The true teachings of Jesus

[Free]

Your religion is 100% in error, misleading you to not enter Gods kingdom. The truths i share are reality.

How about answering my question:

Who is being spoken of in this Psalm here?

Psalm 102:26 They will perish, but you will remain; Just like a garment they will all wear out. Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away. 27 But you are the same, and your years will never end. 28 The children of your servants will dwell securely, And their offspring will be firmly established before you.” (NWT)

 

[jaybo]

Your religion is 100% in error, misleading you to not enter Gods kingdom. The truths i share are reality.

Are you seriously suggesting that you know God's truth 100% and that those who disagree with you will not enter God's kingdom? And the truths you share are pure reality?

Is "keiw1" code for Jesus Christ, God's Messiah?

 

[Alfred Persson]

Well of course.
Every spot=LORD is-YHWH is the true God=Jehovah, Jesus' Father.

I am happy you are satisfied with your personal relationship with God. That's all that counts in this world. I can testify I had no relationship with God until I confessed Jesus Christ is LORD publicly. Before receiving the Holy Spirit, I only knew about God, I didn't know Him personally. I have found Christ to be everything He promised to be and more:

28 "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30 "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." (Matt. 11:28-30 NKJ)

 

[keiw1]

How about answering my question:

Who is being spoken of in this Psalm here?

Psalm 102:26 They will perish, but you will remain; Just like a garment they will all wear out. Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away. 27 But you are the same, and your years will never end. 28 The children of your servants will dwell securely, And their offspring will be firmly established before you.” (NWT)

YHWH(Jehovah)

 

[keiw1]

Are you seriously suggesting that you know God's truth 100% and that those who disagree with you will not enter God's kingdom? And the truths you share are pure reality?

Is "keiw1" code for Jesus Christ, God's Messiah?

I learned from the teachers Jesus appointed-Matt 24:45--- God wont accept any less than being worshipped in spirit and TRUTH-John 4:22-24-- Truth has become abundant ( Daniel 12:4) here in these last days, through the teachers that Jesus appointed.

 

[keiw1]

I am happy you are satisfied with your personal relationship with God. That's all that counts in this world. I can testify I had no relationship with God until I confessed Jesus Christ is LORD publicly. Before receiving the Holy Spirit, I only knew about God, I didn't know Him personally. I have found Christ to be everything He promised to be and more:

28 "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
30 "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." (Matt. 11:28-30 NKJ)

Only YHWH(Jehovah) is called LORD all capitols, Jesus never was. LORD doesnt belong in the OT-YHWH is what God inspired in those spots. Men who had no right, by satans will, removed Gods name to mislead.

 

[for_his_glory]

All the more reason you stop evading my question, to prove how much better you are than me.

Sorry but I am not better than anyone else, but one who seeks truth, not by mans teachings, but through the teachings of Christ within the full context that is written. You do not care to discuss or answer questions as that would mean you might have to seek truth instead of Cessationism doctrines that have indoctrinated you without you realizing it. This is why hardly anyone participates in your threads as no one can discuss with someone whose mind is closed.

 

[for_his_glory]

Believe the truths i share. They are real.

In your own mind. Jesus taught us to trust no man, but to believe every word that came out of His mouth.

 

[for_his_glory]

The son of destruction( peredition)2Thess 2:3) rose up= the great apostasy= the religion that came out of Rome. And has 33,998 branches. A house divided will not stand.

It doesn't help to change the subject, just because you do not believe in the Trinity as what does any of this have to do with what I posted.

 

[for_his_glory]

What human technology accomplishes is irrelevant, immaterial and incompetent to your claim God is raising the dead though your prophets and apostles today, as He did in the NT.

If the special gifts only the apostles and prophets chosen by Christ in the 1st century to found Christianity were still continuing today, you would be able to list who was raising the dead today just as they did. You cannot because no one is raising the certifiably dead. Like Christ did after rigor mortis set in, with Lazarus.

Do you not believe that God can work miracles through doctors? If not that's sad.

 

[for_his_glory]

You believe God had to create his own wisdom.

Come on keiw1 believes God created Jesus as what the Watchtower teaches.

 

[for_his_glory]

Believe the truths i share. They are real.

They are only real to you as Jehovah’s Witnesses are controlled by a "Governing Body" which they claim is the "faithful and discreet slave" spoken of at Mathew 24:45. This group consists of 10 to 15 mature men that, Jehovah’s Witnesses are told, have direct guidance from God. The Governing Body in turn instructs followers with this guidance through the pages of the Watchtower and other publications. Jehovah’s Witnesses are told by this "Governing Body" that Scripture alone is insufficient to understand the things of God. One needs the Watchtower Society and the literature it publishes to properly understand the Bible. ("Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his "faithful and discreet slave," made up of spirit-anointed ones... Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do. Watchtower, December 1, 1981 p.27) they are the instruments God is using to teach the world the deeper things of the scriptures. People are not to think for themselves but instead submit to the Watchtower Society teachings. (" But a spirit of independent thinking does not prevail in God’s organization, and we have sound reasons for confidence in the men taking the lead among us. Watchtower September 15, 1989 p. 23) Jehovah's Witnesses believe they are the only people on earth that are serving God and the only ones that will be saved. They dare not question the teachings of the Watchtower Society; one who questions the Watchtower Society is considered to be weak in faith and could be disfellowshipped.

I pray that your eyes will be opened and you come out from under this controlling influence in your life before it's to late for you and that you come back to the teachings of Christ.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

Some of Prov 8 is about Wisdom. Some is speaking about Gods master worker= The being God sent = named Jesus as a mortal is the one speaking.

But Pro.8 says YHVH possessed wisdom at the "beginning" of his ways and you said this means the Father "created" his Son, so what you're really saying is That before creation, God had no wisdom.

 

[Free]

YHWH(Jehovah)

Correct. So lets look at Heb 1:8-12:

‘8 But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever and ever, and [the] scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness. 9 You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with [the] oil of exultation more than your partners.” 10 And: “You at [the] beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are [the] works of your hands. 11 They themselves will perish, but you yourself are to remain continually; and just like an outer garment they will all grow old, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as an outer garment; and they will be changed, but you are the same, and your years will never run out.’ (NWT)

Compare:

Psalm 102:25 Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth itself, And the heavens are the work of your hands. 26 They will perish, but you will remain; Just like a garment they will all wear out. Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away. 27 But you are the same, and your years will never end. 28 The children of your servants will dwell securely, And their offspring will be firmly established before you.” (NWT)

Notice that Heb 1:8 says God is saying this “with reference to the Son,” yet, as you said, in Psalm 102 it is speaking of Jehovah. So, is the writer of Hebrews wrong? How do you explain a passage in Psalms that is clearly speaking about God, being clearly applied to Jesus by God in Hebrews?

 

[Alfred Persson]

Do you not believe that God can work miracles through doctors? If not that's sad.

Deflection is evading the question. The question is: "Does God work signs and wonders through apostles and prophets today as He did in the 1st century," not whether God works through medical doctors.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

Come on keiw1 believes God created Jesus as what the Watchtower teaches.

I was referring back to Proverbs, where people confuse the attribute of wisdom, for the person of Jesus. Instead of wisdom being part of his character.

I once lived in a place where Jehovahs Witnesses visited about twice a month. They were always welcome, but we never agreed on who Jesus is.
One thing that helped was speaking face to face where answers to questions were expected. No ignoring to answer.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Sorry but I am not better than anyone else, but one who seeks truth, not by mans teachings, but through the teachings of Christ within the full context that is written. You do not care to discuss or answer questions as that would mean you might have to seek truth instead of Cessationism doctrines that have indoctrinated you without you realizing it. This is why hardly anyone participates in your threads as no one can discuss with someone whose mind is closed.

Perhaps they don't dispute my posts because they agree with them.

And as you consistently fail to address my points, perhaps they realize how wrong you are.

But they rather not say that, and be judged "closed minded"; just because they do not agree with your strained and odd interpretations of scripture.

 

[for_his_glory]

Deflection is evading the question. The question is: "Does God work signs and wonders through apostles and prophets today as He did in the 1st century," not whether God works through medical doctors.

When am I deflecting anything. God will work His signs and wonders through whom He chooses and who are we to question who He wants to work through others. Doctors can also be instruments of God's hands as many have been brought back to life and are now walking testimonies of God's power and authority that works through others.

My own husband would be dead right now if it wasn't for the technology of the breathing tube that kept him alive until he could breath on his own after a horrific auto accident that he should have died from. So don't tell me God does not work through life saving technology.

 

[for_his_glory]

Perhaps they don't dispute my posts because they agree with them.

And as you consistently fail to address my points, perhaps they realize how wrong you are.

But they rather not say that, and be judged "closed minded"; just because they do not agree with your strained and odd interpretations of scripture.

We can certainly see that most who reply to you do not agree with you or the teachings of Cessationism.

Excuse me!!! We do address your points and even ask you questions, but you refuse to answer them and then you want us to answer your questions. It doesn't work that way sir. You do not want to discuss, but only push your beliefs on others.

 

[for_his_glory]

I was referring back to Proverbs, where people confuse the attribute of wisdom, for the person of Jesus. Instead of wisdom being part of his character.

I once lived in a place where Jehovahs Witnesses visited about twice a month. They were always welcome, but we never agreed on who Jesus is.
One thing that helped was speaking face to face where answers to questions were expected. No ignoring to answer.

I've talked to many JW inviting them into my house, even sharing the word with them. Some you get through to and others will not leave the teachings of the Watchtower as they do not want to be disfellowshipped.