His Elect !

[savedbygrace57]

Election in Christ


Now this Election in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4, where He existed as the Elect Head of the Church, His Body, before all things Col 1:17-18

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

It is then in Him, in the beginning before anything was made by Him, in Him was Life Jn 1:1-4

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And which life was Eternal Life 1 Jn 1:2;5:11

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us )

1 Jn 5:11


11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Now being Chosen in the Son Eph 1:4, they were Chosen in to Eternal Life, hence it was given to the them then in the Son, its that Grace given them in Christ before the World Began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Peter calls it the Grace of Life 1 Pet 3:7

Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
The syric version renders the phrase " Grace of Life" as " The Gift of Eternal Life !

The phrase also could read as Heirs of Eternal Life Titus 3:7

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

 

[savedbygrace57]

More on the Elect !

Now all the Elect of God, who died to God in Adam, and became alienated from the life of God as Per Eph 4:18

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

This blindness is the same as here 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

And they are dead in trespasses and sins, but yet because Christ has shed His Blood for them, washed them from their sins, having satisfied for them all of God's Law and Justice, they are quickened to life by Christ with that Eternal Life they had in Christ their Head before the world began; it is then they are born again of that incorruptible seed 1 Pet 1:23, and then they are manifested as His Chosen Seed as well as the Sons of God !

 

[savedbygrace57]

For the Elect's sake !

2 Tim 2:8-10

8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

9 Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

The word Elect here is the greek word eklektos and means:

picked out, chosen

a) chosen by God,

1) to obtain salvation through Christ

Its from the root word eklegomai which means:

to pick out, choose, to pick or choose out for one's self

Its those people God has chosen for Himself !

Now Paul is saying in our passage that he basically endures all things, all the adverse circumstances he encounters in Preaching the Gospel of Vs 8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

For the Elect's Sake, God's Election of Grace, those He has reserved unto Himself Rom 11:4-5

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

BTW There was an Election of Grace in the time of Elijah as it was then in Paul's time under the New Covenant, that proves the connection of the OT Believer and the NT Believer !

This brings us to understand the supreme importance of the Truth of Eternal Election in Christ, in Preaching the Gospel. Both the Election of Grace in Elijah day as well as that in Paul's day had to be Chosen in Christ in order to be of the Election of Grace.

This Election is foundational because without it, there would be no Only Begotten Son from Everlasting, for then there would have been no Elect in Him before the Foundation Eph 1:4, then no Chosen to Salvation, for which Purpose, no need to send His Son to save His People from their sins Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

His People here are the Chosen, the Elect, The Israel of God; and so the Gospel of God finds its origin in God's Purpose of Election !

For the Gospel reveals to the Elect ones the Covenental Blessings of God to His Chosen, which Blessings are theirs according to His Choosing them in Christ before the foundation of the World Eph 1:3-4

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Which things God reveals to them by His Spirit 1 Cor 2:6-12 ! For as one has believed the True Gospel of God, they perceive that their Salvation comes to them from God's Eternal Election, and this cannot be unless Election from Eternity is a foundational theme in Gospel Preaching. For what meaneth this if not Election 2 Tim 2:19,10

Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Remember what Paul had just stated a few lines earlier in Vs 10 !

All the Spiritual Blessings one is given in time, such as New Birth, Faith, and Repentance, are due because of Election or having been Chosen in Him, their Covenant Head before the foundation.

 

[savedbygrace57]

What is meant ?

What is meant by being chosen in Christ before the foundation ? Its not just something to say because it sounds good, but its an actual truth revealed in scripture Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Remember what Paul writes of Christ as being the Head of the Body, the Church, who is the beginning ? Col 1:17-18

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


So being chosen in Him before the foundation means that we [the chosen] were chosen in Christ , then as the members of His Body before all things.

 

[Messenger]

2 Thess 2:13 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: That they were Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the World Eph 1:4 ! Thats why Paul says they were bound to give Thanks to God for them. Not their freewill choice or decision as the antichrist followers would have us believe. That they are redeemed by the precious blood of Christ because they are Elect 1 Pet 1:2,18,19

God is Sovereign. He does what He pleases with whomever He wills, whether or not those whom He created from mere dust can comprehend the truth of His Word or not. (John 9:39-41)

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

No one can believe in a way that leads to salvation except it be given him of God Himself (John 3:27). If one thinks in his mind that he has the freewill to believe his way into becoming saved, it becomes obvious that his spiritual understanding of the the whole Word of God is lacking. For coming to Truth entails comparing scripture with scripture (1 Corinthians 2:13); not agreeing with only some verses that are comfortable; but we must reconcile all of scripture. Believing unto salvation is all the work of God. The Word of God says that no one has the ability to believe on Christ in a way that results in salvation of the soul unless God gives it to him (2 Timothy 2:25; John 3:27). For this kind of believing can only be accomplished by the working of His mighty power (Ephesians 1:19, 3:7). Salvation has nothing to do with man's "freewill", but what God wills; and He has already chosen and predestined all those He planned to save; those who are to receive the inheritance (Ephesians 1:3-11; 1 Peter 1:4).

"This is the work of God, that you believe on Him whom He hath sent" (John 6:29). And no one can repent in a way that pleases God unless it has been given to him by God! (2 Timothy 2:25; John 3:27)!

TGBTG!

 

[Grappler]

Matt 24:31

31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Does God have a elect people ? There is one scripture that says God's own elect. Lk 18:7

7And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

Is the fact that God has an election a theory of a man name calvin, or is it a scriptural truth ? I believe those who in unbelief and disdain, that shrug off election and other similar truth's of scripture as that of being the mere opinion of a man, will have much to answer for in the day of Judgment, which is not far away.

I will by God's Grace provide scriptural proof that election is the word of God, in that God, before the world began, made a distinction, a election among His creature man, choosing who would be objects of His special and peculiar Love and Favor. To begin lets look at a few verses of scripture.

Deut 7:6; Ps 135:4; Isa 41:8-9

Deut 7:6

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

What is truly amazing, is that most adversaries of the blessed Truth of election, have no problem receiving this Truth here in Deut, however they accept it as being applied to a carnal, natural people, Natural Israel, ethnic jews, but they reject the ideal of it applying to a Spiritual People, of all different ethnicities, having been Chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

I have news for you, the Chosen in Deut 7:6 are the same exact Chosen in Eph 1:4.

The Love God Loved them with in Deut 7:7

7The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

This is the same Love spoken of in Eph 1:4

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

God does not have different Love, its always grounded in His elective purpose in Christ Jesus per Rom 8:39

39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Now what makes us believe that this Love in Rom 8:39 is any different from the Love of God spoken of in Deut 7:7 ?

There is no difference, its the same Love, for the same People, just that in Rom the Love is found out to be of a wider dimension than first revealed in Deut 7:6-7. For God so loved the World in that same manner Nicodemus. Jn 3:16. Thats Jesus point in Jn 3:16, that God had a Chosen, special, peculiar, people unto Himself, above all other People upon the Face of the earth.

James describe them here Acts 15:

13And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:

14Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

This is part of the same People God spoke to in Deut 7:6-7, but it was not known then, but they too are of the Seed of Abraham Gen 17:5

5Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

The Seed of Abraham, no matter what race or geographical location, are the Chosen or Elect of God.

I could not have posted it better myself.

 

[savedbygrace57]

messenger

No one can believe in a way that leads to salvation except it be
given him of God Himself (John
3:27).

Of a Truth Phil 1:29

29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

 

[savedbygrace57]

We will not have this man to reign over us !


Lk 19:14

But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

The natural man does not submit too the pure doctrine of Election because it does not submit to God's Sovereignty. For the natural man cries unfair, unjust is the God who shows the discriminating grace of Election to Salvation. That God purposed it for some and not others is a Sovereign prerogative. It says loud and clear that God has a right and does what He wills with His own creatures, which is Paul's point here Rom 9:11-15

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

And as vs 14 shows us the natural mans response to Election, we know this by Paul's answer:What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God?

By no means Paul says, for God has the right to have mercy and elective love on whomsoever He will [Sovereignty], meaning He did not show elective love and mercy to esau, but He did to Jacob, and this without any consideration of good or evil done by them, and that by doing so God has not wronged esau ! The natural man does not except this premise as being fair !

 

[savedbygrace57]

We will not have this man to reign over us ! 2


The same Election Principle of God's Sovereignty over His creatures is seen again in my Lords story here Matt 20:3-15

3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,

4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.

5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.

6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?

7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.

8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.

9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.

11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,

12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.

13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?

14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.

15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

And because God chose to give the same payment for labor done by those who worked much longer then the one worked much less. Its like if Two people get a job at a factory to work, and one started on Monday and Worked hard up to Friday Payday and that one is paid 150 dollars for the days worked, but another who was hired Friday Morning and worked only a eight hour shift, and at on the same day he is also paid 150 dollars for his eight hour shift of which you found out about, naturally when that is found out its reasoned to be unfair, for why should he be compensated the same as you and you worked much longer and harder than he, and the factory owner knew it. But Jesus answers in Vs 15

15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

And this Illustrates God's Sovereignty that none of by nature will submit to !

 

[ezra]

So being chosen in Him before the foundation means that we [the chosen] were chosen in Christ , then as the members of His Body before all things.

so just how is a lost person to know ahead of time if they are the elect? next i suppose all of your household is the elect..how wonderful.

 

[savedbygrace57]

So being chosen in Him before the foundation means that we [the chosen] were chosen in Christ , then as the members of His Body before all things.

so just how is a lost person to know ahead of time if they are the elect? next i suppose all of your household is the elect..how wonderful.

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

 

[ezra]

So being chosen in Him before the foundation means that we [the chosen] were chosen in Christ , then as the members of His Body before all things.

so just how is a lost person to know ahead of time if they are the elect? next i suppose all of your household is the elect..how wonderful.

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

i asked you a direct question . i asked you how a lost person is suppose to know if he is the elect .. if you don,t want to answer say so. we are not in a court of law.. if your gonna defend your belief at least give a answer .. please don,t play tip toe through the post with me

 

[savedbygrace57]

So being chosen in Him before the foundation means that we [the chosen] were chosen in Christ , then as the members of His Body before all things.

so just how is a lost person to know ahead of time if they are the elect? next i suppose all of your household is the elect..how wonderful.

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

i asked you a direct question . i asked you how a lost person is suppose to know if he is the elect .. if you don,t want to answer say so. we are not in a court of law.. if your gonna defend your belief at least give a answer .. please don,t play tip toe through the post with me

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

 

[ezra]

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

i asked you a direct question . i asked you how a lost person is suppose to know if he is the elect .. if you don,t want to answer say so. we are not in a court of law.. if your gonna defend your belief at least give a answer .. please don,t play tip toe through the post with me

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

its obvious by know you have no idea... you can stop playing copy and paste and explain my question in post 568 :amen

 

[savedbygrace57]

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

i asked you a direct question . i asked you how a lost person is suppose to know if he is the elect .. if you don,t want to answer say so. we are not in a court of law.. if your gonna defend your belief at least give a answer .. please don,t play tip toe through the post with me

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

its obvious by know you have no idea... you can stop playing copy and paste and explain my question in post 568 :amen

Did you understand the points I made in Posts 188 and 189 ! Please go over them with me !

 

[WIP]

I won't allow this to continue. Please move along.

 

[SeekHisFace]

I am unable to find your post, there are so many of them, on the "mystery" being the gospel.
I would like to add that the mystery (unrevealed truth) does not stop at the gospel alone but it goes beyond the discernment who the gospel is for. This mystery was God's plan from all eternity and it has now been carried out through Christ Jesus our Lord.


Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Eph 3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
Eph 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

I would hope and pray that you would stop and fellowship with us...take a moment and converse with those that would like to respond to your posts.
May you have a great day...

In Christ

 

[SeekHisFace]

Actually I was looking for a different thread but started by the same person...the above post was for this thread, [but maybe it would be sufficient here(??)]

http://www.christianforums.net/showthread.php?t=31101&page=30

 

[savedbygrace57]

The Principle of Election to Salvation !

Rom 9:11

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

This scripture sets forth unto us the Divine Regulation of Election to Salvation, for the Election Purpose here is the same as it is set forth here Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

And here Eph 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Yes, this passage is about Election, faith here is the Faith of God's Elect Titus 1:1

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

And the point is this, That Salvation by Grace or Election [the same] in it God has no regard to any work, performance of a condition or requirement, our will or desire, which is summed up in Rom 9:11,16

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

The word done in Vs 11 "neither having done any good or evil"

This is the greek word prassō:


to exercise, practise, to be busy with, carry on

a) to undertake, to do

2) to accomplish, perform

a) to commit, perpetrate

3) to manage public affairs, transact public business

a) to exact tribute, revenue, debts

4) to act

It also means require as in Lk 19:23

23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

So Salvation by Grace or Election does not come from one doing something required by God, like believing or repenting or etc !

Salvation is not based upon the so called freewill of man, for if that was ever the case it reverts into Salvation by works Rom 11:6,5

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Election of Grace or Salvation by Grace through Faith is only possible if we are part of a Chosen remnant, out of all mankind, Vs 5

Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

This is another foundational principle, Election of Grace, Salvation by Grace only is about a remnant, its never about saving all without exception, but only all the remnant without exception !

We take away this Element of remnant, we undermine Salvation by Grace !

That part denotes a remaining, and a small part as in Isa 1:9

9 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

Thats Salvation by Grace and Election by Grace, the Lord reserving some for Himself ! See Rom 11:4

This is the only Salvation the bible teaches and its the only one that Christ represents in His Death, so He says Jn 14:6

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And His Way is by being Chosen in Him before the foundation Eph 1:4 !

Salvation no other way Acts 4:12

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

No other way of Salvation than by being of the Election of Grace in Christ Jesus !

Its not the popular but very narrow way Matt 7:14

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

That few is a remnant that God reserved for Himself !80

 

[Elijah674]

The Principle of Election to Salvation !

Rom 9:11

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

This scripture sets forth unto us the Divine Regulation of Election to Salvation, for the Election Purpose here is the same as it is set forth here Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

And here Eph 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Yes, this passage is about Election, faith here is the Faith of God's Elect Titus 1:1

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

And the point is this, That Salvation by Grace or Election [the same] in it God has no regard to any work, performance of a condition or requirement, our will or desire, which is summed up in Rom 9:11,16

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

The word done in Vs 11 "neither having done any good or evil"

This is the greek word prassō:


to exercise, practise, to be busy with, carry on

a) to undertake, to do

2) to accomplish, perform

a) to commit, perpetrate

3) to manage public affairs, transact public business

a) to exact tribute, revenue, debts

4) to act

It also means require as in Lk 19:23

23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

So Salvation by Grace or Election does not come from one doing something required by God, like believing or repenting or etc !

Salvation is not based upon the so called freewill of man, for if that was ever the case it reverts into Salvation by works Rom 11:6,5

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Election of Grace or Salvation by Grace through Faith is only possible if we are part of a Chosen remnant, out of all mankind, Vs 5

Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

This is another foundational principle, Election of Grace, Salvation by Grace only is about a remnant, its never about saving all without exception, but only all the remnant without exception !

We take away this Element of remnant, we undermine Salvation by Grace !

That part denotes a remaining, and a small part as in Isa 1:9

9 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

Thats Salvation by Grace and Election by Grace, the Lord reserving some for Himself ! See Rom 11:4

This is the only Salvation the bible teaches and its the only one that Christ represents in His Death, so He says Jn 14:6

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And His Way is by being Chosen in Him before the foundation Eph 1:4 !

Salvation no other way Acts 4:12

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

No other way of Salvation than by being of the Election of Grace in Christ Jesus !

Its not the popular but very narrow way Matt 7:14

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

That few is a remnant that God reserved for Himself !80

True, but NO ONE KNOWS WHO IS THE REMNANT BUT GOD!
Heb. 11:1-2 & verse 11! This is why it is call FAITH!

--Elijah