Douglas Summers
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I don't know your god or your book according to your teachings? It is strange fire to me. The Scriptures say they are not for private interpretation. Romans 2:29 is one Scripture, and not knowing anything else, I could fall in with you. But Romans is about the body of Christ which is one new man made up of Jew and Gentile (Letter to the Ephesians). In the study of Romans Paul makes it clear to the Jew that they (with their laws) are no better than the Gentiles, and he tells the Gentiles that because God has chosen them, not to boast against the Jew, for He has not forsaken Israel and His promises to them. (Romans Chapter 11) Please study it before and if you reply along with (Acts 1:4-9) (Acts 15:13-18) (Amos 9:9-11) The Church and Israel are two different entities with different promises and different purposes in the Kingdom.There is a simple "fact check" that I apply to every claim of understanding about scripture from anyone. It's found in Matt. 4:4 and again in Luke 4:4.
Your claim above doesn't and can't stand up to that measure.
So, because you took a wrong turn of understanding in the first attempt above, then you move to justify that false claim. And Paul in 1 Cor. 10 does a full on smackdown of what you are attempting in this second attempt at spinning the narrative. In the process your first errant claim #2 collapses because Paul says otherwise. If you read Acts 7:38 your claim #2 is stopped dead in it's tracks with a single scripture.
Knowing this the claims will either have to be scrapped or the claim is just another false claim that is hung out there without scriptural support.
Israel is a very deep subject in scripture. Does it merely mean a nation of people in the middle east? No. The fathers of faith, Abraham/Isaac and Jacob hold many clues about the nature of Israel in their writings. To understand Israel one has to go back to when and where the term originated, and how. It is found with Jacob. And the meaning of Israel points directly to our Divine Sovereign. For people, any people of faith in Christ, the meaning of Israel is "God Prevails." Anyone who has been called into Christ wears that banner for themselves, Israel, "God Prevails."
I accept that name, that term, Israel, to be a statement of the basis of our faith. It has nearly nothing to do with a spot of land or an ethnic group of people. Paul goes to the same landing place here:
Galatians 6:
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
Uh, again, no.
Romans 2:29
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
You have taken on a bad foundational understanding and the errors will just continue to compound. It's nothing new. Happens to a lot of believers.
If we can't get the basics down in scriptural harmony, understanding eschatology is impossible.
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