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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
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I guess you can't see my sentence implied both by grace alone through faith alone.
If you can't see it that's what I believe...
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Would you like to add to God's grace?
I see you are trying to say faith alone.
Then you turn around and say grace alone.
So which is it.
If you believe it’s both faith and grace together then stop saying “faith alone”.
Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
James 2:17
Not works of the law
Not good works
Not works that earn
The work of obedience.
Faith must have the corresponding action or work of obedience or faith remains dormant and incomplete, being unable to produce the intended divine result.
JLB
you have proven nothing. but only your interpretation . i have proven by scripture we can be secure in Christ . while i am at before you try to turn it around ..i have never said we can do how we want after salvation.
Romans 6:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
1 Peter 1:3-6 King James Version (KJV)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
you want to add to the power of God by something we must do faith. by faith we accept kept by the power of God
2 Peter 1:2-4
2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
for some odd reason you have it in your mind i am a osa teacher i teach a know so salvation
i am fully aware of the end time scripture some shall depart from the faith .. which is in Christ Jesus . BTW no i am not going to answer your question with a yes or no or i dont know . you want me to say no longer saved which would be judging . i cant make that call only Christ can.
this is apart of a insert by watchman lee
According to 4:1, the Spirit says that in later times some will depart from the faith. The later times, or after times, refer to times after the writing of this book. This differs from the last days in 2 Timothy 3:1, which denote the closing period of this age.
As he was writing this Epistle, Paul realized that in time to come some would depart from the faith. In this verse the faith is objective and refers to the contents of our belief. On the one hand, Paul was bold and encouraged, not in the least disappointed. He believed that the church was the house of the living God, the pillar and base of the truth, and even the mystery of godliness. On the other hand, deep within his spirit, he knew that certain so-called believers would depart from the faith, from God’s New Testament economy. Paul could know this because the Spirit who was mingled with his spirit revealed it to him. This departure from God’s New Testament economy would be the beginning of the decline of the church life.
you keep ignoring the fact i am say a true Blue believer .if he GETS away will return like the prodigal . you stated in your testimony due to drugs and alcohol you backslide got away from GOD . you returned unless your a special case .
i really dont care if you believe osas is a false doctrine.. i attend a non denom church we have pentecostals we have baptist some in there beliefs osas all the way. others dont we teach preach what we must do if we get away from God .
i reckon that wraps it up for me . i am sure you will grace us with your correctness .
We certainly have an Advocate in heaven interceding for us.
We also have the teaching of Christ in the scriptures.
The scriptures plainly teach the wages of sin is death.
The phrases about going to hell and perishing have been listed for all to examine.
There are terms to describe this such as:
Lost
Dead
Will not inherit the kingdom of God
Have their part in the lake of fire
Perish
Death
Corruption
Cast into outer darkness
Cast into hell
Tormented with fire and brimstone
To name a few.
Words of Christ in red.
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. Luke 12:46
JLB
Makes zero sense.
i have not denied none of this . your claim osas is false doctrine. the reason of that is you dont believe in due to scriptures you have studied and interpreted . if you ask a southern baptist or any of the other baptist that teach osas. they will tell you the osnas teaching is wrong. the independent baptist would call osnas false teaching.. i have been in service there.
granted the wages of sin is death but the Gift of God is eternal life. ok since you brought up wages of sin.. if you sin does that mean YOU go to hell no matter what .
ya know that is about the most judgemental statement any one can make. i have deep respect for the pentecostals .but i do not agree with the doctrine of tongues the evidence of the Holy ghost . i dont go around saying its a perverted twisted teaching
a guy i graduated with is a ASOG pastor scott is a great guy very sincere. he has a nephew who is pastor evang. that young man can preach nad has preached in many general baptist church.. to here him preach other that mentioning his Church . you would never know he was ASOG .
i will call it how i see it your statement is flesh ! you want to hit on j.w mormons iam right there. i have heard them attack joyce myers . let God judge her if she is wrong . her works will burn in the fire of testing . your bashing is very inappropriate . would you like to bash me for my stand?
God inspired the scriptures.
The scriptures don’t contradict each other.
Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. James 2:17
Not works of the law
Not good works
Not works that earn
The work of obedience.
Faith must have the corresponding action or work of obedience or faith remains dormant and incomplete, being unable to produce the intended divine result.
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
James 2:21
The work that Abraham did was to obey God and sacrifice his son on the altar.
A person doing something by faith means God spoke to a person and that person obeyed.
Nothing more, nothing less.
JLB
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What steps do you take?
Here are mine......when I Sin, which is quite often, I do the same thing with them that God does—- I put them on the Cross and leave them there.....then I forget about them.....then I thank God for His Grace and get on with my life. Depending on the Severity Of The Sin, I can expect Chastisement from my Father.....done because He Loves me and because He is trying to Mold me into the Image Of His Son.....God Bless...
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Now “ that’s a Keeper !
Do you confess your sin to God and ask Him to forgive you?
We need to be forgiven or sin, but we also need to learn from our mistakes and also learn to overcome them so we don’t keep repeating them, so we can be example to our family how to overcome.
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
From Slaves of Sin to Slaves of God
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness. Romans 6:12-16
- do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.
JLB
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