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You may not accept the 1000 years as stated in Rev but the reason isn't because Jesus failed to make the testimony clear. He gave that testimony and all I read is basically Rev is hard to understand and isn't clear. There is a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous as stated in Daniel and the gospels but God has made it clear in Rev that there is 1000 years between them. You either believe God or you don't but Rev 20 is a clear read.
Rev 20
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. Over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him a thousand years.
Psalm 110
The Lord says to my lord,
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies your footstool.”
Back in Rev 6:9-11 we read about the martyr's under the alter waiting to have their blood avenged and are told to wait a season until their fellow servants and brethren should be killed as they were and then all should be fulfilled. That fulfillment will come with the last one being beheaded for their faith in God as they refuse the mark of the beast.
IF a thousand years is as a day... then are there 365,000 what we call days .. .there are 8760 hours in a earthly year .. how many in a thousand..
Spiritual discernment would have let you know that, that was not so.
The Apostles taught from Gods Written Word and so did Jesus. All the classic foundational Christian matters were drawn directly from the O.T. writings.
Correct, I never disputed that. In fact, all of the OT Scripture were given by the Lord to be written, even to the very words,(2 Tim. 3:16) (2 Pet. 1:20-21) (1 Thess. 2:13) (1 Cor. 2:13) But that only applies to the original writings. And even more, Christ confirms The OT Scriptures of Creation, Adam and Eve, Moses, David and so on.. ALL Scripture is inspired by God, and Jesus would know (Heb. 1:3) (Col. 2:9)
Revelation was not plucked out of thin air. Everything in it can be found one way or another from the O.T. When anyone casts aside Israel or the O.T. they do themselves a disservice. (correct) I never claimed any different)
Here is where the church is at (Heb. 5:12-6:13) This is where the Church should be (Acts 2:22-47) and this should be the Spirit and heart of the Church (1 Corinthians chapter 13)
While denominations, the religious, and self willed argue over doctrines and Scripture meanings, and their pride in knowledge "so called" are incensed over being challenged on their own interpretations,
The world has become nothing more than a hollow statue of religious icons and fables The visible church has settled down in to the world where Satan's throne is and has prostituted itself with the world.
(for those who do not understand this statement) Satan is the prince of this worlds (age and principles) (Revelation's letters to the Churches) Yet in this age there is still a living body of Christ (Church of Philadelphia).
There is no scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is going to reign here on earth for 1000 years with we His saints after the angle is sent to bind Satan.
A season is God's timing not ours.Paul was beheaded. Does that mean a season is nearly two thousand years?
Revelation 20:1-9
And I saw an angel come down from heaven,
having the key of the bottomless pit
and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years,
And cast him into the bottomless pit,
and shut him up,
and set a seal upon him,
that he should deceive the nations no more,
till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
and after that he must be loosed a little season.
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;
and they lived
and reigned with Christ
a thousand years.
to live/living water ~zao
even/then/also ~kai
to rule/reign ~basileuo
with/after/behind ~meta
Christ/anointed ~Christos
a thousand ~chilioi
year ~etos
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Would this help?
A season is God's timing not ours.
I wasn't talking about the four seasons. I was talking about Gods timing not being our timing. What we count as days and years are not always what God counts as His days and years.Winter is coming.
So less have a look at the word "they", sorry its the same concept as whats the meaning of the word "is".What part of they do you not understand in these passages of scripture. They are those whose souls who have gone up to heaven that have been beheaded for their witness and testimony of Christ.
??? Explain? smaller ----->If people claim they are only in the "church of Philadelphia" in particular, because it is the only church where they think they can see how to wriggle out from being in the other churches, and hence NOT hear what is said to the other churches, it merely shows their lack of personal insights. One can not claim to be in the Church of Philadelphia. It is not something you join. Christ is speaking here of four things:There is no division in the church(es) in Jesus' Eyes, OR the mutual conditions of ALL of those churches and ALL their members on the ill side of the ledgers.
??? Explain? smaller ----->If people claim they are only in the "church of Philadelphia" in particular, because it is the only church where they think they can see how to wriggle out from being in the other churches, and hence NOT hear what is said to the other churches, it merely shows their lack of personal insights. One can not claim to be in the Church of Philadelphia. It is not something you join.
Christ is speaking here of four things:
Your judgment of my calling and election and things Spiritual is void before the Lord,
- All the churches in Revelation were established churches (all located in Turkey) Probably by Paul. And it is an admonition to these local churches.
- It is a warning to all churches through the ages.
- It is also to each individual person in the church (Those who have ears to hear)
- And is a prophetic condition of the churches through the ages.
I wasn't talking about the four seasons. I was talking about Gods timing not being our timing. What we count as days and years are not always what God counts as His days and years.
Do you have a specific biblical example?
So less have a look at the word "they", sorry its the same concept as whats the meaning of the word "is".
Example:
What part of "is" do you not understand in these passages of scripture.
punch line
"is" are those whose souls who have gone up to heaven that have been beheaded for their witness and testimony of Christ.
Revelation 6:9-10
Does it say that they refused the mark?
Does it say that they was beheaded?
It clearly says "to put to death by violence ~sphazo"
If it doesn't say it then don't add it!
Revelation 20:4
not ~ou
kiss/prostrate oneself in homage ~proskuneo
an animal/venomous dangerous beast/bestial man ~therion
neither/not ~oute
of them/he ~autos
an image ~eikon
even/then/also ~kai
not ~ou
to take/to receive ~lambano a stamp/thing carved/sculpture/graven work ~charagma
of time/place/order ~epi of them/he ~autos
the forehead ~metopon even/then/also ~kai
of time/place/order ~epi of them/he ~autos
by the help/agency of any one ~cheir even/then/also ~kai
to live/living water ~zao even/then/also ~kai
to rule/reign ~basileuo with/after/behind ~meta
Christ/anointed ~Christos a thousand ~chilioi
Does it say that they refused the mark?
Does it say that they refused the image?
Does it say that they was beheaded?
Does it say that they will reign with Christ a thousand years?
Does it say that the "they" are the same "they"?
Does it imply that the "they" are the same "they"?
you are taking away from the words in Revelation.There is no scripture in the Bible that says Jesus is going to reign here on earth for 1000 years with WE His saints after the angle is sent to bind Satan.
I wasn't talking about the four seasons. I was talking about Gods timing not being our timing. What we count as days and years are not always what God counts as His days and years.
Do you have a specific biblical example?
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8; Acts 1:7; 1Thessalonians 5:1-5; Galatians 4:4; 2Peter 3:8; Revelation 6:11
None of these verses support the view that what the Holy Spirit communicates to us through scripture regarding time is not dependable since people have a different concept of time than God. God knows how we count days and years, and takes that into account when communicating to us through scripture lest He author confusion. Any error in understanding is on our part.
the "is" was a bill clinton reference, srry you didnt get that part of it. I was trying to have a sense of humor, guess I need to work on it.
When you repeat the statement over and over that
you are taking away from the words in Revelation.
You then add the word "WE" and that is a problem.
The "WE" per Revelation 22:18-20 would not be a part of those under the altar, neither would the "WE" reign with Christ a thousand years.
The "WE" is those that God shall take away his part from the Book of Life.
Please Stop it!