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I'll leave those who have read thus far here at this place marker to ponder and prove what is being taught. Be it known that I have indeed given diligence to the fact that as I teach, I too am subjected to double judgment. If I were wrong and kept it to myself? That would be bad enough, but if I were wrong in what I teach to others? May it be unto me as God has declared. I do pray that each who read and study this word as I have delivered are able to confirm that I am not speaking of myself, that I am not changing the content, not twisting and that it is the same word as spoken by those to whom the Word was delivered. With this in mind, let me ask those who have that Berean spirit seek to substantiate and prove what is being taught.
More later and as God helps and sustains me.
~Sparrow
John said:
[QUOTE="Isaiah, chapter 28]verse 24: When a farmer plows for planting, does he plow continually? Does he keep on breaking up and harrowing the soil?
verse 26: His God instructs him and teaches him the right way.[/QUOTE]
In such manner we may seek Wisdom from our Father who, according to James, gives wisdom to all who ask freely (liberally) and does not say, "HEY! But what did you do with the last bit of Wisdom that I gave you?" (without reproach).
We know there is a difference between Faith (given to all) and the formal "Gift of Faith" which is mentioned as one of the Nine Gifts of the Holy Spirit. We may also know that there is a difference between Wisdom, whose voice is said to be like that of a woman, calling out in the common areas to all who will listen (in the book of Proverbs) and we know that we are to turn aside from our way and seek her for the benefit of our very souls. There is also a very specific gift of Wisdom, again, given to individuals --yes-- but the purpose of which is for the benefit of the Assembly. This is the Gift of Wisdom, given to the saints and not to the man, The Holy Spirit distributes these things as is fit toward the purpose of fitting us, jointly together.
Not all are prophets, not all are Apostles, not all are Pastors or elders or teachers. In the same manner we are told that the Holy Spirit distributes gifts unto us and that we are not to take the glory, for it is reserved, "My Glory shall fill all the Earth."
So it may come as no surprise that the Gift of Speaking in Tongues is also given to the Assembly even though we find many instances in the Bible where it is also a sign of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. When we speak in the Assembly? Are we to make no sense? Shall those who are unlearned come and say of us, "They are Barbarians?" or will we allow ourselves to be seen as clanging symbols of things that can not be understood? Or shall we do as instructed and let all things be done in order?
Yes, we do understand that tongues are a sign and we can know with great assurance what it may be Scriptural taken to mean. The Apostles themselves were astounded when the Gift of the Holy Spirit was seen to have been given to unbaptized Gentiles. Peter stood and convinced them of the need to change their doctrine saying, "They were filled like as we in the beginning," he further reasoned, "shall we prevent water," (meaning we must allow them to be baptized). Why? He knew they were filled for he heard them speak in tongues.
That was not the time when Peter stood up and said, "HEY! Wait just a second there buddy!" He did not prophetically utter a word saying, "You guys must be interpreted here and now or else I forbid you from speaking in tongues!" No. What did he do? He took the news of what God was doing and announced that unto them (the other sheep his Master had spoken of) had been poured out the Spirit of God.
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I'll leave those who have read thus far here at this place marker to ponder and prove what is being taught. Be it known that I have indeed given diligence to the fact that as I teach, I too am subjected to double judgment. If I were wrong and kept it to myself? That would be bad enough, but if I were wrong in what I teach to others? May it be unto me as God has declared. I do pray that each who read and study this word as I have delivered are able to confirm that I am not speaking of myself, that I am not changing the content, not twisting and that it is the same word as spoken by those to whom the Word was delivered. With this in mind, let me ask those who have that Berean spirit seek to substantiate and prove what is being taught.
More later and as God helps and sustains me.
~Sparrow
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Brother Mike
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Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Above is what Jesus said, These are the signs that shall follow them that believe in my name, they shall speak with new tongues.
What Jesus said is just as important to what Paul said concerning doing things decent and in order in a Church setting. Jesus only spoke of one gift out of the 9 that belongs to us, the same gift that came in Acts right after being filled with the Holy Spirit.
Laying on hands so that people can "RECOVER" is commissioned to every believer by faith. It's not the operation of the instant healing and Miracles that Paul talked about being given as the spirit wills in Cor.
Just like in James the prayer of faith will save the sick and God shall RAISE them up.
I am done here.
I said Jesus said............. You said it's not true........... I won't have a part of that.
Talk em out of it NICK!!! I am wanting my Brothers and Sisters to have everything that God has for them, and If Jesus said believing on his name you shall speak with new tongues then it should be good enough. However you said that is not true, so be it.
I have deleted most of this post. I am dropping out of the thread. I took the wife's advice.
Mike.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Above is what Jesus said, These are the signs that shall follow them that believe in my name, they shall speak with new tongues.
What Jesus said is just as important to what Paul said concerning doing things decent and in order in a Church setting. Jesus only spoke of one gift out of the 9 that belongs to us, the same gift that came in Acts right after being filled with the Holy Spirit.
Laying on hands so that people can "RECOVER" is commissioned to every believer by faith. It's not the operation of the instant healing and Miracles that Paul talked about being given as the spirit wills in Cor.
Just like in James the prayer of faith will save the sick and God shall RAISE them up.
I am done here.
I said Jesus said............. You said it's not true........... I won't have a part of that.
Talk em out of it NICK!!! I am wanting my Brothers and Sisters to have everything that God has for them, and If Jesus said believing on his name you shall speak with new tongues then it should be good enough. However you said that is not true, so be it.
I have deleted most of this post. I am dropping out of the thread. I took the wife's advice.
Mike.
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Brother Mike, give my regards to your lovely wife, if you please.
I am not here to correct you, nor to correct others. But instead I would like to show something that has been given to me. It is a basket of summer fruit. Shared among brothers. May I say that I do appreciate your service here?
May I also say that my prayer is joined to our Brother Northman's request and to Edwards request and that I do ask that these things be answered speedily but also according to each individual's time, and only as your Heavenly Father sees fit. It's something that we walk well in that need to be considered with prayerful requests for there is a place where the Lord commands the blessing. The place where the oil is caused to run down, where it is indeed poured out over the head and may be seen to drip down the beard, yea, even Aaron's beard... to anoint every part unto the hem. There is so much here, for us, yet it is in this unity of the brethren where the LORD commands the blessing.
Frankly, I may walk with boldness, am told to do so as are you. We are also commanded to remove our sandals from our feet for this indeed is holy ground. Ground given, bought by a price dear and purchased, owned by God alone. I know that your heart echoes mine as we declare, to Him be the glory.
I will (as God strengthens me) continue to contribute here. Much ground has been covered. Seeds have been planed. Who knows what unseen thing needs a cartwheel driven over it? What unseen thing need instead a light touch of a ... no, wait... the Prophet has spoken this word from the Lord:
And in another place my question, "Who knows..." is answered:
Yes heed the word given to you from the Lord through your helpmeet, and yes continue to pray for these your brothers, for me, as I shall continue to lift your family to Him whom we love.
There are many here. One may turn 1,000. Two? 10,000. And yet, this is not a time for battle but rather for reaping harvest and joy. Let the cup of water that is offered unto you, at this a wedding feast of sorts, be cause to turn to wine, to joy, even as the fruit of the earth is continuously cared for, by the very hand of God for He has said, "I shall not trust your care to another."
Your Father has spoken to quiet me with a peace that abides through the storm and it is there from which my hand is extended.
With much love we join in prayer offered, that you be rooted utterly and grounded in love, that you may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.…
This I ask in touching with one whom is dear to you, and now I no longer speak of your wife only but instead of the King of kings, the Prince of Peace that He take his rightful place in each of us, preparing us to be able to deliver that crown from our head to its only rightful place at his feet. This is asked to the one who listens to the prayers of the saints, the one who is able to exceed our requests, our supplications who is ready to abundantly, exceedingly respond, not in our time, though we be impatient, but according to what is the seasons set and known by Him alone.
To God be the glory!
I am not here to correct you, nor to correct others. But instead I would like to show something that has been given to me. It is a basket of summer fruit. Shared among brothers. May I say that I do appreciate your service here?
May I also say that my prayer is joined to our Brother Northman's request and to Edwards request and that I do ask that these things be answered speedily but also according to each individual's time, and only as your Heavenly Father sees fit. It's something that we walk well in that need to be considered with prayerful requests for there is a place where the Lord commands the blessing. The place where the oil is caused to run down, where it is indeed poured out over the head and may be seen to drip down the beard, yea, even Aaron's beard... to anoint every part unto the hem. There is so much here, for us, yet it is in this unity of the brethren where the LORD commands the blessing.
Frankly, I may walk with boldness, am told to do so as are you. We are also commanded to remove our sandals from our feet for this indeed is holy ground. Ground given, bought by a price dear and purchased, owned by God alone. I know that your heart echoes mine as we declare, to Him be the glory.
I will (as God strengthens me) continue to contribute here. Much ground has been covered. Seeds have been planed. Who knows what unseen thing needs a cartwheel driven over it? What unseen thing need instead a light touch of a ... no, wait... the Prophet has spoken this word from the Lord:
And in another place my question, "Who knows..." is answered:
Yes heed the word given to you from the Lord through your helpmeet, and yes continue to pray for these your brothers, for me, as I shall continue to lift your family to Him whom we love.
There are many here. One may turn 1,000. Two? 10,000. And yet, this is not a time for battle but rather for reaping harvest and joy. Let the cup of water that is offered unto you, at this a wedding feast of sorts, be cause to turn to wine, to joy, even as the fruit of the earth is continuously cared for, by the very hand of God for He has said, "I shall not trust your care to another."
Your Father has spoken to quiet me with a peace that abides through the storm and it is there from which my hand is extended.
With much love we join in prayer offered, that you be rooted utterly and grounded in love, that you may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.…
This I ask in touching with one whom is dear to you, and now I no longer speak of your wife only but instead of the King of kings, the Prince of Peace that He take his rightful place in each of us, preparing us to be able to deliver that crown from our head to its only rightful place at his feet. This is asked to the one who listens to the prayers of the saints, the one who is able to exceed our requests, our supplications who is ready to abundantly, exceedingly respond, not in our time, though we be impatient, but according to what is the seasons set and known by Him alone.
To God be the glory!
Jethro Bodine
Member
Brother Jethro, our member known as Mike is reclining on the breast of the Lord in this matter upon the request of his wife, let us not disturb his repose there. Please?
Nick
Member
No, I said what you said was not true. Please don't put words in my mouth.
So would you say that one is not a Christian if they are not given the gift of tongues or healing? Looking for confirmation here.
I believe Paul is crystal clear in what he says, that not all have every gift. He clearly says that tongues are not a 'higher gift'.
So we have Jesus and Paul apparently at odds with their words. But this cannot be.
I believe Jesus in Mark 16 where you quoted was speaking specifically to the Apostles and in relation to Pentacost.
Playing games?
I'm pointing out the fact that Paul was not speaking to the Apostles when he asked, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?"
This question can be applied to all.
After a person is born again, they should get Baptized in water.
Also after a person gets born again, they should be Baptized in the Holy Spirit as well.
Receiving the Holy Spirit is not just for the Apostles, as clearly stated in Acts 19 by the Apostle Paul.
JLB
Do you believe a person should not get Baptized with water after they believe the Gospel message?
47 "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?"Acts 10:47
JLB
The question that was addressed to the disciples of John the Baptist concerned a puzzle that Paul's very sharp mind pinpointed. Let's look there... one moment, processing...
BibleGateway ----> Chapter 19 (YLT)
The way I like to do it is to open a new window on the link and have that Scripture fully at hand while looking at the situation. They "had not even heard there was a Holy Spirit [or a baptism]," so Paul wondered about it and I imagine, he compared what he knew as the "normal" and "routine" way of things (if we can call such a miracle a 'norm') to their response. The insight to the mind of Paul is, well, insightful.
The book of acts gives several examples of those who had been filled, baptized with, poured out upon, and etc. We see several factors in common to many of these passages. Speaking in tongues (glossolalia NOTE: this is a search of .EDU sites only, not relifious in nature and as such must be gleaned with care and discernment) , magnifying God and etc. There are conclusions that are reasonable to draw from these examples and it appears that one of them may reinforce what Peter said at the beginning when he and 119 others experienced the outpouring (along with a special manifestation of tongues of fire (over some? I'd have to look with care to know) back then, and even at the beginning). That was unique. Peter quickly announced that they were not drunk, but that this is what Joel had spoken of and then went on to say that this (the Promise of the Father) was for them, and not only them but to "as many as the Lord shall call," meaning those of us who have been given ears to hear. If today, that isn't you? That's okay too. God knows you, calls you and understands exactly where and who you are. I would say that His good intent includes the Eph 3 and 6 prayers which should be fully expanded also, but include: [Eph 3:19 NKJV] to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God." How He gets you there is up to Him. Some here are saying (and I see this in agreement with what has been said) that they have experienced the "norm" that Paul spoke of.
One of the other examples, showing that God had baptized Gentiles (that Roman Centurion) of the Peter's blanket vision "rise and eat" fame may be included here too. Peter said they were filled "like as we in the beginning." These observations of what the Holy Spirit caused to be written for us to read and ponder today must also be taken into consideration. Still, when we are adding point to point, while we are considering line upon line, and precept upon precept, we are classifying ourselves as meat eaters and announce that we are able to form and understand doctrine. This is not yet "strong meat" but it is meat none-the-less. There are many here who are able to assist in this from experience. The one who is fully able, Christ Jesus, is also here and it is this mind that is being formed in us.
BibleGateway ----> Chapter 19 (YLT)
The way I like to do it is to open a new window on the link and have that Scripture fully at hand while looking at the situation. They "had not even heard there was a Holy Spirit [or a baptism]," so Paul wondered about it and I imagine, he compared what he knew as the "normal" and "routine" way of things (if we can call such a miracle a 'norm') to their response. The insight to the mind of Paul is, well, insightful.
The book of acts gives several examples of those who had been filled, baptized with, poured out upon, and etc. We see several factors in common to many of these passages. Speaking in tongues (glossolalia NOTE: this is a search of .EDU sites only, not relifious in nature and as such must be gleaned with care and discernment) , magnifying God and etc. There are conclusions that are reasonable to draw from these examples and it appears that one of them may reinforce what Peter said at the beginning when he and 119 others experienced the outpouring (along with a special manifestation of tongues of fire (over some? I'd have to look with care to know) back then, and even at the beginning). That was unique. Peter quickly announced that they were not drunk, but that this is what Joel had spoken of and then went on to say that this (the Promise of the Father) was for them, and not only them but to "as many as the Lord shall call," meaning those of us who have been given ears to hear. If today, that isn't you? That's okay too. God knows you, calls you and understands exactly where and who you are. I would say that His good intent includes the Eph 3 and 6 prayers which should be fully expanded also, but include: [Eph 3:19 NKJV] to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God." How He gets you there is up to Him. Some here are saying (and I see this in agreement with what has been said) that they have experienced the "norm" that Paul spoke of.
One of the other examples, showing that God had baptized Gentiles (that Roman Centurion) of the Peter's blanket vision "rise and eat" fame may be included here too. Peter said they were filled "like as we in the beginning." These observations of what the Holy Spirit caused to be written for us to read and ponder today must also be taken into consideration. Still, when we are adding point to point, while we are considering line upon line, and precept upon precept, we are classifying ourselves as meat eaters and announce that we are able to form and understand doctrine. This is not yet "strong meat" but it is meat none-the-less. There are many here who are able to assist in this from experience. The one who is fully able, Christ Jesus, is also here and it is this mind that is being formed in us.
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Northman
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[MENTION=90700]Edward[/MENTION] The reason i asked for clarity about the whole study thing is just cause of what i saw it being made out to mean. And that was pure academia. I think this is wrong, not because its not a traditional form of study but because it is. I see people getting so wrapped up in context and who was talking to who that its training people to NOT see what god may have for their personal lives.
Ill admit that i dont click links people put up here unless its news related. Its not that im parnoid ill get a virus, its a wariness against youtube preachers and every other idea people seem to think are popular nowadays. In my opinion, and thats all it is, the best and brightest concerning scripture discernment have already come and gone. Their works are available for the serious scholar. After all, them mideval monks and/or saints didnt just sit around copying books all day. Nothing new under the sun, so to speak.
None of this is meant as a deterrent againt learning, its just a warning cause today things are so messed up. People put on what i call "culture glasses" before reading the word. The idea of fitting god inside ones box has never been more prevalent among the general public. Can you put your finger on one thing and say thats it? Absolutely not, there are loads of things that crept in the door one way or another.
The defender? Ill leave ancient and obscure references out of the picture in the future as not to confuse.
But as for myself, pentecostal roots, just like jason and reba. With those roots come the knowing of the rest of what they speak, endless strife and coveting over the gifts...its just awful. That being said i believe all of the gifts and powers are still functioning today. This could be said in faith but after the years, its said in witness. Tongues is my oldest desire, and admittedly not as high on my list of desires as it once was. Do i know why? No. Does it matter? Probably not. Why? Because i trust, period.
Ive been given a gift, faith. And its not something i asked for or anything like that. It was just impressed on me. Its awesome and fantastic just like the rest of them, and it helps me do the part im supposed to. Its more than a blessing to be able to see multiple doctrines as possibilities, to be able to spiritually fathom the concept of harmony and be made to feel exactly what god wants me to feel when its not so(not fantastic).
With that in mind, god brought me here for us. I say this with confidence cause i can. I wish that everyone else could see themselves in the same light. We are all here for eachother. Im not here to teach much of anything, what most of you guys say is an echo of myself so i dont bother posting on such things. I do bring a word of warning though for everyone here, especially the teachers or those apsiring to be so. If you act high, you will be brought low, if you act smarter, you will be made to look the fool. God is not pleased on our treatment of eachother and every underhanded, snyde and snakey comment made to one another either directly or indirectly will result in loss. Loss of reputation, loss of conscience, loss of treasures stored. This is your family, you dont get to choose it.
Ill admit that i dont click links people put up here unless its news related. Its not that im parnoid ill get a virus, its a wariness against youtube preachers and every other idea people seem to think are popular nowadays. In my opinion, and thats all it is, the best and brightest concerning scripture discernment have already come and gone. Their works are available for the serious scholar. After all, them mideval monks and/or saints didnt just sit around copying books all day. Nothing new under the sun, so to speak.
None of this is meant as a deterrent againt learning, its just a warning cause today things are so messed up. People put on what i call "culture glasses" before reading the word. The idea of fitting god inside ones box has never been more prevalent among the general public. Can you put your finger on one thing and say thats it? Absolutely not, there are loads of things that crept in the door one way or another.
The defender? Ill leave ancient and obscure references out of the picture in the future as not to confuse.
But as for myself, pentecostal roots, just like jason and reba. With those roots come the knowing of the rest of what they speak, endless strife and coveting over the gifts...its just awful. That being said i believe all of the gifts and powers are still functioning today. This could be said in faith but after the years, its said in witness. Tongues is my oldest desire, and admittedly not as high on my list of desires as it once was. Do i know why? No. Does it matter? Probably not. Why? Because i trust, period.
Ive been given a gift, faith. And its not something i asked for or anything like that. It was just impressed on me. Its awesome and fantastic just like the rest of them, and it helps me do the part im supposed to. Its more than a blessing to be able to see multiple doctrines as possibilities, to be able to spiritually fathom the concept of harmony and be made to feel exactly what god wants me to feel when its not so(not fantastic).
With that in mind, god brought me here for us. I say this with confidence cause i can. I wish that everyone else could see themselves in the same light. We are all here for eachother. Im not here to teach much of anything, what most of you guys say is an echo of myself so i dont bother posting on such things. I do bring a word of warning though for everyone here, especially the teachers or those apsiring to be so. If you act high, you will be brought low, if you act smarter, you will be made to look the fool. God is not pleased on our treatment of eachother and every underhanded, snyde and snakey comment made to one another either directly or indirectly will result in loss. Loss of reputation, loss of conscience, loss of treasures stored. This is your family, you dont get to choose it.
Greetings, Northman.
I've seen evidence of this gift in others too, even in the man to whom you addressed the comment to (as well as others). Blessings to you and to your Godly pursuits from another man (me) who has seen fruits of the Gift in the lives of others.
I accept your admonition along with the gravity of the situation that it addresses. Kindly join your prayer to mine that all may be edified by the prayerful and considerate contributions that each member makes from their good hearts, as expressed here, so that this is also echoed rightly as heard in the heavens.
~Sparrow
Baptism in water and Baptism of the Holy Spirit are for all believers.
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As I would encourage all here to do [because we must all listen with care to what the Holy Spirit says].
JLB
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