The Reception of the Holy Spirit

[Robert Pate]

Please show us the resource proof for these four accusations within the doctrine of each of these you have posted.

See my upcoming article, "How the Gospel defines Christianity".

 

[Robert Pate]

Hi RP
Catholics believe they have received the Holy Spirit through baptism. If they've been baptized as infants, they must accept their baptism and live by faith in God as adults.

Calvinists believe they've received the Holy Spirit by their continuing to believe and by their acts of charity, or good works.

Christians by their actual faith.
The Assy of God by speaking in tongues.

Jews,,,I don't know. Probably living a good life and following some rules.

Right. Baptism is a work of the law. Any religious thing that we do is a work of the law. This is why Paul said, "By the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in his sight" Romans 3:20.

 

[Robert Pate]

Do you know how to discern if the Spirit is in you (let alone the next person)? The Bible outlines several clear indicators of the Spirit dwelling within a person, baptizing them into Jesus Christ and giving them new, spiritual life in him.

1.) The Spirit convicts the born-again person (and the world) of righteousness, judgment and sin (John 16:8; Revelation 2&3).
2.) The Spirit strengthens the born-again person in times of temptation and trial (Ephesians 3:16; Romans 8:13; Philippians 2:13; Acts 1:8).
3.) The Spirit illuminates the mind of the child of God to divine truth (1 Corinthians 2:10-16; John 16:13; 14:26).
4.) The Spirit comforts the person in whom he dwells (2 Corinthians 1:3-5).
5.) The Spirit transforms the born-again person, producing the fruit of his nature in them, making them increasingly holy in their desires, thinking and conduct (Galatians 5:22-23; Ephesians 5:9; Philippians 2:13; Romans 15:13; 2 Timothy 1:7).

As the Holy Spirit acts upon the born-again person, they obtain the "witness of the Spirit with their spirit" that they are, indeed, genuinely a redeemed child of God (Romans 8:16). This is not just a feeling, an "inner impression" that one is saved, but the clear evidence of the Spirit's presence within through the things listed above (and others unmentioned).

Many counterfeit the Spirit's work, confusing a mere guilty conscience, for example, with the Spirit's conviction. Or they call fleshly self-effort in keeping God's commands, holiness. Or they say that mere accumulation of information about the Christian faith is the illuminating work of the Spirit. Or they hold that the comfort of the Spirit is a feeling, an emotional "warm fuzzy," not the unshakeable peace and rest born of a mind and heart controlled and directed by the Spirit into a deeply settled confidence in God. And so on.

The work of the Spirit, however, is unmistakable, impossible to truly counterfeit - especially for those who know what to look for - and provides certain proof that he has made of the born-again believer a temple, his dwelling place forevermore. (1 Corinthians 6:19-20; Hebrews 13:5)

Very good. The Holy Spirit also magnifies the work and the person of Jesus Christ, John 16:13-16.

 

[GodsGrace]

Right. Baptism is a work of the law. Any religious thing that we do is a work of the law. This is why Paul said, "By the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in his sight" Romans 3:20.

Do you believe that doing something JESUS commanded us to do is a work of the law?

 

[Vinny37]

Actually, it was 8,000 that were converted to Christ on the day of Pentecost

Actually, it was 8,000 that were converted to Christ on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2:41 and Acts 4:4.

Just because someone believes in Jesus does not mean that they are Christians. Satan also believes that Jesus is the Christ and trembles with fear. A Christian is someone that believes Jesus has dealt with their sins and that because of his work they have been justified. Evidence of their faith is that they don't need laws, rules or religion. The lost are trying to justify themselves by works, laws and religion.

To be pedantic—as you seem to wish—by Ac.4:4, growing daily (2:47) and with a spurt, the number had grown from 3,000 (Pentecost: 2:41 - do you not believe what Luke wrote here?) to about 5,000 (I Howard Marshall, Act (TNTC), 1992:98). If you wish to touch on the Greek text for Ac.4:4 re ‘men’ or ‘people’, please feel free.

I qualified evangelistic ‘belief’ as ‘welcome’ (Jhn.1:12’s slant). Words have a meaning-range. Satan does not welcome Jesus; Christology does not welcome Jesus. Indeed, to welcome Jesus does not need, but is enriched by, salvation knowledge (soteriology). My position would be initial salvation by welcome, not initial salvation by knowledge about him, though knowledge of him is primed by knowledge about him. Factual knowledge can be salvific, for ongoing Christification/sanctification.

Laws/rules/religion, are not needed for initial salvation (conversion), but very beneficial for converts. They don’t justify us into Christ’s kingdom, but they do help us be just, within it. James & Paul rejected antinomianism, and both (I believe) enjoined good religion.

 

[Vinny37]

Water Baptism is nothing more than a person's public profession of faith in Christ.

Spiritual baptism is the results of believing the Gospel, Galatians 3:2. When one believes the Gospel and trusts in Christ for their salvation they are born again by the Holy Spirit, 1 Peter 1:23.

I think your wording demeans Christian water baptism. I agree it’s post-conversionary, not entrance-conversionary, but I hold that it’s a re-enactment of death/burial/resurrection, and potentially enriches each water-baptised Christian (likewise the eucharist).

Although I don’t agree the ‘born-again’ term (it’s Nicodemean humour, scotched by Jesus), I basically agree your point on ‘spiritual baptism’ (as a technical term defined by your context, not as such in Gal.3:2). Whoever welcomes Jesus into their life, will be welcomed by the spirit into Christ’s life (Christianity).

 

[Vinny37]

A work of the law is any religious thing that one does. This is why salvation is by faith alone.

I reject the five Solas/Solae (Onlys)—which the Reformers didn’t come up with—partly because they can sound as if they each stand alone, rather than only together as a package deal (as all being needed), and partly because some do disservice to trinitarianism. Eg, saying Christ alone, formally discounts the father and the spirit as saviour—and even the noncarnate son. I replace them with the five necessaria: Scripture is necessary: Scriptura necessaria est; grace is necessary: gratia necessaria est; faith is necessary: fides necessaria est; the cross is necessary: crux necessaria est; giving glory to the trinity is necessary: trinitatem glorificare necessarium est. Necessary for what? That’s a biggy.

 

[Mungo]

A work of the law is any religious thing that one does. This is why salvation is by faith alone.

Again, that is your personal definition. It's not what Paul meant.

According your personal definition believing is a 'work of the law' because it's something we do.

According your personal definition repenting is a 'work of the law' because it's something we do.

 

[Mungo]

Lev 16:23 And Aaron shall come into the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall put off the linen garments, which he put on when he went into the holy place, and shall leave them there:
Lev 16:24 And he shall wash his flesh with water in the holy place, and put on his garments, and come forth, and offer his burnt offering, and the burnt offering of the people, and make an atonement for himself, and for the people.
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Thank you for that long exposition. I agree with some some but not other parts.

I disagree that the tevilah in a mikvah is a shadow of John's baptism was a "shadow of John's baptism and the baptism of the Holy Spirit". It was a shadow of christian baptism in water - baptism in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5)

There seem to be three occasions where a mikvar is required in Leviticus, those involving birth (including sex and menstruation), death (including skin diseases) and coming into the presence of God. They seem to be a reminder of our uncleanness and the need for purification. So the mikvar also became a symbol of repentance, of expressing faith that cleansing was available and of asking for it. Hence John the Baptist baptised in the Jordan as a baptism of repentance.

Jesus took this Jewish ritual and made it a Christian one (Mt 28:19 and Mk 16:16) but making the effects more powerful because it is Jesus who is the prime baptiser.
We can see the three purposes I noted above in Christian baptism.

Birth – we are born from above (born again) in baptism (Jn 3:5)

Death – Paul compares baptism to dying with Christ and rising to new life. There are two connotations here because entering a mikvar involved physical descent and coming out a physical ascent (rising), something Paul would be very aware of. (Rom 6:3-4 and Col 2:11-12). When Jews became Christians the public and private mikvahs became used for baptism instead.

Coming into the presence of God and forgiveness of sin – In baptism we are made children of God and our sins are forgiven (1Cor 12:12-13, Coll 2:11-13, Acts 2:38 and Acts 22:16).

When the Jews and Evangelists wrote in Greek they avoided the Greek words for bathe and bath because of the sexual connotations. The Greek communal bathing was a place of gossip (often crude), communal nudity and homosexuality. So they used the word baptizein (and its derivatives) instead. The word therefore expresses this ritual purification in water. It is unnecessary to say “water baptism” as water was integral to the process, just as it was unnecessary to say a water mikvar or a water tevilah. That is what baptism was and is.

Now this baptism was prophesied by Ezekial (Ez 36:25-27): I will sprinkle clean water upon you to cleanse you from all your impurities, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. I will give you a new heart and place a new spirit within you, taking from your bodies your stony hearts and giving you natural hearts. I will put my spirit within you….

I will sprinkle clean water upon you – baptism with water.

This is not the same as the so-called "baptism with the Holy Spirit" (or Christ's baptism as you unbiblically call it). That has a different purpose.

That baptism with water and was understood to be salvific by the early church is shown by these quotes from early church writings.

"Regarding baptism, baptise thus. After giving the forgoing instructions, "Baptise in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit in running water. But if you have no running water, baptise in any other..." Didache – (1st century AD)

"A man is dead before he receives the seal, he puts off death and receives life. The seal, therefore is water. The dead go down into the water and come out of it living" The Shepherd 9:16:3 (AD 80)

"This means that we go down into the water full of sins and foulness, and we come up, bearing fruit in our hearts, fear and hope in Jesus in the Spirit". Letter to Barnabus chap 11 (70-131 AD)

"As many as are persuaded and believe that what we [Christians] teach and say is true, and undertake to be able to live accordingly, and instructed to pray and to entreat God with fasting, for the remission of their sins that are past, we pray and fast with them. Then they are brought by us where there is water and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. For, in the name of God, the Father . . . and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit [Matt. 28:19], they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said, ‘Unless you are born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:3]" (Justin Martyr First Apology 61 [A.D. 151]).

"‘And [Naaman] dipped himself . . . seven times in the Jordan’ [2 Kgs. 5:14]. It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but [this served] as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord, from our old transgressions, being spiritually regenerated as newborn babes, even as the Lord has declared: ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’" (Irenaeus Fragment 34 [A.D. 190]).

That last quote from Irenaeus is particularly interesting because he was a disciple of Polycarp, who was himself a disciple of John. So when he quotes from John 3:5 he knows water means real H2O.

There is more I could say but perhaps that is long enough.

 

[Christ_empowered]

Not catholic but I’m rather wary of anti catholic sentiments. I’m rather fond of some concepts from catholic morality that seem to be absent from Protestant thought…the concept of the common good is a big one.

Raised liberal end of what was left of the Presbyterian church so…

Im inclined to view Fruits of the Spirit and other signs of transformation as indicators of genuine conversion and His work in a believers life not a result of an additional baptism…

 

[for_his_glory]

Thank you for that long exposition. I agree with some some but not other parts.

I disagree that the tevilah in a mikvah is a shadow of John's baptism was a "shadow of John's baptism and the baptism of the Holy Spirit". It was a shadow of christian baptism in water - baptism in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5)

There seem to be three occasions where a mikvar is required in Leviticus, those involving birth (including sex and menstruation), death (including skin diseases) and coming into the presence of God. They seem to be a reminder of our uncleanness and the need for purification. So the mikvar also became a symbol of repentance, of expressing faith that cleansing was available and of asking for it. Hence John the Baptist baptised in the Jordan as a baptism of repentance.

Jesus took this Jewish ritual and made it a Christian one (Mt 28:19 and Mk 16:16) but making the effects more powerful because it is Jesus who is the prime baptiser.
We can see the three purposes I noted above in Christian baptism.

Birth – we are born from above (born again) in baptism (Jn 3:5)

Death – Paul compares baptism to dying with Christ and rising to new life. There are two connotations here because entering a mikvar involved physical descent and coming out a physical ascent (rising), something Paul would be very aware of. (Rom 6:3-4 and Col 2:11-12). When Jews became Christians the public and private mikvahs became used for baptism instead.

Coming into the presence of God and forgiveness of sin – In baptism we are made children of God and our sins are forgiven (1Cor 12:12-13, Coll 2:11-13, Acts 2:38 and Acts 22:16).

When the Jews and Evangelists wrote in Greek they avoided the Greek words for bathe and bath because of the sexual connotations. The Greek communal bathing was a place of gossip (often crude), communal nudity and homosexuality. So they used the word baptizein (and its derivatives) instead. The word therefore expresses this ritual purification in water. It is unnecessary to say “water baptism” as water was integral to the process, just as it was unnecessary to say a water mikvar or a water tevilah. That is what baptism was and is.

Now this baptism was prophesied by Ezekial (Ez 36:25-27): I will sprinkle clean water upon you to cleanse you from all your impurities, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. I will give you a new heart and place a new spirit within you, taking from your bodies your stony hearts and giving you natural hearts. I will put my spirit within you….

I will sprinkle clean water upon you – baptism with water.

This is not the same as the so-called "baptism with the Holy Spirit" (or Christ's baptism as you unbiblically call it). That has a different purpose.

That baptism with water and was understood to be salvific by the early church is shown by these quotes from early church writings.

"Regarding baptism, baptise thus. After giving the forgoing instructions, "Baptise in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit in running water. But if you have no running water, baptise in any other..." Didache – (1st century AD)

"A man is dead before he receives the seal, he puts off death and receives life. The seal, therefore is water. The dead go down into the water and come out of it living" The Shepherd 9:16:3 (AD 80)

"This means that we go down into the water full of sins and foulness, and we come up, bearing fruit in our hearts, fear and hope in Jesus in the Spirit". Letter to Barnabus chap 11 (70-131 AD)

"As many as are persuaded and believe that what we [Christians] teach and say is true, and undertake to be able to live accordingly, and instructed to pray and to entreat God with fasting, for the remission of their sins that are past, we pray and fast with them. Then they are brought by us where there is water and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. For, in the name of God, the Father . . . and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit [Matt. 28:19], they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said, ‘Unless you are born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:3]" (Justin Martyr First Apology 61 [A.D. 151]).

"‘And [Naaman] dipped himself . . . seven times in the Jordan’ [2 Kgs. 5:14]. It was not for nothing that Naaman of old, when suffering from leprosy, was purified upon his being baptized, but [this served] as an indication to us. For as we are lepers in sin, we are made clean, by means of the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord, from our old transgressions, being spiritually regenerated as newborn babes, even as the Lord has declared: ‘Except a man be born again through water and the Spirit, he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’" (Irenaeus Fragment 34 [A.D. 190]).

That last quote from Irenaeus is particularly interesting because he was a disciple of Polycarp, who was himself a disciple of John. So when he quotes from John 3:5 he knows water means real H2O.

There is more I could say but perhaps that is long enough.

This is why I believe the word "water" in John 3:5 means word as in living word. I see nothing wrong with being immersed in water like John's water baptism, but I see it as only an outward appearance of an inward conversion through the Spiritual rebirth from above.

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Galatians 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

John 1:1-14, read all the verses, but especially notice vs. 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. This is the Spiritual rebirth from above Jesus was teaching Nicodemus in John 3 and has nothing to do with literal water. The word made flesh in Christ brings salvation to all who hear the preaching of the Gospel. First comes hearing then confessing we are sinners needing God's grace through faith as we repent of our sins accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. Once we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior them immediately comes the baptism Christ talked about being God's gift of the Holy Spirit as we are baptized into Christ as we are indwelled with the Holy Spirit as we are sealed unto the day of redemption, Ephesians 4:30. Everything comes by the word of God and by His Holy Spirit, not by water.

Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

John's baptism by immersion in water was only for repentance as an outward appearance to others as in, "prepare ye the way of the Lord make straight your path". It was in preparation for the coming of Christ in accepting Him as Lord and Savior. We are not made clean by being immersed in water, but only by the blood of the Lamb, Isaiah 1:18; Matthew 26:26-28; Romans 3:5; Hebrews 9:22; 1 John 1:7.

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, 2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) 3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee. Since there is a comma before "but his disciples" this can be taken two different ways. Meaning Christ only water baptized His 12 disciples or the disciples baptized others in water which could be a possibility even before the commission in Matthew 28:19, 20, but can only be speculated. The original letters would not have had punctuation and we need to read without punctuation that can change the meaning of the original letters.

The baptism of Christ being that of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit could not be done until Jesus ascended up to heaven and then God sent down His Holy Spirit to indwell those by faith that confessed Jesus as Lord and Savior like the 120 in the upper room when according to Acts 1:3 Christ to whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: 4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

There are around 1526 instances of living water in the Bible and here are just a few: John 4:4-26; 7:37-39; 12:44-50; Ephesians 5:26; 1 John 5:5-8; Jeremiah 17:13; Zechariah 14:8, 9; Rev 21:6-8; Ezekiel 47:22

 

[for_his_glory]

See my upcoming article, "How the Gospel defines Christianity".

I am not going to search for your article as I am asking you for the Biblical source for each of these statements you posted.

How various religions believe that they have received the Holy Spirit.

Catholicism: By the works of the law.

Calvinism: By the works of the law.

Christianity: By the hearing of faith.

Judaism: By the works of the law.

Please take each one and give us the doctrine that shows three of these are only by works of the law. I am asking for Catholicism doctrine, Calvinism doctrine and Judaism doctrine of what the doctrine actually says word for word.

 

[for_his_glory]

By "baptism of Christ" do you mean the gift of the Holy Spirit, (baptism of the Holy Spirit), or the baptism of John done in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins?
Or is it some other baptism?

I explained the difference between John's baptism and that of the Baptism of Christ in my post #15.

Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire

Two different baptisms.

 

[Hopeful]

Right. Baptism is a work of the law. Any religious thing that we do is a work of the law. This is why Paul said, "By the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in his sight" Romans 3:20.

As telling the truth is also a "work of the Law", by your POV, we can't tell the truth in order to be saved.
Balderdash.
It is doctrines like that that make the world think Christianity is of the devil.

 

[Hopeful]

I explained the difference between John's baptism and that of the Baptism of Christ in my post #15.
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire

OK, thanks.
So we have water baptism, now done in the name of Jesus Christ but still for the remission of sins, plus the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Though the baptism done with fire, is yet a third baptism at the end of the world.

Two different baptisms.

Three really, but only one that man can do.

 

[Mungo]

This is why I believe the word "water" in John 3:5 means word as in living word. I see nothing wrong with being immersed in water like John's water baptism, but I see it as only an outward appearance of an inward conversion through the Spiritual rebirth from above.

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Galatians 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

John 1:1-14, read all the verses, but especially notice vs. 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. This is the Spiritual rebirth from above Jesus was teaching Nicodemus in John 3 and has nothing to do with literal water. The word made flesh in Christ brings salvation to all who hear the preaching of the Gospel. First comes hearing then confessing we are sinners needing God's grace through faith as we repent of our sins accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. Once we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior them immediately comes the baptism Christ talked about being God's gift of the Holy Spirit as we are baptized into Christ as we are indwelled with the Holy Spirit as we are sealed unto the day of redemption, Ephesians 4:30. Everything comes by the word of God and by His Holy Spirit, not by water.

Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

John's baptism by immersion in water was only for repentance as an outward appearance to others as in, "prepare ye the way of the Lord make straight your path". It was in preparation for the coming of Christ in accepting Him as Lord and Savior. We are not made clean by being immersed in water, but only by the blood of the Lamb, Isaiah 1:18; Matthew 26:26-28; Romans 3:5; Hebrews 9:22; 1 John 1:7.

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, 2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) 3 He left Judaea, and departed again into Galilee. Since there is a comma before "but his disciples" this can be taken two different ways. Meaning Christ only water baptized His 12 disciples or the disciples baptized others in water which could be a possibility even before the commission in Matthew 28:19, 20, but can only be speculated. The original letters would not have had punctuation and we need to read without punctuation that can change the meaning of the original letters.

The baptism of Christ being that of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit could not be done until Jesus ascended up to heaven and then God sent down His Holy Spirit to indwell those by faith that confessed Jesus as Lord and Savior like the 120 in the upper room when according to Acts 1:3 Christ to whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: 4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

There are around 1526 instances of living water in the Bible and here are just a few: John 4:4-26; 7:37-39; 12:44-50; Ephesians 5:26; 1 John 5:5-8; Jeremiah 17:13; Zechariah 14:8, 9; Rev 21:6-8; Ezekiel 47:22

I disagree with much of this. However this is turning into another baptism thread and we have one running already (What is the baptism that saves us now?). So I'm going to (metaphorically) bite my tongue and leave it there.

 

[Robert Pate]

Do you believe that doing something JESUS commanded us to do is a work of the law?

Jesus was a teacher of the law. The law judges and condemns. The law also convicts and leads us to Christ, Galatians 3:24.

 

[Robert Pate]

I am not going to search for your article as I am asking you for the Biblical source for each of these statements you posted.

How various religions believe that they have received the Holy Spirit.

Catholicism: By the works of the law.

Calvinism: By the works of the law.

Christianity: By the hearing of faith.

Judaism: By the works of the law.

Please take each one and give us the doctrine that shows three of these are only by works of the law. I am asking for Catholicism doctrine, Calvinism doctrine and Judaism doctrine of what the doctrine actually says word for word.

The Holy Spirit is only given to those that hear and believe the Gospel, Galatians 3:4.

Catholics, Calvinist, Judaism do not believe the Gospel.

 

[Robert Pate]

I reject the five Solas/Solae (Onlys)—which the Reformers didn’t come up with—partly because they can sound as if they each stand alone, rather than only together as a package deal (as all being needed), and partly because some do disservice to trinitarianism. Eg, saying Christ alone, formally discounts the father and the spirit as saviour—and even the noncarnate son. I replace them with the five necessaria: Scripture is necessary: Scriptura necessaria est; grace is necessary: gratia necessaria est; faith is necessary: fides necessaria est; the cross is necessary: crux necessaria est; giving glory to the trinity is necessary: trinitatem glorificare necessarium est. Necessary for what? That’s a biggy.

Salvation is by faith alone because it is by Christ alone. There is no scripture that says the Father is the savior. What the scripture does say is that, "God was in Christ reconciling us and the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:18-19.

 

[Mungo]

The Holy Spirit is only given to those that hear and believe the Gospel, Galatians 3:4.

Catholics, Calvinist, Judaism do not believe the Gospel.

Catholics don't believe in the gospel of the cult of Pateism.