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It’s not biblical!

1 Cor. 5:9-13;
" I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves."
 
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JackrabbitSlim said:
1 Cor. 5:9-13;
" I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves."
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I gotta be honest with you. After learning more about what Catholics actually believe I kind of have to agree with you. I'm surprised we Protestants have been kindly existing with them all this time.

That's nothing against Catholics personally. Just Catholicism itself and the safe distance we must keep from it.
 
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Jethro Bodine said:
I gotta be honest with you. After learning more about what Catholics actually believe I kind of have to agree with you. I'm surprised we Protestants have been kindly existing with them all this time.

That's nothing against Catholics personally. Just Catholicism itself and the safe distance we must keep from it.
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Yes, it's not so much Catholics, but, Catholicism. Sometimes though, it's a Catholic. Also, considering the Roman Catholic Church's role during the Tribulation-Rev. 17-it's best to not associate with them.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
I gotta be honest with you. After learning more about what Catholics actually believe I kind of have to agree with you. I'm surprised we Protestants have been kindly existing with them all this time.

That's nothing against Catholics personally. Just Catholicism itself and the safe distance we must keep from it.
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How did you learn what Catholics actually believe?
Why do you think we can't exist together?
I find many more problems with the Word of Faith movement and the Grace Only movement.
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
Yes, it's not so much Catholics, but, Catholicism. Sometimes though, it's a Catholic. Also, considering the Roman Catholic Church's role during the Tribulation-Rev. 17-it's best to not associate with them.
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Who do you think the great harlot is?
Pope Francis or Rome?
That's pretty funny, BTW.
I doubt Rome will have anything to do with anything.
Italians, nor the rest of the world, don't have much to do with Rome or what it believes.

And speaking of Catholics,
I find on these forums that many of us don't act like we Christianly should...
In my experience I find that very few are Christian in nature and mostly I trust monks.
They're sincere and honest.
Maybe that's why we're not supposed to be a part of the world - it has too much affect on us.
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
That's really sad.
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Why is it sad?

It's pitiful to watch some pastor try to exorcise a smoking demon from some poor woman writing around on the floor.
No dignity in that.
And no such thing.

And to think that possession really happens and exorcists really do have to attend to some person regarding this.
It's no joke.

Who is God?
SANTA CLAUSE?

That's what the Word of Faith makes Him out to be.
He's here to serve US, NOT the other way around.

Nice to hear I don't have enough faith - like those other lucky ones that get healed do -
and that's why God won't answer my prayer.

Nice to go around with a fever but still claim I'm healed.

Oh. Yes. That's what Jesus came here for.
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
That's really sad.
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Isn't the OP supposed to be tongue in cheek?
I mean, how can we be sure who is right and who isn't?

Some doctrine is insignificant and doesn't really matter what a person believes,
but some are very important and we can't seem to agree on one true doctrine.
We just all believe we're right.
 
wondering said:
Isn't the OP supposed to be tongue in cheek?
I mean, how can we be sure who is right and who isn't?
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Scripture. This isn't a matter of interpretation, but of, representation. When you have a system that teaches in direct conflict with what the word of God says, when, we can look in God's word on how to deal with such a system, and, people, after having been shown the evilness of that pagan system they still defend it, the Bible is clear on who to deal with such people. As I've said, this isn't a matter of interpretation.
 
wondering said:
Why is it sad?

It's pitiful to watch some pastor try to exorcise a smoking demon from some poor woman writing around on the floor.
No dignity in that.
And no such thing.

And to think that possession really happens and exorcists really do have to attend to some person regarding this.
It's no joke.

Who is God?
SANTA CLAUSE?

That's what the Word of Faith makes Him out to be.
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Notice, I didn't quote you on the Word of Faith comment?
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
Scripture. This isn't a matter of interpretation, but of, representation. When you have a system that teaches in direct conflict with what the word of God says, when, we can look in God's word on how to deal with such a system, and, people, after having been shown the evilness of that pagan system they still defend it, the Bible is clear on who to deal with such people. As I've said, this isn't a matter of interpretation.
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I asked you who is right and who wrong and how to know.
You replied...
SCRIPTURE.

OK, so who's right?
OSAS
UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION/PREDESTINATION
FREE WILL
REAL PRESENCE
CONFESSION
GOOD DEEDS NECESSARY

or the opposite...

HOW do we determine??
Both sides are using scripture.

And, really, I'd like to know what the CC teaches that is in direct conflict with scripture.
Doesn't every denomination do some of this?
 
wondering said:
I asked you who is right and who wrong and how to know.
You replied...
SCRIPTURE.

OK, so who's right?
OSAS
UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION/PREDESTINATION
FREE WILL
REAL PRESENCE
CONFESSION
GOOD DEEDS NECESSARY

or the opposite...

HOW do we determine??
Both sides are using scripture.

And, really, I'd like to know what the CC teaches that is in direct conflict with scripture.
Doesn't every denomination do some of this?
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Something you said caught my attention...
"What the CC teaches that is in direct conflict with scripture"... Infallibility of the Pope, would be my guess.
Does not the Bible(OT+NT) teach that all mankind is sinful and the heart is wicked... So an infallible man would be in conflict. Or the inverse idea that the Pope is in some way a transcendent being(no longer a fallible man).
That is my sticking point with CC and I think it is shared by many.
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
Not Catholicism. Just as I've told you when your sent me private messages, "Dude, I'm not going to argue with you.
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In post 187 you said the following:

1 Cor. 5:9-13;
" I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves."
Donadams shouldn't be here, nor should anyone be addressing him. My final thoughts on the matter.


I PMd you because you were saying that someone shouldn't be here and I wanted to know who you meant.
I didn't see the last line where you actually mention the other member you do not want addressed.

In the PM I said that everyone has the right to be here, just like you do.
We don't know who is or is not immoral on these forums.

We got into a little theology and I asked you to write on the open thread so everyone could join, at which point you said you did not want to argue.

I don't argue, I discuss.
But if you don't care to discuss, that's fine with me.

But then why bring up a member that shouldn't be here,
OR a denomination you apparently hate but are unwilling to state exactly why?

Our discussion is thus closed...
I like to be honest and transparent.
If you don't care to discuss the CC, please don't bring up the topic.
 
The Harlot (Rev. 17:1-18).
The great harlot (πόρνη pornē #4204) who sits on many waters. She has a seductive influence upon kings and inhabitants of the earth.
In the OT, Israel was warned against playing the harlot (Ex. 34:15-16), but they did so nonetheless (Num. 25:1; Jer. 2:20; Ezek. 16:15ff.; 23:3ff.).
Spiritual harlotry is defined as spiritual adultery against God. The Great Harlot & Mother of Harlots, then, is the religious system that has spawned the most widespread anti-God religious systems in the OT, NT, and modern times.
This Harlot is named: “Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and of the Abominations of the Earth” (Rev. 17:5).
The golden cup of Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylon (Jer. 51:6) continues to be present in the mystery Babylon (Rev. 17:4).
Although the political influence of Babylon ceased with the Persian victory of Cyrus, the religious system of Babylon survived—escaping to Pergamos (Pergamum, Rev. 2:13) and ultimately Rome.
When Babel was founded (Gen. 10:10), the only Divine promise of redemption focused on the Seed of the Woman. False Satanic religions, then, were centered on mother goddesses and their baby sons.
Babel’s religion of mother goddess worship (Queen of Heaven) transcends nations & empires, and has endured through the centuries under many names.
The Queen of Heaven and her divine son were manifested under different names:
Ishtar & Tamuz to the ancient Babylonians.
Isis & Osiris to the Egyptians.
Aphrodite and Adonis to the Greeks.
Cybele & Attis in Asia Minor.
Ceres and Jupiter to pagan Rome.
The names of Mary and Jesus were taken when Christian labels were needed to give public legitimacy to their religion, from the Emperor Constantine onward.
The Queen of Heaven religion has made its home in the Roman Catholic Church since Bishop Damasus assumed the Babylonian title of Supreme Pontiff in 378AD.
* Clarence Larkin, Dispensational Truth, p.148. Another, more thorough treatment of the Roman church as the modern expression of Babylon is Alexander Hislop, The Two Babylons.
The Caesars held the supreme pontiff title since Julius Caesar became the high priest (pontifex) of the Etruscan Order (74BC), and became Pontifex Maximus (63BC). It is fascinating to note that Damasus took the title when the Roman emperor Gratian refused it for Christian reasons.
 
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