ezra
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Merry christmas i am sending you a great big twist tie so you can keep twisting post to fit your belief.please study out these three words IT IS FINISHEDIf Salvation is unconditional then doesn't that mean there is no condition for man to be saved.
Why would Jesus say we need to repent and believe the Gospel if there was no condition to be saved.
Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15
Why would Paul teach us we must believe in our heart and confess with our mouth Jesus as Lord, to be saved if there is no condition to be saved.
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:9-10
- with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Paul said with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation!
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:13
Why would the Lord need to send people to preach the Gospel so a people can hear and believe and confess with their mouth the Lord Jesus if there is no condition to be saved?
14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:
“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,
Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” Romans 10:14-16
But they have not all obeyed the gospel.
If the condition to obey the Gospel is not required then why did Paul write in the scriptures?
Why do men have to suffer and be martyred, to bring the Gospel to the lost if there is no condition to be saved?
JLB
"It is finished" is the translation of the Greek term "tetelestai."
It is the perfect indicative mood of the Greek verb "teleō," which means "to bring to an end" or "to complete.
Christ paid the price Christ took the stripes on his back Christ took the crown of thorns on his head Christ took the mocking the nail the pain .. what conditions did you go through to be saved? you didn't.... you simply received the free Gift might i ask where is the word condition found in the Bible since were being technical paul also wrote
Titus 2:11-14King James Version (KJV)
11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might ' redeem us from all iniquity,' and {purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.} wow it is finished done complete the very moment we get saved the Blood cleans us takes our sins and cast them into the sea of forgetfulness .how deep is that sea as far as from the east to the west
we are saved By grace 1st the unmerited favor if conditions to be saved other than a true sincere heart was in place it would no longer be Grace . BUT LEGALISM " denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" follows salvation not preconditions . you put the cart before the horse ..the night i got saved i had just got off a two year probation with the federal court .for growing on a fed land 30 plants ..i tried the preconditions of salvation your presenting . i couldn't do it..because it was of me not of the Holy Spirit .. one thing i have noticed you never replied to your mocking of Eternal security osas , to be honest i found it in bad taste . even though i do not preach osas .i preach a know so salvation
i do hope you understand because i really have no desire to keep showing you salvation for us to be saved is unconditional IT IS FINISHED paid in full the free gift . we had 4 kids here yesterday .they opened gifts guess what there was no condition to these Gifts .they was given out of Love .
that is much what Christ did for us on the cross the free Gift of salvation ..that should be enough to make a old boy like you shout .