Huh? I never said anything about a jot or tittle disappearing. Where did you get that from?
Post #406:
"We cannot pick and choose or change one jot or tittle of the Law of Moses which scripture calls the old covenant."
I said that Jesus did not destroy the law.
I said that we cannot destroy the law by tearing it apart into segments. The ceremonial laws are just one part of the whole covenant.
Jesus changed the 'jots and tittles' of the law concerning temple, priesthood, and sacrifice, but he did not change the law concerning 'love your neighbor as yourself'. So, that negates your claim.
How does one not keep a law and fulfill a law?
Let's use some law that you or I can actually do? Not something only Jesus could do.
Okay, good. You're asking the right question.
The Feast of UnLeavened Bread is a perfect example. The law requires that you cleanse your house of all leaven after you have observed the Passover. We don't do that in this New Covenant, because we don't HAVE to do that in this New Covenant. Why don't we have to, anymore? Because we fulfill that requirement when we cleanse the household of our bodies, the church, of the leaven of sin.
See? We don't keep the law of the Feast of UnLeavened Bread, yet it is fulfilled when we purge the household of believers of the leaven of sin.
Please address this thought that was in my last post.
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"What I see is that the old and temporary 'way' to fulfill God's eternal law was the Law of Moses at that time.
The new and eternal 'way' to fulfill God's eternal law is to abide in Christ."
This is exactly what I've been saying. The WAY we fulfill the righteousness of the law of Moses has changed, not the righteous requirements of the law of Moses themselves. The new WAY to fulfill the righteousness of the law of Moses is through faith in Christ and the Spirit of God. The problem is people refuse to accept that Paul said this new WAY--the way of faith--does in fact uphold the law of Moses. We've all been trained by centuries of erroneous indoctrination that we can't say that. Even though Paul plainly says it in our Bibles.
Do you not see that the law of God to 'love your neighbor as yourself" was in effect from the very beginning of the world. It did not start with the Law of Moses.
(You may have to refresh your memory of what you are addressing here in post #416 to make sense of my response)
Do you think Passover, Sabbath keeping, circumcision, and animal sacrifice for sin started with the law of Moses? The point being, we most certainly can, and must, distinguish between ceremonial and moral law. Otherwise we all have to keep these laws, too, because they were before the law of Moses, just as 'love your neighbor as yourself' was before the law and why we have to keep it.
Why would my faith in Jesus fulfill a marriage contract I was never in with God? God didn't make a marriage contract with me or you at Mt. Sinai. That marriage contract was made between God and the children of Israel.
Remember that Paul even uses this analogy in Romans. The husband that is dead is the old covenant, and wife is then free to marry another. She becomes the bride of Christ and is brought through faith in Him, into the new covenant.
The premise for your argument, "why would my faith in Jesus fulfill a marriage contract I was never in with God?", is false, therefore, your argument is false. That premise being "the husband that is dead
is the old covenant" and that you say you were called to a marriage with Christ, the New Covenant,
not the old husband the old covenant.
In Romans 7:1-6, Paul is not saying the old covenant is the old husband. He is saying sinful flesh is the old husband. Sin is the old husband who used to have authority over us. And he's saying the law acted like a marriage license that kept us bound to sinful flesh, enforcing the authority and power of sin to keep you 'married' to him and doing what he wants you to do (that is, of course, sin).
But in salvation that marriage partner, sinful flesh, dies. And the power of the law to keep you bound like a marriage contract in marital (un)bliss to sin no longer has the authority to enforce a relationship that has ended. It ended because when a death has occurred in a marriage the marriage ends and the person still alive is no longer married and is free to remarry. In this case, the widow who used to be maritally bound to sinful flesh is now free to marry Jesus Christ. And in this relationship the thing that acts as the marriage license to enforce husband Jesus' authority over you, to make you do what he wants, is the Holy Spirit.
I learned this from our Messianic brothers: We in the church have been taught (indoctrinated) that the bad guy in Romans is the law. But the bad guy is actually sinful flesh--sinful flesh that cannot, and will not submit to the righteous requirements of the law of Moses. The way of the law is only the bad guy in that it is not an effective way to deal with sinful flesh. In and of itself it is holy, just and good.
So the problem is fallen flesh. The remedy is not the way of the written code, but that does not make the law of Moses itself the bad guy--lacking glory, relatively speaking, but not bad. Holy and righteous good guy, 'law' (the way of law) is set aside in favor of a way that does work with fallen flesh--the way of the Spirit and faith in Jesus Christ. The new way 'faith' does not change what good guy--but old way--'law' tried to do. Faith just does it in a different way. A way that actually works. A way that is by comparison to good, but old guy law infinitely more glorious.
I don't understand what you are saying in what I made blue.
Jethro: "Again, I point you to the laws governing sacrifice for sin. Faith does not get rid of those. Those requirements are forever and eternal, froward and backward in all of time and space."
The point being, people dismiss the law of Moses on the basis that it was temporary (and only for the Jews). But the requirement for animal sacrifice for sin is before the law of Moses, too, but has been 'dismissed'.