Awesome. I do like the Post trib view (Jesus only coming once for his folks AFTER tribulation) way more than some crazy stuff going around today. It mimics the Pre Trib View except for some timing issues.
As you said, you found 1st and 2nd events of Jesus coming. Once for the church, once to judge the World after the 7th seal and 7th angelic trumpet.
There are many, many, many reasons why you and I won't be here while God pours out his wrath on the rest of the World that rejected the gospel.
I'll list just one here. I don't want to get it into a long confusing mess.
Reason 1 out of many...................Creatures!!! OH MY.
During the time of the end, God uses an angel to appoint 144,000 to be sent out of Jewish folks.
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
(Rev 7:3-4)
One was given the seal of God and the others were given to Hurt the sea and the Earth. The command was not to touch anything until all the 144,000 were sealed on their foreheads. After that, I guess they could go and trash the place.
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
(Rev 7:1-2)
Now, If we are still here at this time, why would God not be concerned about the angels destroying stuff until His Body (Church) Was out of the way? We are told to love our spouse as Christ loves the Church and gave himself for it. The Most important thing and mission right now of the Lord is His body, His precious Church.
One would think if we were here, we would at least be mentioned........ Some think God should have said.......
GOD: "OH, and yea, almost forgot my Son's Church.. ya... Ummm. Go mark the 144,000, then give me a moment to figure out what I am going to do with that other 3.2 billion standing in the way."
During the tribulation the seals and trumpets are sounding together. The seals don't do much but set the environment for the Trumpets and vials. The trumpets are a destructive force from God, but the vials are much worse, destroying most of mankind.
5th Angelic Trumpet:
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
(Rev 9:1-6)
The fifth angel blows His trumpet. (Notice the scripture numbers angels, not the trumpets, Hence we don't number them at all concerning what Paul said about some last trump which is not one of these angelic trumpets) God calls his church up personally to meet the Lord in the air.
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
(Rev 4:1)
COMPARE:
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(1Th 4:16)
Back to creatures:
The 5th Angel blows the trumpet and a pit is opened with smoke. It is just like it says, nothing modern to compare. These locust with stingers come out of this pit that smokes so much it darkens the sun. These creatures are to torment everyone "WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE SEAL OF GOD ON THEIR FOREHEADS."
We have the seal of the Holy Spirit, and not on our foreheads. The 144,000 had the seal on their foreheads and the only ones protected from these creatures. Nobody else is protected unless they were sealed on the forehead with the 144,000
Unless God lied and we have to suffer His wrath, we are not here.
God don't lie though...
1 reason out of many there is a pre-Trib rapture.
Hope I kept it simple enough.
Blessings.
I think we are going to see a few things happen before like NOW more fighting who knows.
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which
I heard was as it were of a trumpettalking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.(After what?)
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Rev 4:1) When he told him to come up here I believe thats when the rapture takes place and because after that there are praises and singing and so on . no church mentioned after that.
(Jesus told us to watch for the signs not for the antichrist. I think we will be gone.)
compared
(1Th 4:16)
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (Only the dead in Christ then the live in Christ not the others just yet. (not till the end)
The imminent appearing is still a good stand. Everything else is numbered 31/2 and 3 1/2 years and in days.
This is the Trump of God not of Angels.
When Jesus starts opening the seals the man on the white horse is the antichrist with a bow, the bow is like the one that God put in the clouds after the flood, as covenant bow saying he would not flood the earth again. according to Strongs.
And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sate on him had a bow, and a crown was given unto him, and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. (The crown he has is different than the ones Jesus wears)
Jesus is the 5th horseman YEY!!!
Daniels prophecy
numbered 31/2 and 3 1/2 years and in days
and when the man of sin enforces a covenant for 7 years and breaks it in the middle(2nd half). 70th week one week of years
People will know who he is when he does this.
I think we will be up up and way just before he is revealed,
9v27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease(2 half), and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make
it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
2nd half
2 Thess 2 v4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Then run when you see this abomination standing in the Holy Place. (The Temple)
He will set himself up as God
Thess 2
Jesus can separate events like when Jesus read Isaiah. he didn't finish, and the day of vengeance
Luke 4 18The Spirit of the Lord
is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, ?
19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20And he closed the book,
Isaiah The Spirit of the Lord GOD
is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to
them that are bound;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,
and the day of vengeance of our God;(?) to comfort all that mourn;
He didn't finish the scripture why not? It has not happened yet.
Attempting to explain a view is hard so this was what I can remember but not all of it.
He said we will be saved from
the time of the tribulation not in the tribulation and when we see these signs
beginning to come to pass then look up. I believe many will be saved after it happens too. Tribulation saints and Israel 144,000 will be the remnant sealed.
Im trying.
You have to admit its a view.
As far as timing I have that nailed down in my life.
Either way I know I will see him in my lifetime because I will either die or get raptured Now THAT is a for sure.. So either way it will be in my life time.
I DO NOT WANT to see those ugly creatures either NO NOT! UCK!
Does this make sense to you?
