A discussion on TOTAL DEPRAVITY

[Fastfredy0]

You believe God sends people to hell FOR NO REASON.
What's worse?

Ridiculous and unfounded claim.

It's the R.C.s that pray to Mary and the Saint to intercede and believe bread and water are Christ's real blood. That IMO is your belief system. *sigh* LOL at that the log out of your eye (irony or ironies)

 

[jasonc]

So if God draws everyone...
Does everyone end up going to the Son?

1 Timothy 2:4 God desires that all come to salvation.
John 3:16 God loves the whole world.

Desire and decree are two different things

My pastor says otherwise .those are his words .

God doesn't desire Satan or his angels to be redeemed.


Would God reveal himself just to let you say no? You already wouldn't anyway .

So God fell in love with a mass murderer and can't get enough of that guy ?
My point here is that if God draws you .it's not so easy to resist and once you do you likely soon will be so hardened you won't care .

Few say that I was looking for God .I started it.no honestly because I was oddly seeking something before I got saved can say God set that up.something was missing in my life .
Because He first loved us ..

 

[GodsGrace]

Ridiculous and unfounded claim.

It's the R.C.s that pray to Mary and the Saint to intercede and believe bread and water are Christ's real blood. That IMO is your belief system. *sigh* LOL at that the log out of your eye (irony or ironies)

I don't think you understand your own faith:


By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death.
Calvin's Institutes Book 3, Chapter 21, Paragraph 5

The above is also covered and repeated in the WCF, Chapter III and more...

I don't have any time to devote to the above.

The NT teaches that God chooses who will go to heaven and who will go to hell BUT BASED ON REASONS HE LETS US KNOW ABOUT so that we can have the opportunity to save ourselves.

 

[GodsGrace]

Desire and decree are two different things

My pastor says otherwise .those are his words .

God doesn't desire Satan or his angels to be redeemed.


Would God reveal himself just to let you say no? You already wouldn't anyway .

So God fell in love with a mass murderer and can't get enough of that guy ?
My point here is that if God draws you .it's not so easy to resist and once you do you likely soon will be so hardened you won't care .

Few say that I was looking for God .I started it.no honestly because I was oddly seeking something before I got saved can say God set that up.something was missing in my life .
Because He first loved us ..

DRAW MEANS DRAW.
DECREE MEANS DECREE.
DESIRE MEANS DESIRE.

Simple English.
Too bad we don't have all the words the Greeks had.

 

[jasonc]

DRAW MEANS DRAW.
DECREE MEANS DECREE.
DESIRE MEANS DESIRE.

Simple English.
Too bad we don't have all the words the Greeks had.

So God knows you reject him but hopes you won't and wastes his time a being that exists ,you were born ,alive and have died and are long dead and he waits for you to make a decision .

No some words don't translate well at all.

Yet you pick on the word draw that simply means to make my self presentable.

My natural lost self wants nothing to do with God .if God doesn't break my desire ,I never would .he doesn't go ,oh it's so good over here.in fact to serve him ,means you might suffer the complete opposite of what you imply.

My death means pain .no one just keels over and no pain .they feel it all.watch a man die and you will notice the fight to live .

We are naturally repulsed by the things if God .

I would prefer never to even be in church .I hate people .I hate alot of things ,yet I know that God says go .

No man truly wants God .he has to break our spirit .

If God didn't tell us about him we wouldn't know .God wants us,we don't want him

Now I'm more middle then you are. I don't see God not knowing what we will do and not simply allowing it to take course .He knows who will and let's them .

The reformed teach it this way .those who he Draws can't resist. Those who resist God let's it happen .they rejected God .the Gospel offer is the same to both .

 

[Fastfredy0]

I don't think you understand your own faith:

I am getting a better idea of your faith though ...

I know you are posting/teaching on the blessings/doctrine of the MASS. That should be a HUGE INDICATOR.

1. Adoration: We recognize that God is our Father, Creator and LORD and that He has always loved us.
2. Thankfulness: Eucharist means thankfulness. We thank God for everything because everything is a gift from Him.
3. Reparation: Sins detach us from God. We ask God to forgive our every sinful action and give us the mercy that only Jesus can give.
4. Impetration: We have much need...both physically and spiritually. We give our requests to God with forceful prayer and together with Jesus' offer of salvation. God give us grace that we need, according to our needs.

Tomorrow: The Parts of the Mass

 

[Free]

DRAW MEANS DRAW.
DECREE MEANS DECREE.
DESIRE MEANS DESIRE.

Simple English.
Too bad we don't have all the words the Greeks had.

But we have some they didn't have, like "pizza," "cheeseburger," "fries," and "Pepsi."

 

[jasonc]

But we have some they didn't have, like "pizza," "cheeseburger," "fries," and "Pepsi."

Mozzarella,pasta ,lol

 

[electedbyHim]

Polpette?

 

[jasonc]

Speaking of Greek ,the Greek word for to spin is gyro .

We eat them .yet they don't spin.

 

[GodsGrace]

But we have some they didn't have, like "pizza," "cheeseburger," "fries," and "Pepsi."

1:20 AM here.
You're makin' me hungry!

 

[GodsGrace]

Speaking of Greek ,the Greek word for to spin is gyro .

We eat them .yet they don't spin.

The meat they make them with spins?

 

[GodsGrace]

Speaking of Greek ,the Greek word for to spin is gyro .

We eat them .yet they don't spin.

Would I love some Greek pastry.

 

[jasonc]

The meat they make them with spins?

No the dough is spun to make that shape .and most can't say that word .

Yeero .not Any g or j sound .

 

[Free]

1:20 AM here.
You're makin' me hungry!

Well, it's my dinner time and I fasted yesterday, so I am quite hungry. Plus, a friend from church dropped off some chili and homemade bread last night for us. :woot

 

[jasonc]

Would I love some Greek pastry.

Spiro's tavern one of two locally ,then the Greek Orthodox church with it's Greek festival

 

[Free]

Polpette?

What is that? Sounds delicious.

 

[GodsGrace]

Well, it's my dinner time and I fasted yesterday, so I am quite hungry. Plus, a friend from church dropped off some chili and homemade bread last night for us. :woot

Hmmm.
Buon appetite.
E Buona Notte.

 

[GodsGrace]

What is that? Sounds delicious.

Meatballs.

 

[electedbyHim]

What is that? Sounds delicious.

Meatballs