The Day of the LORD... The Day of Jesus Christ...

[Brother Mike]

In all instances? Okay if you see and understand it that way. In other words all such mentions of the sun, moon, and such things are just metaphors? Blessings

Mat_26:52 “Then said Jesus unto him (Peter), Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.” Is Jesus here telling Peter to put down your bible, it’s things such as this that’ll destroy the ear (a simile of his ability to hear?) of that servant of the high priest?

NO Eugene!!! I was not trying say they are Hyperbole of metaphors. What I was trying to get across, is that if they were by some chance just that, then there would have been a very clear key to understanding them as that. There is no key and the events take place in the Heavens which mean literal stars are going to get knocked out of there by God. The Sun will be put out, and no more reflection from the sun to the moon. The sun will be a dark, dark, black orange color leaving the moon to look blood red. It's a supernatural event.

I haven't seen where one person has said that "that day of the Lord" has happened already. We are all expecting the "final day of the Lord".
Whether one is pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib or no trib. We are all expecting the final "coming of the Lord". That "Day".
I could be mistaken though? Can you direct me to a post?

It was just a short time ago, someone named Hope In Glory tried to convince me that the 6th seal was hyperbole in the thread about the temple getting knocked over.

As far as what's described occuring off of the Earth; you sure about that? The vision of Isaiah 13 was not an "end times" vision according to Isaiah it was a vision against ancient Babylon (Isaiah 13:1, 17-19).

JLB covered this for me. I see what your saying, but Evidence weighs in under JLB's explanation

@Deborah13 : This is why I tend regard the term 'day of the Lord' as being linked with Israel and events on earth, whereas the term 'rapture' with the church, occurring in the air.

Blessings.

I see the events of the Day of OUR Lord Jesus Christ, and the Day of the Lord as two different events. One day for those that Call Jesus Lord, and anointed of God, sealed with the Holy Spirit. The day of the Lord is God dealing with terrible affliction those left on the Earth that have rejected Jesus and His final dealing, keeping His promise to his Elected people, the Jews.

Mike.

 

[JLB]

From the Old Testement it is clear that there are many days of The Lord. God always receives His due.

It may be clear to you although it's certainly not clear according to what you post. Are blanket statements without any support useful here ?

Feel free to show us the many 'past tense' days of the LORD which are clear to you.

Amos 5 proclaims a Day of The Lord for the northern kingdom of Israel that was fulfilled through Assyria.

Ezekiel 30 describes the downfall of Egypt at the hands of Nebuchadnezzar as a 'Day of The Lord'.
Jeremiah 46 does the same.

Isaiah 13 describes the fate of the Neo-Babylonian empire in apocalyptic language. A 'Day of The Lord' in which God passed judgment on Babylon and carried out His sentence through Cyrus the Great.

Obadiah 1 proclaims a Day of The Lord for Edom, and today there is no more House of Esau.

The Apostles believed the Day of The Lord foretold by Joel was nigh at hand. Was it to be a global Day of The Lord, or limited to the judgement of a specific culture who had just rejected their Messiah?

The first half of Isaiah 13 has nothing to do with Natural Babylon, or the Medes.

1 The burden against Babylon which Isaiah the son of Amoz saw. 2 "Lift up a banner on the high mountain, Raise your voice to them; Wave your hand, that they may enter the gates of the nobles. 3 I have commanded My sanctified ones; I have also called My mighty ones for My anger-- Those who rejoice in My exaltation." 4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, Like that of many people! A tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together! The Lord of hosts musters The army for battle. 5 They come from a far country, From the end of heaven-- The Lord and His weapons of indignation, To destroy the whole land. 6 Wail, for the day of the Lord is at hand! It will come as destruction from the Almighty. 7 Therefore all hands will be limp, Every man's heart will melt, 8 And they will be afraid. Pangs and sorrows will take hold of them; They will be in pain as a woman in childbirth; They will be amazed at one another; Their faces will be like flames. 9 Behold, the day of the Lord comes, Cruel, with both wrath and fierce anger, To lay the land desolate; And He will destroy its sinners from it. 10 For the stars of heaven and their constellations Will not give their light; The sun will be darkened in its going forth, And the moon will not cause its light to shine. 11 "I will punish the world for its evil, And the wicked for their iniquity; I will halt the arrogance of the proud, And will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. 12 I will make a mortal more rare than fine gold, A man more than the golden wedge of Ophir. 13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, And the earth will move out of her place, In the wrath of the Lord of hosts And in the day of His fierce anger. Isaiah 13:1-13


This word is reference to the Day of The Lord at the end of the age.

This language is referenced by the New Testament writers as such.


JLB

 

[Deborah13]

whereas the term 'rapture' with the church, occurring in the air.

But [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION] , there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding. And I can't get to a rapture from scripture as defined by the dispy view. Especially pre-trib. with the following tribulation and 1000 yrs.

 

[farouk]

whereas the term 'rapture' with the church, occurring in the air.

But @farouk , there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding. And I can't get to a rapture from scripture as defined by the dispy view. Especially pre-trib. with the following tribulation and 1000 yrs.

@Deborah13 :

'Rapture' = 'caught up', 1 Thess. 4.

And the tribulation of Matthew 24 is clearly a unique event, rather than the tribulation principle ('in the world ye shall have tribulation').

Blessings.

 

[jasoncran]

whereas the term 'rapture' with the church, occurring in the air.

But [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION] , there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding. And I can't get to a rapture from scripture as defined by the dispy view. Especially pre-trib. with the following tribulation and 1000 yrs.

they get it from and well she caught up with the lord forever more. the latin word for that is raptos, which in English is rapture. but I like to take that in context. its a the resurrection of the dead saints and his return to the earth to deal with sin once and for all.

 

[farouk]

whereas the term 'rapture' with the church, occurring in the air.

But [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION] , there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding. And I can't get to a rapture from scripture as defined by the dispy view. Especially pre-trib. with the following tribulation and 1000 yrs.

they get it from and well she caught up with the lord forever more. the latin word for that is raptos, which in English is rapture. but I like to take that in context. its a the resurrection of the dead saints and his return to the earth to deal with sin once and for all.

Also: 'then we which are alive and remain shall caught up'.

Blessings.

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

Isaiah 13:1-13 This word is reference to the Day of The Lord at the end of the age.

You believe this text to be a reference to the end of the world and others like myself see it as referencing ancient Babylon. It's unlikely that both of us are correct, so hows about we work together to come to the best, most unbiased understanding of this text as possible? In the text that you quoted I noticed that you stopped at verse 13 as opposed to verse 16 which continues the thought. Isaiah 13:11-16 reads:

I'll punish the world for its evil, and the irreverent I'll destroy for their sins… I'll destroy the insolence of the lawless, and bring the haughtiness of the proud to the ground. Then those left behind will be rarer than gold… they'll be rarer than gold from Ophir. For, the skies will then be enraged, and the foundations of the earth will be shaken, by the anger and rage of Jehovah of Armies, in that day when He brings His wrath. Then the remaining will run as though they were deer… they will all stray like sheep. No way will a man return to his home; for, they all will flee their houses. Then, whoever is captured will be [killed], and those who are caught will fall by the sword. Before them, their kids will be dashed to the ground; their homes will be ruined and all their women will be raped.


The text's continuation has some real 'of this world' events happening. Those inflicting and acting as the instruments of the punishment of God aren't described as being Godly either. They are described as murdering children, destroying homes, and raping women. Are not these rapists and murders the very ones spoken of in verse 5? Doesn't their depiction fit better with the Medes and Persians thana Heavenly Host of God's faithful messengers?

Additionally, Isaiah 14:1-2 continues the discussion of Babylon's fate and begins by saying that the things described in chapter 13 would happen quickly (soon) and says that Israel will go from being slaves to being the masters of those who once treated them as slaves. How can this be talking about the end of time with Jesus makes all things new if there's going to be slavery, rape, destruction, and such evil?

 

[Eugene]

I see the Lord’s Day as the time from RV 4:1 “. . I will shew thee things which must be hereafter,†and Rev 4:2 when Jesus receives His own throne, ". . a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

1 Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

1 Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

1 Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

How long is this period? When will there be no more death?

Rev 20:4 “. . they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Does this mean only a day?

 

[Watchmen for Christ]

whereas the term 'rapture' with the church, occurring in the air.

But [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION] , there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding. And I can't get to a rapture from scripture as defined by the dispy view. Especially pre-trib. with the following tribulation and 1000 yrs.

:amen many try to claim I thess 4 is a "different event" than matt 24:29-31 , however we must ask: based on which scripture? paul clearly quotes Jesus Christ in matt 24:30-31 in I thess 4 and makes sure we believers know the Lord's parousia (coming) and our gathering is after the working of satan claiming to be God.

satan uses the ole matt 24 mark 13 luke 21 is for Jews only routine,& the Lord's day is different from Christ's Day routine and the "events are separate/different" routine to keep many deceived as if the lord Jesus Christ is coming before the tribulation to lead many to mistake the false Christs claiming to be Jesus with signs and lying wonders as if it's really Jesus, purging them as tares who fornicate with satan instead of weaiting as a wise virgin for Jesus Christ. when many see the real Jesus Christ coming they will be surprised calling on the rocks to fall on them to hide them from the Lord. they will seek death and won't find death because we will ALL be dead physically according to II pet 3 the heavens and earth will be "on fire, elements dissolve (evil spirits), & melt away".

we who are alive and remain (not flown away as they claim) means we meet the Lord and His returning with Him in spiritual bodies Aer=breath spirit g109 g4151

1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

 

[Eugene]

there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding.

How do you like the word "Caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 instead? In Greek it is "harpazó" meaning to sieze, or catch up, or carry off known as the rapture among many Christians.

 

[Watchmen for Christ]

there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding.

How do you like the word "Caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 instead? In Greek it is "harpazó" meaning to sieze, or catch up, or carry off known as the rapture among many Christians.

Matthew 13:30

King James Version (KJV)

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 13:36-43

King James Version (KJV)

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.



Matthew 13:49-51

King James Version (KJV)

49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things?They say unto him, Yea, Lord.





Matthew 24:21-31

for tares:


21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.


for wheat who remains faithful:



29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.



rapture /harvest/gathering all the same word for harvesting

Jesus says the tares are harvested first, men claim the church is harvested first, Jesus says His coming and our gathering is after the tribulation men claim Jesus is coming before the trib. better stick with Jesus not men.

 

[Deborah13]

there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding.

How do you like the word "Caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 instead? In Greek it is "harpazó" meaning to sieze, or catch up, or carry off known as the rapture among many Christians.

Hi Eugene,

Oh it's not the word itself and I used to believe in the rapture too. But really even with this scripture and "harpazo" I can't get a separate rapture out of it.
Just a final (I think) resurrection of the saints. The bodies of the ones who passed on and then those still alive. All getting new bodies, like Jesus', I think.

But I don't think any of us, are damned for believing or not in a rapture, as some have tried to say. It's not a salvation issue. Blessings, Deb

 

[farouk]

there isn't any term 'rapture' in scripture anywhere. So one must prove by other wording or context that there is an event that is different from any other event and then call it the rapture for the sake of understanding.

How do you like the word "Caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 instead? In Greek it is "harpazó" meaning to sieze, or catch up, or carry off known as the rapture among many Christians.

Hi Eugene,

Oh it's not the word itself and I used to believe in the rapture too. But really even with this scripture and "harpazo" I can't get a separate rapture out of it.
Just a final (I think) resurrection of the saints. The bodies of the ones who passed on and then those still alive. All getting new bodies, like Jesus', I think.

But I don't think any of us, are damned for believing or not in a rapture, as some have tried to say. It's not a salvation issue. Blessings, Deb

[MENTION=93058]Deborah13[/MENTION]:

Again, it's a question of, who does it relate to? Like, is the church, a heavenly people, really going to go through the Great Tribulation - clearly a unique event - a time of judgment and purging, preparing the world to recognize believing Jews as God's earthly witness?

Blessings.

 

[Deborah13]

a time of judgment and purging, preparing the world to recognize believing Jews as God's earthly witness?

Can you explain more fully and give supporting scripture for the statement above?

Who is the body of Christ, the Church?
Why do you see the Jews as a separate body?
Why would God want the world to see Jews as God's witness to Jesus, on earth?
Is the Church God's witness on earth? What was the last 2,000 yrs?

 

[n2thelight]

a time of judgment and purging, preparing the world to recognize believing Jews as God's earthly witness?

Can you explain more fully and give supporting scripture for the statement above?

Who is the body of Christ, the Church?
Why do you see the Jews as a separate body?
Why would God want the world to see Jews as God's witness to Jesus, on earth?
Is the Church God's witness on earth? What was the last 2,000 yrs?

Thank you Deborah......I can't for the life of me understand why people seperate Israel from the Church!!!!!!

You are either with Christ,or against Him....Jew's that are saved are Christians Aficans that are saved,are Christians,etc...............There is nothing special for the unsaved,Jew or otherwise....

 

[n2thelight]

Every mention of ,the Day of the Lord in scripture pertains to His 2nd coming.....

 

[n2thelight]

Day of the Lord and Second Coming Equal

(Exo 14:20 KJV) "And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night." ​

The Day of the Lord (1 Th 5:2) and Second (Heb 9:28) Coming (2 Th 2:1), the Day of Christ (2 Th 2:2) equal. To begin understanding the ways they equal, consider the following. During the Exodus, to the Egyptians, the pillar of fire and cloud, from where the LORD looked down and troubled them (Exo 14:24-25), was a cloud and darkness (Exo 14:19-20). But to the Children of Israel, it was a pillar of cloud by day to lead them (Psa 78:14) and for a covering (Psa 105:39), and a pillar of fire by night to give them light (Exo 13:21-22).
Accordingly, to the wicked, that terrible (Joel 2:1-11), great and dreadful Day (Mal 4:5) of the Lord (Jesus Christ) will be a day of wrath, a day of trouble (Zep 1:14-16), a day of clouds and darkness (Joel 2:1-2), and etc. But to the Saints in that Day, the cloud(s) of heaven (Luke 21:27), from where the light of heaven will shine (Acts 26:13-18), will be a refuge to where they will escape (Luke 21:33-36).

When Christ comes in the clouds of heaven (Mat 24:30), Saints will be delivered (Rom 8:16-23), resurrected and put on immortality (1 Cor 15:51-54), caught up (1 Th 4:13-18) and gathered together (2 Th 2:1-3). Day and Coming
Whether it be called the "Day of the Lord" (Acts 2:20 1), "Day of our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Cor 1:8), "Day of the Lord Jesus" (2 Cor 1:14 2), "Day of Jesus Christ" (Phil 1:6), "Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" (2 Th 2:1 3), "Day of Christ" (2 Th 2:2-3 4), it is all about the second (Heb 9:28) coming (Mat 16:27-28 5) and appearing (Mat 24:30 6) of our Lord (1 Tim 6:14) and Savior Jesus Christ (2 Tim 1:10), when He will be revealed (Luke 17:30 7) from heaven with his mighty angels... (2 Th 1:7-10). And whether He be called Jesus, Christ, Savior, Lord, God, Almighty, Son of Man, Lamb of God, it is about Him.

(1 Th 4:13-18 KJV) "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. {14} For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. {15} For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. {16} For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump 8 of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: {17} Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, 9 to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. {18} Wherefore comfort one another with these words."​

Paul described the coming of the Lord in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, and continued to describe His coming and the day of the Lord in the next chapter (1 Th 5:1-3). Don't let the chapter numbers fool you into thinking that there are two more comings of our Lord. Chapter and verse numbers were added and are good reference tags when looking for information.
Thief in the Night

(1 Th 5:1-3 KJV) "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. {2} For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief 10 in the night. 11 {3} For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. {4} But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."​

The Day of the Lord will come as a "thief in the night," like words Paul used in 1 Thessalonians 5:2 (following the famous 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) and Peter used in 2 Peter 3:10 to describe how that Day will come. Some of Jesus' desciptions of His (second) coming (Mat 24:42-44) will be as a thief (Rev 16:15) and it will be in the night (Luke 17:34-36).
Day of the Lord
There have been various ways in which the Day of the Lord and Second Coming have been interpreted. I believe that day is going to be when heavens and earth are shaken in the wrath of the LORD (Isa 13:13), Christ comes, trumpet sounds, Saints are changed (1 Cor 15:51-52), caught up (1 Th 4:13-18) and gathered (Mat 24:31), wrath of God comes on unbelievers, battle at Armageddon (Rev 16:14, 16), Saints begin to reign (Rev 5:9-10; 20:4-6) with Christ (Rev 2:26-29) for a thousand years, and the Marriage of the Lamb comes (Rev 19:6-9).

Note: When the thousand years are expired Satan is loosed to gather together Gog and Magog for the final battle (Rev 20:7-9), the Devil is thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone (Rev 20:10), the heaven and earth pass away (Luke 21:33), the dead are judged (Rev 20:11-15), and a new heaven and earth appear (Isa 65:17; Rev 21:1).​

The way Peter describes the longsuffering Lord's view (Psa 90:4) of time is "...That one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" (2 Pet 3:8-9). Some believe that the Day of the Lord is the thousand year reign of Christ.​

The last days may have begun with Jesus (Heb 1:1-3), and according to Peter's quote of Joel 2:28-31, include the fulfilment of Pentecost (Acts 2:14-18), which occurred about two thousand years ago, and the showing of wonders and signs, the sun turning into darkness and the moon into blood before (paniym: H6440) the Day of the Lord (Acts 2:19-20), the Day of the Lord, when the mountain of the Lord's house is established (Isa 2:2) and etc., which are yet to occur.​

Similarities
Some things Jesus said in Matthew 24:29 and Mark 13:24-25, just before our Savior appears the second time (Heb 9:28), were in part similar to Joel 2:10, Revelation 6:12, Joel 2:31, which was quoted by Peter in Acts 2:20, and to Joel 3:15-16, things that will occur before (at the presence of) the great and terrible Day of the Lord come.
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With love in Christ!
Al

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[Eventide]

I agree Ezekiel Chapter Thirty-seven is speaking of the restoration of Israel though could we say Mat 27:52-53 was sort of a first-fruit of that to come?

IMO we could say that.. it concerns saints who were asleep being raised..

As mentioned, Matt 19 and Matt 25 are pretty solid biblical truths concerning the Lord coming and the regeneration of the saints... and the kingdom itself.

 

[Eventide]

I see the Lord’s Day as the time from RV 4:1 “. . I will shew thee things which must be hereafter,” and Rev 4:2 when Jesus receives His own throne, ". . a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

1 Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

1 Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

1 Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

How long is this period? When will there be no more death?

Rev 20:4 “. . they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Does this mean only a day?

I see it pretty much the same way, with the LAST DAY being the Day of the LORD, lasting a thousand years. That's ONE DAY with the LORD. It's not a 24 hour day, it's literally a thousand years, and it's the 7th Day when God rested from all His work.. So the end of the Day of the LORD would of course be AFTER the thousand years are ended..

I also believe that the church of God will be gone before that DAY... when the LORD comes as a thief in the NIGHT... when that bright and morning star appears... even before the day.

How else do people explain the multitudes in HEAVEN before the coming of the Lord..? which is imo a clear biblical fact.

 

[n2thelight]

Judah and Israel are two seperate Houses,Jew's make of the House of Judah

Jeremiah 3:11 "And the LORD said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah." ​