LOL! Common soldier! After all that manure, you want to go trough even more of it? If nothing else, War is the perfect reason to seek the Pretrib Solution! :nod
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LOL! Common soldier! After all that manure, you want to go trough even more of it? If nothing else, War is the perfect reason to seek the Pretrib Solution! :nod
Apart from the typo, it is one thing to say "I don't believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture" and another thing entirely to say "Pre-trib Rapture is not scriptural".Per-trib Rapture is not scriptural
Matthew 24 has nothing whatsoever to say about the Church or the Rapture. That is the fundamental mistake of the anti-pre-trib group. In fact, at that stage the apostles did not even have an inkling about the Church, the Bride of Christ. Please note what they asked the Lord just at the point that He was about to return to Heaven, and please note His answer: When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. (Acts 1:6,7).g. Matthew 24 is an outline of all things that will come to pass that is revealed in full in Revelations before that of Christ return for His Bride.
That's simple.Apart from the typo, it is one thing to say "I don't believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture" and another thing entirely to say "Pre-trib Rapture is not scriptural".
Actually, Scripture supports a Pre-Tribulation Rapture much more strongly than any other view. I would challenge anyone to show even one Bible verse that connects the Rapture to the Tribulation.
The way I see it..Jesus returns twice. Well, almost returns twice. The first time Jesus stops in the air in the clouds. The second time Jesus is on a horse.
Acts 1:9
9And after He had said these things, He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight
Acts 1: 10They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
So, Jesus comes back the same way as He left...clouds are involved.
1st Thes 4:17Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
The second time Jesus returns...He's on a horse. Jesus didn't ride a horse into heaven. Acts just proved that.
Rev 19:11And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.
Zech 14: 4 tells us about Christ "second" arrival...On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives that lies before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley, so that one half of the Mount shall move northward, and the other half southward.
The first return of Christ in the air...is the Pre-Trib rapture of the church.
The second return is Post Trib.
Not that simple. Tie in the Day of the Lord to the salvation of the saints, instead of the judgement of the unbelieving and the ungodly.That's simple.
Just tie in any verse to the day of the Lord and you have a post-trib rapture.
LAST DAY = RESURRECTION OF JUST + RESURRECTION OF UNJUSTJesus says last day , there are a few more verses where Jesus says last day.. What day comes after the Creators last day ?
I just used a couple of Scriptures to make my point.Not that simple. Tie in the Day of the Lord to the salvation of the saints, instead of the judgement of the unbelieving and the ungodly.
Rev_10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:LAST DAY = RESURRECTION OF JUST + RESURRECTION OF UNJUST
The "last day" is more that 1,000 years long. Please see Revelation 20.
Some times we can say things a better way ... you knucklehead...That's what i told him but nope no dice..
Knucklehead?Some times we can say things a better way ... you knucklehead...
nope Daddy called me knucklehead before you were born..