[__ Science __ ] Covid Vaccine — Texas Senate Discussion

[Barbarian]

Lol! Try to convince yourself much? Action and words must align. It's called walking the walk and talking the talk.

Not disparaging your faith; just suggesting that maybe it might be a good idea to model yourself to the things Jesus is telling you. I think Matthew 22:37 would be a good place to start.

If you support abortion, one of us does. And no, vaccines don't use aborted babies. When you start making claims like that, you make it harder for pro-life people. Try to avoid those sorts of things.

I think you probably need to consider that it's not consistent with TOS to question the faith of others. I won't report you, but someone else might. Be careful, um?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

It's not influenza. And it killed over a million Americans in the past two years. About one American in ever 330 Americans, and the data suggests that there is a large undercount.

The percentage of those positive who died was 1% and the average age 71 years old. I wonder how many 71+ Americans die each year.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

In any difficult decision, the wise man thinks AND asks God what he should do. Then the Christian, only ones able to hear His voice, do as He says.

Now in Spring 20 I inquired of the Lord as to what I, not the world, should do AND I asked Him what was the goal of those in power. On both questions He gave me answers that have since proven to be correct. I haven’t shared those answers on this forum, by the way. Many months later I’ve heard highly educated scientists echo what God had said to me.

Each one ought to be convinced in his own mind what he/she ought to do and stand on that decision despite lies told about them or derision. This is easiest to do if you have developed the life long pattern of hearing and obeying. If you’ve only listen to people, you’ll be tossed about.

Standing on His directions to you is better but it is sometimes lonely.

 

[God Is My Judge]

Not disparaging your faith; just suggesting that maybe it might be a good idea to model yourself to the things Jesus is telling you. I think Matthew 22:37 would be a good place to start.

If you support abortion, one of us does. And no, vaccines don't use aborted babies. When you start making claims like that, you make it harder for pro-life people. Try to avoid those sorts of things.

I think you probably need to consider that it's not consistent with TOS to question the faith of others. I won't report you, but someone else might. Be careful, um?

The funny thing is, Christ put into question many people's faith. If question is not allowed then what's the point of proof? No what I think about such a rule, it is to protect wolves in sheep's clothing. Can't call out people who simply are using the title Christian to devour Christian doctrine and replace it with weak, false doctrine. Oh, and I don't take advice from those who are cool with abortion. And when you start denying the admission of Big Pharma that the shots were developed in cloned fetal tissue of aborted babies, you need to hang it up and stop preaching to people. At least be informed and then defend the shots and Big Pharma. Only cowards lie. Own it like you mean it. Abortion laddened, just sayin.

 

[Barbarian]

Not disparaging your faith; just suggesting that maybe it might be a good idea to model yourself to the things Jesus is telling you. I think Matthew 22:37 would be a good place to start.


If you support abortion, one of us does. And no, vaccines don't use aborted babies. When you start making claims like that, you make it harder for pro-life people. Try to avoid those sorts of things.


I think you probably need to consider that it's not consistent with TOS to question the faith of others. I won't report you, but someone else might. Be careful, um?

The funny thing is, Christ put into question many people's faith.

My rule of thumb is, "I'm not God." So I don't try to be. Only God knows for sure if you are a Christian. And I'm comfortable leaving that judgement to Him.

Can't call out people who simply are using the title Christian to devour Christian doctrine and replace it with weak, false doctrine.

Again, you should listen to him. He told you how to know. Just do that.

Oh, and I don't take advice from those who are cool with abortion.

Maybe you should just take advice from Jesus. Works for me.

And when you start denying the admission of Big Pharma that the shots were developed in cloned fetal tissue of aborted babies

Actually...
Most of the COVID-19 vaccines in development do not use human cell lines in their production. For example, Pfizer and Moderna use mRNA technology.

An mRNA vaccine is a new type of synthetic vaccine. As Pfizer explains, mRNA vaccines are made from a DNA template in a lab, rather than the traditional method of being made in cells. The vaccine is then synthetically produced.

The Moderna vaccine is also synthetic. Moderna began by designing a gene sequence on a computer. Damian Garde explains how Chinese scientists, after isolating the virus from patients, posted the genetic sequence for COVID-19 online. Moderna and BioNtech used software to tell them “what chemicals to put together and in what order”.

The COVID-19 vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca in collaboration with Oxford University has generated the most debate.

In November 2020, it was widely claimed on social media, including this Facebook post with over 160,000 views, that the AstraZeneca vaccine contains MRC-5 cells from lung tissue of a male fetus which was aborted in the 1960s.

This specific claim has been fact checked by Associated Press, Full Fact, Politifact, Reuters and Snopes and found to be false. However, the MRC-5 cell line was used in the preclinical testing of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

COVID-19 vaccines and aborted fetuses - FactCheckNI

UPDATE: This article was updated on 27 July 2021, in response to a query about whether an mRNA vaccine by CureVac uses fetal cell lines in any stage of its development. It does not. This article was previously updated on 2 February 2021 to explain about the use of MRC-5 and HEK 293 cell lines...

factcheckni.org

God is truth. You honor and glorify Him when you tell the truth.

At least be informed and tell the truth about this.

Only cowards lie. Own it like you mean it. Abortion laddened, just sayin.

I won't call you a coward or a liar. But I will say you are terribly misinformed and you are not serving God by promoting lies, even if you aren't doing it intentionally.

 

[Barbarian]

In any difficult decision, the wise man thinks AND asks God what he should do. Then the Christian, only ones able to hear His voice, do as He says.

That's pretty good advice. We should be sure the voice comes from God. He gave us some instructions on how to be sure about that.

 

[Barbarian]

The percentage of those positive who died was 1% and the average age 71 years old.

It was less than 1 percent of Americans who died. About 0.3 percent. But about 1 percent of the aged died.

I wonder how many 71+ Americans die each year.

A lot more in the last few years:

New data shows COVID greatly increased deaths for the elderly in 2020​

New data shows COVID greatly increased deaths for the elderly in 2020

New data reinforces how devastating COVID-19 was for older people last year.

www.fox4now.com

 

[God Is My Judge]

Not disparaging your faith; just suggesting that maybe it might be a good idea to model yourself to the things Jesus is telling you. I think Matthew 22:37 would be a good place to start.


If you support abortion, one of us does. And no, vaccines don't use aborted babies. When you start making claims like that, you make it harder for pro-life people. Try to avoid those sorts of things.


I think you probably need to consider that it's not consistent with TOS to question the faith of others. I won't report you, but someone else might. Be careful, um?


My rule of thumb is, "I'm not God." So I don't try to be. Only God knows for sure if you are a Christian. And I'm comfortable leaving that judgement to Him.


Again, you should listen to him. He told you how to know. Just do that.

Maybe you should just take advice from Jesus. Works for me.


Actually...
Most of the COVID-19 vaccines in development do not use human cell lines in their production. For example, Pfizer and Moderna use mRNA technology.

An mRNA vaccine is a new type of synthetic vaccine. As Pfizer explains, mRNA vaccines are made from a DNA template in a lab, rather than the traditional method of being made in cells. The vaccine is then synthetically produced.

The Moderna vaccine is also synthetic. Moderna began by designing a gene sequence on a computer. Damian Garde explains how Chinese scientists, after isolating the virus from patients, posted the genetic sequence for COVID-19 online. Moderna and BioNtech used software to tell them “what chemicals to put together and in what order”.

The COVID-19 vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca in collaboration with Oxford University has generated the most debate.

In November 2020, it was widely claimed on social media, including this Facebook post with over 160,000 views, that the AstraZeneca vaccine contains MRC-5 cells from lung tissue of a male fetus which was aborted in the 1960s.

This specific claim has been fact checked by Associated Press, Full Fact, Politifact, Reuters and Snopes and found to be false. However, the MRC-5 cell line was used in the preclinical testing of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

COVID-19 vaccines and aborted fetuses - FactCheckNI

UPDATE: This article was updated on 27 July 2021, in response to a query about whether an mRNA vaccine by CureVac uses fetal cell lines in any stage of its development. It does not. This article was previously updated on 2 February 2021 to explain about the use of MRC-5 and HEK 293 cell lines...

factcheckni.org

God is truth. You honor and glorify Him when you tell the truth.

At least be informed and tell the truth about this.


I won't call you a coward or a liar. But I will say you are terribly misinformed and you are not serving God by promoting lies, even if you aren't doing it intentionally.

No not misinformed. Just depends on who you get your facts from. You go to the very system that is owned by those with a nonhumane agenda and you take comfort in that.

 

[Barbarian]

No not misinformed. Just depends on who you get your facts from.

No. There is an objective truth. Reality can't just be whatever you want it to be. We have to live with what is.

There are no "alternative facts." There are just things that are true, and things that are not true. Remember that God is truth, and act accordingly.

 

[God Is My Judge]

The obvious is known to people who use their brains. Probably the red herring in the Covid-19 narrative is the complete banning of opposing views from the other side of the coin. That is not scientific, it is coercion. Only fear of being exposed would seek to silence doctors with the same credentials as Fauci and doctors on board with the tierd down talking points. The flip side of the coin of the same field is silenced but Bill Gates, with no credentials or degrees in science and medicine is pioneering and devising protocols for medical science. He is allowed to give advice, rules and directives on matters he is not qualified in. Yeah ok! Nothing going on there.



I love how, after the fact- 3 billion people got fully shot up, news outlets like Fox News started letting the counter side speak their case and share their facts concering Covid-19 treatments and the shots. No agenda there! The thief did
sow.

Banned from YouTube: Dr. Simone Gold shares the truth about the COVID-19 vaccines

Dr. Simone Gold is one of the Frontline Doctors who has been speaking the truth about COVID-19, the treatment options such as hydroxychloroquine, and the newly released vaccines. This video was just p

rumble.com

 

[God Is My Judge]

Here Barbarian, a spiritual view on the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares. Consider it the New Song ( eternal gospel perspective) a complete narrative.

And The Thief Sowed Weeds:
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Matthew 13: 24-29

The Parable of the Weeds
24Jesus put before them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and slipped away. 26When the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the weeds also appeared.
27The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
28‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
So, the servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
29‘No,’ he said, ‘if you pull the weeds now, you might uproot the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time, I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat into my barn.’ ”

I have heard many interpretations of this over the years. Some interpretations have been long standing as given respect for its scholarly insights. I see this differently, maybe someone else sees it as I will share how I see it.

: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. I would say this good man is Christ. He, (as Son of Man) who brought to us the kingdom of heaven- access to that is, making heirs. We have sprung up across the globe through the preaching of the Good News- Spreading the Holy Word of God so forth and so on. Hence, the good seed and we are the kingdom of heaven on earth continuing the spreading.

25But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and slipped away. 26When the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the weeds also appeared.

Throughout Christian history there have been those who have fallen asleep and bad doctrine was sown in. Not only bad doctrine, as we move forward into today, simply all kinds of false teaching- evil knowledge has corrupted mankind, now to the point of right down to the genome. Only a few, these days, are awake and recognize the bad doctrine that has been sown throughout history since Christianity's first inception. It began with false doctrine produced by wolves in sheep's clothing that has been accepted as good, among churches. With that chipping away of men's discernment then came worse beliefs. Atheistic grown beliefs like the Theory of Evolution from Satan's pseudo- science. It has replaced the actual meaning of the inner workings of God's creation. Enter the BIG SLEEP! Today those false beliefs have given way to a great number of people falling asleep, bringing the completed sowing of the deceptive seed with the corruption of the Human DNA.

The whole of this parable deals with the whole of the matter. Hence, a parable concerning a passage of time -right up to the harvest. We are at the finality of what the thief-Satan, intended. It is a saga that has been playing out since the beginning in the Garden of Eden, to the Watchers, to the Nephilim- corruption even unto DNA and soul. But for a while, with the good seed (THE WORD OF GOD), corruption was put at bay.

When Christianity reigned supreme in the consciousness of men, it provided salt to stave off corruption and gave a certain amount of protection from falling asleep. Men had protection from the wiles of Satan. Not that Satan did not attack, men just showed fidelity to the faith and therefore, were protected. As that has gradually been chipped away and through sleep, the rot has set in. We have entered the end of the age, where MOST men have fallen away and went to sleep on Christ. Hence, the falling away, it equals-fallen asleep. Therefore, perfect prey for the devil.

Since the harvest is at the end of the age, it deals with those who are living at the end of the age. It is clear, it is the corrupt beliefs which have been sown throughout history that men cling to. Those who adhere to those corrupt beliefs have also allowed to be sown in them, the weeds of the thief- into their DNA. This is how the separating begins. That once human- is a now a tare growing alongside the wheat -NONCORRUPT human. They look alike =being human looking but have drunk the Kool-Aid. Belief in the BIG LIE - pseudo science and its Theory of Evolution, has lulled them to sleep.

25But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and slipped away. 26When the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the weeds also appeared.

With the Covid-19 agenda and the shots which followed, people will be intermarrying with those with corrupt genomes and will give rise to further weeds- Human 2.0 as the Elites of Satan call them, Nephilim as God calls them.

Luke 17:26
26Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man: 27People were eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.…

Now clearly, the Lord has no problem with people marrying. The point is, Christ is speaking to an audience knowledgeable in what was actually taking place during the times of Noah. People were marrying and intermarrying with Nephilim and fallen angels. You lay with a Nephilim you are laying with a fallen angel's offspring. The DNA of all humans -except eight, were corrupted, as were most animals. That is why God only preserved what was not corrupted by the fallen angels and Nephilim. Their corruption spreads fast like weeds. Hence, why the parable states weeds.

Today, through science, the fallen angels have managed to, once again, sow their seed among mankind. In the name of science by way of the Covid-19 agenda, man has unwittingly succumbed to the fallen angel agenda. The Elites know it, because they succumbed to it first. What they call extraterrestrial every culture on the planet called (gods from the stars and/or fallen angels). The only difference is, the ancient people of the ONE TRUE GOD-known as Hebrews, they didn't worship them. Though the fallen angels and their Nephilim did gain the majority which resulted in only eight- Noah and his family not falling prey to it, it was only by them that all of humanity would be reestablished. That is what will happen today, only those who stand on the Word of God will remain pure bloods- in essence.

Unfortunately, there were Nephilim then and after the flood. Not all the Nephilim were destroyed. With the flood gates of heaven and the deep bursting open, some Nephilim escaped to space, where they built their nest among the stars, to only return again after the flood.
Genesis 6:4
4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days— and afterward as well — when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.

After the earth was repopulated, Nephilim returned to the earth and had relations with the daughters of men. Concerning the Israelites, the way this seed- (Nephilim genetic code) entered among Jews was by way of Esau. The Lineage of Abraham is preserved in Jacob because Jacob did NOT marry of the Canaanites, which Abraham was told not to marry of. Esau did. Abraham's offspring is preserved from the Nephilim seed through Jacob. Mary- Christ's mother, is TRULY a descendant of Abraham because she is a direct descendant of Jacob NOT ESAU. Esau lost the right to be the lineage of Christ because he had NO regard for his birthright and sold it for some "Red Stew". This is an 'architype' and allegory for something that would happen in the future. The Hebraic birthright (blessing) is given by the patriarch and is actually from God -as all blessings are. That is why God says: "Jacob I loved, Esau I hated."

Jacob told in Genesis 28:1-2
1So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed him. “Do not take a wife from the Canaanite women,” he commanded. 2“Go at once to Paddan-aram, to the house of your mother’s father Bethuel, and take a wife from among the daughters of Laban, your mother’s brother.…
Isaac , Abraham's son, was reiterating what Abraham was told and told him.
CONTINUED.........

 

[God Is My Judge]

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Esau on the other hand did the opposite:
Esau's Mixed Marriage

Genesis 26:34&35 “When Esau was forty years old, he married Judith daughter of Beeri the Hittites, and also Basemath daughter of Elon the Hittite. They were a source of grief to Isaac and Rebekah.”

Many nit wits think God did not want mix marriage, meaning races, THAT IS NOT TRUE. Edomites who think themselves Jews, love to foment race wars. Anyways, Moses was married to a woman from Cush , SHE WAS A BLACK WOMAN. Not to mention Makeda the Queen of Sheba, Solomon's greatest love. Also, clearly, we come from the same two people (Adam and Eve) who had the genetic makeup to produce people of all different shades and features. Different cultures would come with what took place at the Tower of Bable.

When the earth was repopulated after the flood, it is also clear that Noah's sons and their wives were of different shades and features. The colors of the people of earth were determined by them. Some things should be obvious

. Read : (Christianity The White Man's Religion??? ). Joseph's Coat of Many Colors also shows all the races would be brought back to God through the Christ who Joseph was an architype of. So, it is clear, mixing races is not the issue. Worshipping the One true God is and obeying Him. That would mean staying away from breeding with Nephilim !

The Land of Canaan had Nephilim , the Hittites who occupied that land had Nephilim blood. Even though the earth was flooded and all on earth died except the eight in the Ark, the scriptures are clear that there were Nephilim afterwards.

Genesis 6:4 reads as follows: The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

So, the question is how were they here again after the flood? Well let's deduce with scripture......they could NOT have gone into the earth for the fountains of the deep too broke forth , they would have drowned.
Genesis 7:11

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month, all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.
Genesis 7:12

And the rain fell upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

And we are clearly told EVERY LIVING THING with the breath of life in the nostrils, NOT IN THE ARK died!
The Duration of the Flood

…22Of all that had been on dry land, everything that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23And every living thing on the face of the earth was destroyed— man and livestock, crawling creatures and birds of the air; they were blotted out from the earth, and only Noah remained, and those with him in the ark. 24And the waters prevailed upon the earth for 150 days.…

Could it be the angels, who were not of the 200 Watchers imprisoned (Book of Enoch), decided to follow suit and again people followed it and produced more Nephilim? Or this:
“And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.’ “Numbers 13:33 (The Israel Bible™)

It is clear, the Nephilim , the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim made more Nephilim. His descendants are mentioned in narratives concerning the conquest of Canaan by the Israelites. According to the Book of Numbers, Anak was a forefather of the Anakim. The Bible describes them as very tall descendants of the Nephilim.

So, did some Nephilim make their nest amongst the stars? I say yes! And this is where the extraterrestrial deception of today comes from. The ancient pagan cultures called the fallen angels (the gods from the stars). Therefore, their offspring knew that there was refuge from the flood in space.

It is true " we are not alone in the universe". All the ancient cultures, pagan and otherwise ( The Elect of God), knew of these beings and have evidence of space travel in their ancient writings. However, things are not as the secret societies and Kabbalah practitioners would have all believe. It is as the Lord said it happened. Even the ancient cultures believe them to be spiritual forces, not extraterrestrial- meaning beyond our terrestrial plain. That would indicate they are created and are not God as Pseudo- science would have us believe.

Within the field of science, there is a group, that is teaching human beings come from extraterrestrials through seeding. This is the great deception. They will soon disclose that evolution is being completed by way of these extraterrestrial beings who have added to the human genome what was missing and explains the gap of apes not evolving anymore. They believe, it was by extraterrestrial seeding that the past primates evolved then stopped. Yeah, for real! That is how they will explain the gaps in their Theory of Evolution. Watch! It's the last deception. Those who are for the lie- (The Theory of Evolution) will accept it hook line and sinker. It is simply a reinventing of what was, for there is nothing new under the sun.

Ecclesiastes 1:
8All things are wearisome,

more than one can describe;
the eye is not satisfied with seeing,
nor the ear content with hearing.
9What has been, will be again,
and what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
10Is there a case where one can say,
“Look, this is new”?
It has already existed
in the ages before us.
11There is no remembrance
of those who came before,
and those yet to come will not be remembered
by those who follow after.

POINT: All this alien, extraterrestrial, UFO smack is not new nor is the HUMAN 2.0 as the Elites call it. What took place thousands of years before us has simply been reinvented and rebranded. It is simply given a different name other than- (fallen angel, god's from the stars, Nephilim).

Space travel was known to ancient prophets like Enoch and Jasher not to mention all the ancient pagan cultures who embraced all the fallen angel garbage as good, as do the pagans today. Even the prophet Obadiah knew about it and knew about Esau's offspring- who have the Nephilim blood line and will be completely destroyed. They call themselves Jews but are not but are the synagogue of Satan. Esau contributed nothing genetically to the 12 Tribes of Israel, nothing, zero, zilch! Esau does, however, influence the 12 Tribes through his rabbis and Kabbalah practitioners of his lineage. And they got Jacob to serve up the Red Stew. The Red Stew is a symbol of a non-kosher mark that Esau would be responsible for concerning the 12 Tribes of Israel and those who of the gentile nations who will not be saved. The destruction of Edom- the lineage of, called- Red, will be destroyed as will those who took their Red Stew of all nations. Those with the name of Red Sheild are part of it and actually were given satan's own throne, power and authority. It is from them that the Covid-19 agenda came with the culling and genetic corruption of all who ate the Red Stew. That family is over the country called Israel and their rabbis have influenced Jacob to partake in serving it up and even receiving the corrupt abomination of desolation in their genome. That is why it is said only a remnant of Israel will be saved.
Romans 9:27
27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the Israelites is like the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved. 28For the Lord will carry out His sentence on the earth thoroughly and decisively.”…

Only a 144,000 out of the 12 Tribes of Israel will be saved.
Rev.7
144,000 Sealed
1After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back its four winds so that no wind would blow on land or sea or on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, with the seal of the living God. And he called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3“Do not harm the land or sea or trees until we have sealed the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
4And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel:
5From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
and from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

Continued.....

 

[God Is My Judge]

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Concerning this: Romans 11:25-27
All Israel Shall Be Saved
25I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will remove godlessness from Jacob. 27And this is My covenant with them when I take away their sins.”…
Is Romans 1125-27 contradicting Romans 9:27
27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the Israelites is like the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved. 28For the Lord will carry out His sentence on the earth thoroughly and decisively.”…
NOPE!
That is why you need the Holy Spirit to interpret scripture. Romans 11 deals with the whole house of ISRAEL. That is what God's people are called and, in this case, includes called out Gentiles. Once ingrafted, the Gentile is a Hebrew= Traversed one. They have come from one side of things to the other. Like Abraham, who was the first to be called a Hebrew. Before that there was no mention of Hebrew this or that. God called Abraham a Hebrew, what He was considered before that is only known to God. What is for sure is not only the RC Canon, and Protestant Canon and Eastern Orthodox Canon not only makes mention Jasher mentions Abram/Abraham having to leave his father's house and country because he was a heathen or pagan. Which is interesting because Gentile means heathen. God is good! The Ethiopic Canon has the complete Book of Jasher.

Concerning The 12 Tribes of Israel, only a remnant will be saved as is clear in Isaiah which Roman 9:27 states. So, the remnant of the 12 Tribes of Israel will be saved and that is only 144,000 as will only a 144,000 of out of Gentile nations too be saved and Rev.14 speaks of them. There we have the completed house of Israel - Israel means- God Prevails. And in these two called out groups is the completion of the number of firstfruits and all the House of Israel who will be saved.
The Destruction of Edom Obadiah 1:4

The Destruction of Edom

1This is the vision of Obadiah:
This is what the Lord GOD says about Edom—
We have heard a message from the LORD;
an envoy has been sent among the nations
to say, “Rise up,
and let us go to battle against her!”—
2“Behold, I will make you small among the nations;
you will be deeply despised.
3The pride of your heart has deceived you,
O dwellers in the clefts of the rocks
whose habitation is the heights,
who say in your heart,
‘Who can bring me down to the ground?’
4Though you soar like the eagle
and make your nest among the stars,
even from there I will bring you down,”
declares the LORD. ( This has to do with space travel and building among the stars- Elon musk is an Edomite his star link is garbage, his association with the Red Sheild as with all Edomites is sealed. The Rothschilds own or are over Jacob and the country named after him -Israel. Many of the 12 Tribes of Israel will be destroyed with the Edomites, only 144,000 of Jacob will be saved.)

5“If thieves came to you,
if robbers by night—
oh, how you will be ruined—
would they not steal only what they wanted?
If grape gatherers came to you,
would they not leave some gleanings?
6But how Esau will be pillaged,
his hidden treasures sought out!
7All the men allied with you
will drive you to the border;
the men at peace with you
will deceive and overpower you.
Those who eat your bread
will set a trap for you
without your awareness of it.
8In that day, declares the LORD,
will I not destroy the wise men of Edom
and the men of understanding
in the mountains of Esau?
9Then your mighty men, O Teman,
will be terrified,
so that everyone in the mountains of Esau
will be cut down in the slaughter.
10Because of the violence against your brother Jacob,
you will be covered with shame
and cut off forever.
11On the day you stood aloof
while strangers carried off his wealth
and foreigners entered his gate
and cast lots for Jerusalem,
you were just like one of them.
12But you should not gloat in that day,
your brother’s day of misfortune,
nor rejoice over the people of Judah
in the day of their destruction,
nor boast proudly
in the day of their distress.
13You should not enter the gate of My people
in the day of their disaster,
nor gloat over their affliction
in the day of their disaster,
nor loot their wealth
in the day of their disaster.
14Nor should you stand at the crossroads
to cut off their fugitives,
nor deliver up their survivors
in the day of their distress.
The Deliverance of Israel
15For the Day of the LORD is near
for all the nations.
As you have done, it will be done to you;
your recompense will return upon your own head.
16For as you drank on My holy mountain,
so all the nations will drink continually.
They will drink and gulp it down;
they will be as if they had never existed.
17But on Mount Zion there will be deliverance,
and it will be holy,
and the house of Jacob
will reclaim their possession.
18Then the house of Jacob will be a blazing fire,
and the house of Joseph a burning flame;
but the house of Esau will be stubble—
Jacob will set it ablaze and consume it.
Therefore, no survivor will remain
from the house of Esau.”
For the LORD has spoken.
19Those from the Negev will possess the mountains of Esau;
those from the foothills will possess the land of the Philistines.
They will occupy the fields of Ephraim and Samaria,
and Benjamin will possess Gilead.
20And the exiles of this host of the Israelites
will possess the land of the Canaanites as far as Zarephath;
and the exiles from Jerusalem who are in Sepharad
will possess the cities of the Negev.
21The deliverers will ascend Mount Zion
to rule over the mountains of Esau.
And the kingdom will belong to the LORD.

So, it is clear Edom will not even be safe among the stars even if they seek refuge there like their Nephilim forefathers.

…3The pride of your heart has deceived you—O dwellers in the clefts of the rocks whose habitation is the heights, who say in your heart, ‘Who can bring me down to the ground?’ 4Though you soar like the eagle and make your( nest among the stars), even from there I will bring you down,” declares the LORD. 5“If thieves came to you, if robbers by night—oh, how you will be ruined—would they not steal only what they wanted? If grape pickers came to you, would they not leave some gleanings?…

This is about the destruction of Edom, not the land because the land still is, but a people who are of the lineage of Esau . Esau was called Edom=Red after eating the "Red Stew" . His offspring are the Edomites who wish they were Jews but are not. For today - this minority who call themselves "Jews" ( air quotes) are of the lineage of Esau. But they have control of the majority- Money(banks), corporations, governments, oil, food, Pharmeceutical Companies, medicine, JACOB and many of the gentile's kings and politicians and principalities. They are responsible for the Covid-19 agenda and the shots! They produced the Mark of the Beast. The mark will come out of Israel as Jacob represents -(Israel ) in the biblical account of the Red Stew. Not that the remnant of Jacob will give the Mark, but out of Israel the country, which is named after the biblical Jacob, and (not Jacob Rothschild), the mark will come. God hates those of the lineage of Esau because it has a Nephilim Marker on the genome because of Esau's disregard for the covenant blessing. Esau was no Nephilim , he was hated by God for rejecting his birthright and mixing the lineage of Abraham with Nephilim women.

After the flood the Nephilim returned. For it is clear the Nephilim made more Nephilim , not angels made more Nephilim. We know the sentence of the angels who did do this, they were imprisoned according to our beloved prophet Enoch. The same sentence would befall the others who were cast down with Lucifer, for God shows no partiality concerning the punishment of this transgression by some angles.

The seed has been sown and they shall grow together until the harvest.

Were there signs on earth and the heavens pointing to this agenda before it happened? YES! Lying signs and wonders. And wouldn't you know, the Kabbalah practitioners teach it in their "mystery schools" as something Truthful to be embraced.

2 Thessalonians: 2:
The Man of Lawlessness

…8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and annihilate by the majesty of His arrival. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and FALSE wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.…

2Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, 12in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.…

 

[God Is My Judge]

So, there you have it! The only questions left are, can science alter the human genome by way of so-called vaccines? Can a book written over five thousand years ago be relevant? Can you argue against Enoch? Can you tell Christ genetic manipulation and alteration cannot be done? Is anyone really going to call Christ and His prophets liars when they told it all to us before it happened? I think not! It is good to question a person's salvation Barbarian, Christians are supposed to. I follow the Laws of God, not rules of men.
1 John 4:1-2
Testing the Spirits
1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you will know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,…

For all you gurus 'of science, I will give proof on how vaccines and viral vectors can be used to alter DNA. It may not be what you want to hear though and will be called "not factual". Problem is, it is factual. Oh! and did you know, sometimes low levels of radiation allow for the mutation to go more quickly? Cest la vie!

 

[JLB]

that are placed in the body to produce immunity.

Therefore it's not a vaccine since it certainly doesn't produce immunity.

 

[Barbarian]

No you hold no objective truth . For something to be called an " objective" truth, two things must be weighed in the balance.

That's the problem. You've only follow the anti-vaxxer propaganda. I've spent a lot of time on both the anti-vaxxer stories, and the research literature. Because you don't read the literature, you're left with nothing but the propaganda.

Probably the red herring in the Covid-19 narrative is the complete banning of opposing views from the other side of the coin.

Apparently, you aren't reading the social media or hearing far-right politicians. They are spreading all sorts of hoaxes. We've only debunked a few of them many. Remember, it's not censorship if a private news outlet doesn't want to carry your propaganda. You have the right to spread it, but you don't have the right to insist others do it for you.

'Barbarian' is a befitting signature.

How I got that is kinda interesting. I was on a board, and a rather aggressive atheist told me that I had no idea how "barbaric" Christianity is. I said, "just call me the barbarian, then." He wasn't amused, but it caught on. Turns out, barbarians were among the first followers of Jesus after the Resurrection.

The only questions left are, can science alter the human genome by way of so-called vaccines?

Not any existing now. You see, mRNA only works one-way. It's produced by DNA, but can't change DNA in human cells. It doesn't even to into the nucleus. It's picked up by a ribosome that translates it into a protein, after which the mRNA comes apart and no longer functions.

For all you gurus 'of science, I will give proof on how vaccines and viral vectors can be used to alter DNA. It may not be what you want to hear though and will be called "not factual".

Well, that should be interesting. Tell us about it. Since we're talking about mRNA we'll need to see how mRNA vaccines change the human genome. What do you have?

Oh! and did you know, sometimes low levels of radiation allow for the mutation to go more quickly?

No. Radiation can induce mutations, but they all happen pretty much instantaneously. Perhaps you heard that radiation can increase the rate of mutations. Don't forget to show us how mRNA vaccines can alter DNA in humans.

 

[Northman]

For all you gurus 'of science

I wouldn't bother. You aren't going to find any of those types on here. What you will find are those that relay information and do absolutely no work of their own. After my own recent experiment in a planned conversation to do with cell towers, I can tell you that it's always about narrative, narrative, narrative. It's religion, plain and simple.

 

[God Is My Judge]

That's the problem. You've only follow the anti-vaxxer propaganda. I've spent a lot of time on both the anti-vaxxer stories, and the research literature. Because you don't read the literature, you're left with nothing but the propaganda.


Apparently, you aren't reading the social media or hearing far-right politicians. They are spreading all sorts of hoaxes. We've only debunked a few of them many. Remember, it's not censorship if a private news outlet doesn't want to carry your propaganda. You have the right to spread it, but you don't have the right to insist others do it for you.


How I got that is kinda interesting. I was on a board, and a rather aggressive atheist told me that I had no idea how "barbaric" Christianity is. I said, "just call me the barbarian, then." He wasn't amused, but it caught on. Turns out, barbarians were among the first followers of Jesus after the Resurrection.


Not any existing now. You see, mRNA only works one-way. It's produced by DNA, but can't change DNA in human cells. It doesn't even to into the nucleus. It's picked up by a ribosome that translates it into a protein, after which the mRNA comes apart and no longer functions.


Well, that should be interesting. Tell us about it. Since we're talking about mRNA we'll need to see how mRNA vaccines change the human genome. What do you have?


No. Radiation can induce mutations, but they all happen pretty much instantaneously. Perhaps you heard that radiation can increase the rate of mutations. Don't forget to show us how mRNA vaccines can alter DNA in humans.

Lol! Who do you get your cookies from?

 

[Barbarian]

Therefore it's not a vaccine since it certainly doesn't produce immunity.

That's already settled...

What are mRNA vaccines and how do they work?: MedlinePlus Genetics

mRNA vaccines use a piece of mRNA that corresponds to a protein on a virus. Vaccines for COVID-19 are the only mRNA vaccines authorized or approved by the FDA.

medlineplus.gov

They produce immunity by inducing the cell's ribosomes to produce spike proteins. The body's B lymphocytes then produce antibodies against spike proteins. Should COVID-19 virus then enter the body, the antibodies recognize the proteins and attack the viruses. This is why the hospitalization and death rates for unvaccinated people are so much higher than for vaccinated people. Should we show that again?

Rates of COVID-19 cases were lowest among fully vaccinated persons with a booster dose, compared with fully vaccinated persons without a booster dose, and much lower than rates among unvaccinated persons during October–November (25.0, 87.7, and 347.8 per 100,000 population, respectively) and December 2021 (148.6, 254.8, and 725.6 per 100,000 population, respectively) (Table 2). Similar trends were noted for differences in the mortality rates among these three groups (0.1, 0.6, and 7.8 per 100,000 population, respectively) during October–November. Age-standardized case IRRs among unvaccinated persons compared with fully vaccinated persons with a booster dose declined from 13.9 during October–November to 4.9 during December, representing potential decreases in crude VE for infection from 93% to 80%, respectively. Comparing unvaccinated persons with fully vaccinated persons without a booster dose, age-standardized case IRRs during October–November and December were 4.0 and 2.8 respectively, representing decreases in VE from 75% to 64%. During October–November, age-standardized IRRs for deaths among unvaccinated persons were 53.2 compared with those in fully vaccinated persons with a booster dose and 12.7 compared with persons without a booster dose; these results represented crude VE against death of 98% and 92%, respectively. Protection improved among persons who received a booster dose compared with not receiving a booster, regardless of primary series vaccine product type. Booster doses provided the largest gains in protection among persons aged ≥65 years followed by persons aged 50–64 years when compared with those aged 18–49 years.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm

From the UK:
Unvaccinated people accounted for a higher proportion of patients admitted to critical care with confirmed COVID-19 than of the population aged over 18 years. The proportion of critical care patients with confirmed COVID-19 who are unvaccinated has fallen from nearly three-quarters (74%) in May 2021 to just over a quarter (27%) in February 2022. However, this is a result of more people becoming vaccinated. Unvaccinated people have consistently accounted for a higher proportion of critical care patients than in the general population. This was 3 times higher in February 2022 and peaked at almost 7 times higher in December 2021.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics

www.ons.gov.uk

The vaccine is very good at preventing infection, and it's extraordinarily good at preventing serious illness or death.

 

[Barbarian]

I wouldn't bother. You aren't going to find any of those types on here. What you will find are those that relay information and do absolutely no work of their own.

I have two degrees in the field, and operated an allergy/immunology unit for the AF. Your credentials?

It's religion, plain and simple.

For the anti-vaxxers it is. Otherwise, it's the science that matters.